Stuff you hate to see at Car shows

[Burd]

This topic is rather taboo, but we all hate to see certain things at shows. Here’s a few,

Historical Lic plates on kit cars
Plastic wire loom coveres that match something on the car
Signed parts
Stuffed animals
Jap cars with samari swords, or ninja crap.
AC all removed, except on the firewall.

What’s one that just makes you shake your head

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/qvTYmLrx/screenshot-7715.png (https://postimages.org/)

[markinnaples]

Those weird little kid dolls that face the car with their heads down or whatever. What started that weirdness? Those are just strange to me.

[Burd]

I’ve seen cars parked on top of them.

[Lee Stewart]

Those weird little kid dolls that face the car with their heads down or whatever. What started that weirdness? Those are just strange to me.

https://i.postimg.cc/WzZW8Dfy/untitled.png (https://postimages.org/)

[m22mike]

How about 1969 Z28's with the grill Z28 badge mounted in the wrong position :frown: I say about 60% are that way.


The last 2 I believe are correct, RS and standard are in the same spot.

[Burd]

A doll on a cooler. Double.

One show, I can’t find the pic, a Ricer had a Ninja sword and a old WW2 jap Flag in his car. I was hoping a Vet would come by and kick the guy in the balls.

Models on the Aircleaner, I saw a guy slam his hood on a model of his car on a small turntable, flattened it rite out

[bbbentley]

Skeleton dog peeing on tire

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/Z50W9rB4/82-p3-l.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

1967 to 1969 Firebird 400 with a Camaro rear spoiler.

[bbbentley]

Braided hose coverings that slide onto existing hose with plastic chrome clamp covers
Chrome lid on cowl air cleaner on 1st gen

[Lee Stewart]

Skeleton dog peeing on tire

https://i.postimg.cc/RVxrJ9WF/funny-dog-dorota-nowak.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

LOL - Not quite the same but funny anyways.

[SuperNovaSS]

Guys who pick apart or talk trash about a person's pride and joy right in front of them......



Jason

[bbbentley]

Cars with identity crises like hitting all the details of a factory build, like stripes, decals etc..., but having tubbed, full roll cage and goofy hood.
20” wheels on a 60-70s muscle type bodied car
You got me going now

[bbbentley]

69 Camaro with wrong grille color and or unpainted surround

[67 Nova Boy]

What got me was a young kid leaned his bike against my quarter panel as he had no kickstand...dad was right there and said nothing. Left the show kinda mad.

Dave
67 Nova Boy

[Tracker1]

As always, Torque Thrust IIs . Blech.

[m22mike]

Orange heater hose's, my Malibu when I first got it :frown:
No picture, but those little round chrome push on bolt head covers....YUK
And any convoluted tubing under the hood, double vomit for colors other than black

[L_e_e]

When they have an replica model of their car sitting on the air cleaner or elsewhere in the car.
The GTO tiger tail sticking out of the trunk....ugh

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/3JkBhD80/5tg.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

1969 Mach 1s with front & rear spoilers and rear window louvers. None were options. If they wanted the Boss 302 look they should have bought one instead.

[StealthBird]

For Pontiac guys, it's the Buick style air cleaner decal on a totally restored engine bay.

[StealthBird]

Butt end too high on a restored car with stock wheels, or the entire car having a 4WD look.

[Burd]

Binders showing nut and bolt resto laying all over the radiator

A bud saw this, a guy putting pillow stuffing by back tires showing a burnout

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/Ls9NZ4Kz/666.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

1967/1968 Shelby GT Mustangs with the wrong rear valance and tips. Those are 1967 first design tips with a second design rear valance. Midyear during 1967 production Ford changed from the single round tip and associated rear valance to the quad tips used on the Mustang GT in an effort to save money. Then all 1968 Shelby GT Mustangs used the second design.

https://i.postimg.cc/QtBgpH6W/shelby-gt500-3.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

This is the first design tips and rear valance

https://i.postimg.cc/NMT9sTJb/tgb.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

This is the second design tips and rear valance

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/9QhjK9ZC/ebay721563.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/d1LMrjPm/fl0112-120037-1-2x.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Misaligned side stripes on 1968 442s

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/7P2d46x6/ebay646141.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Why can't restorers place the engine callout emblems in the correct place on 1968 Camaro Super Sports?

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/j5V64RBg/bbbb.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

https://i.postimg.cc/vTbWC3Y5/cccc.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

1971 Hemi Challenger R/Ts with not only the 1970 R/T fender emblem either crooked or in the wrong place.

[L78M22Rag]

I thought this might be a short thread, but the more I think about it, the more I'm getting worked up about my pet peeves...

#1 Z28 hood and deck stripes on a first generation Camaro SS, or a 1968 or 69 Chevelle!
#2 a spoiler on the deck of a rear antenna first generation Camaro
#3 stripes with the wrong dimensions... especially a front nose stripe on a 1967-68 Camaro
#4 big clown-shoe wheels on an otherwise correct looking vintage musclecar.
#5 Z/28 and SS emblems on the same car... really?

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/rmmBLCfR/rds.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

1969 Z/28 with Super Sport front grille

[70 copo]

Guys who beautifully over restore a car and then are no place to be found when the guys who built the car at the factory actually show up to look at the restoration in person.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/RZTtkc6B/1969-chevrolet-camaro-z28.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

1968/1969 Z/28 with 1967 center caps. I know some of you like this look. I don't.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/x8hrTJXj/5tgff.jpg (https://postimg.cc/30Xftwjz)

Not painting the master cylinder semi-gloss black on GM cars

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/T25FxcVg/dodge-challenger-r-t-440-six-pack-887.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/C1CXprgN/5tfds.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

OK Mopar fans . . . which upper valance (below trunk lid and above taillights} is correct?

[wheelhop]

Model year 2000 and up Corvettes and Mustangs hogging all the parking spots for older cars. Yeah they are nice cars but I want to see classic cars!

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/SRHgXHcC/maxresdefault.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[wheelhop]

https://i.postimg.cc/x8hrTJXj/5tgff.jpg (https://postimg.cc/30Xftwjz)

Not painting the master cylinder semi-gloss black on GM cars

It is considered correct either "cast" color or black as some say they came bare.

[X66 714]

2nd gen Camaros with rally wheels.
Of the 200k Camaros with ducted hood, seal is on incorrectly.

...Joe

[Lee Stewart]

It is considered correct either "cast" color or black as some say they came bare.

According to Delco Moraine paperwork, part of the assembly procedure for master cylinders is to paint them semi-gloss black. I think it's either the 7th step or the 17th step (can't remember) in the assembly. I once posted the sheet which showed it. It's over somewhere in my You Can't Make This Stuff Up! thread. Probably within the first 100 pages. It's orangish yellow so if you want to find it you can scan quickly. I believe (?) it started with the 1967 models when they changed to the dual master cylinder.

[danachevroletfor1967]

You guys have mostly covered very well some of what I hate to see at car shows, but I can add what I most hate to hear: modern or current music whether it is piped in or live where 98% of the cars are from the 50's, 60's, and '70's. I want to hear music from the eras the cars are from.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/yYzQHCYC/5rf.jpg (https://postimg.cc/K4JrPVM0)

The same goes for Mopar master cylinders; those with the bail over the cover. Supposed to be painted gloss black as seen below:

https://i.postimg.cc/8PHHgF0L/dodge-challenger-22.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

https://i.postimg.cc/zBKCt3hb/5tgbn.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

Chrysler used two different master cylinders depending on which brakes you ordered. If it's "bolt" style like this one - no paint.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/QCB3ZGXT/56777.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

[Burd]

Ever see 421 emblems on the wrong sides, Royal Lic Plate frames to wanna bee’s, I ask, your car from Royal, no the idiot says.
8 lug wheels, now everyone puts them on, and 8” Snowflake wheels, where the hell are they all coming from.

[olredalert]

----64 Grand Prix's with external 421 emblems. That the one 64 Pontiac body style didn't get those emblems. Also,,, Those factory sized chrome GM style air cleaner lids that don't have the double rolled edge. Can't take those!...….Bill S

[Lee Stewart]

Ever see 421 emblems on the wrong sides, Royal Lic Plate frames to wanna bee’s, I ask, your car from Royal, no the idiot says.
8 lug wheels, now everyone puts them on, and 8” Snowflake wheels, where the hell are they all coming from.

The very first time I went to Vegas back in 87 I stayed at the Frontier for a sales conference. Stuck my head out of my room window (was on the 7th floor) and looked down The Strip. The first thought that popped into my mind was . . . I want to be the GE Lightbulb salesman for this territory.

Now I want to be the chrome magnum 500 wheel salesman!

[Mr70]

Regardless where or when assembled,1970 Chevelles with incorrect 1969 master cylinders.

hence...

[QUOTE=Lee Stewart;1488881]https://i.postimg.cc/x8hrTJXj/5tgff.jpg (https://postimg.cc/30Xftwjz)

[StealthBird]

All GM master cylinders were painted black, they were not bare metal. That's a common restoration mistake.

[StealthBird]

Ever see 421 emblems on the wrong sides, Royal Lic Plate frames to wanna bee’s, I ask, your car from Royal, no the idiot says.
8 lug wheels, now everyone puts them on, and 8” Snowflake wheels, where the hell are they all coming from.

Blame the restoration companies!

[copo69]

The “Caution Fan” Ford sticker on Chevys.

[L78M22Rag]

Oh, and cowl induction hoods on 1967-68 Camaros and pre-1970 Chevelles.

[X66 714]

Spoilers on 67 Camaros...Joe

[Burd]

Blame the restoration companies!


My buddy did them wrong. LMAO. He also had Royal stuff on a Portland car lmao. I rode his ass all the time. It was Mickey Lolich’s 62 GP. Maybe someone here knows the car. It went to a Roush guy I heard.

[X66 714]

Skunk stripes on the wrong Camaros...Joe

[camarojoe]

BFG's.

[HuggerSS]

69 SS stripes with the leading edge pinstripe going all the way to the fender extension instead of stopping at the bumper.

[R68GTO]

People that enter their non-collectible / non-performance car in the show with a for sale sign in the window.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/0jvRBttY/sc0516-243171-3-2x.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

1970 Super Sport Chevelles with the wrong color stripes. Black Cherry, Fathom Blue and Forest Green only came with white stripes. You wanted black - you had to order it that way.

[Burd]

New cars, with all the factory paperwork in frames.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/YChVbKrc/plymouth-cuda-440-26.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

1970 'Cuda with white Sport Tape Stripes. They only came in black. And also on this 440+6 'Cuda are F60x15 RWL tires - not available on the 'Cuda or the Challenger R/T. Only E60x15 RWL. The F's came standard on the Hemi as the Hemi cars had the special front fenders to accommodate the wider F series tires.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/D0xjP5Ry/screenshot-7720.png (https://postimages.org/)

"Small Penis Syndrome" . . . when you ordered the 440+6 engine and the ram air on your 1970 Super Bee or Coronet R/T the engine callout emblems on the scoops were just "440."

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/yY5n6JH5/Chevelle-SS.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/G2cxgGFB/nmk.jpg (https://postimg.cc/gwThnwBd)

[duskblue]

Bands playing music

[Burd]

#1. Big speakers at shows. I really hate that.

[Burd]

https://i.postimg.cc/G2cxgGFB/nmk.jpg (https://postimg.cc/gwThnwBd)

I’m hating the sign, but, What am I hating on the Gold SS?

[wheelhop]

lower rocker moldings, I'm thinking.

[wheelhop]

Being a 69 Chevelle guy I hate to see the "70" band-aid stripes on any car born earlier than 1970.

[Tommy]

I hate it when i miss the car show. I also hate it when I miss the swap meet that was at the car show.

Tommy

[wheelhop]

I hate it when you are right

[m22mike]

https://i.postimg.cc/yY5n6JH5/Chevelle-SS.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

Nice Malibu. :naughty:

[cook_dw]

How about 1969 Z28's with the grill Z28 badge mounted in the wrong position :frown: I say about 60% are that way.


The last 2 I believe are correct, RS and standard are in the same spot.



I find it funny that you pull a photo I shared on CRG of a friends car that he bought in the fall of 69 with a period photo of the car with the emblem placement and a current photo of where the emblem is today but yet you are all for how they left the factory.. And yes I am taking a little personal as I give validation to an oddity not once but twice in the thread but you chose to “crop” my photo and use it in this thread as things that aren’t correct or things that bother someone at a car show. :rolleyes2:


For those that might want to read up on the thread.


http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=12367.0;all

[Burd]

I’m hating the Monroe swap is prob going to be cancelled because of this beer virus.

[Burd]

This tread is just a silly thread that we are doing, just sitting around home because of the beer virus. It’s not meant to ruffle any feathers. Everyone has walk around at a car show and just shook your head at some car.

[Lee Stewart]

I thought this might be a short thread, but the more I think about it, the more I'm getting worked up about my pet peeves...

#1 Z28 hood and deck stripes on a first generation Camaro SS, or a 1968 or 69 Chevelle!
#2 a spoiler on the deck of a rear antenna first generation Camaro
#3 stripes with the wrong dimensions... especially a front nose stripe on a 1967-68 Camaro
#4 big clown-shoe wheels on an otherwise correct looking vintage musclecar.
#5 Z/28 and SS emblems on the same car... really?

https://s26.postimg.CC/qryhnoft5/image.jpg (https://postimg.CC/image/mvl5routh/)

https://s26.postimg.CC/nl3y48xzt/screenshot_6219.png (https://postimages.CC/)

[Burd]

Hers one of mine, putting new cars in a show. Don’t get pissed, vette, camaro, Mopar guys. You see them every day. Just saying.

One year at Dream Cruise, I wanted to put my TA next to my Buddy’s 62 GP. My car was 24 years old. Birmingham said no. I asked about all the new Fauxbras that gather at the 555 building, the guy says their 60’s cars. I said really, look at their title, other than one, which has a NOT FAKE Lic plate on, the rest was built in someone’s garage. They threw the whole clan out. I think their back again. Me, I’m not into fake cars.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/tJhXJ5tB/SJM-L-CARSHOW-0723-10.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/sxcgKmQv/7yhn.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[BJCHEV396]

Watch on the fender!!*

[Z15 SS 454]

https://i.postimg.cc/tJhXJ5tB/SJM-L-CARSHOW-0723-10.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

Look at all da tings I dun blowed upppp

[SS427]

Not painting the master cylinder semi-gloss black on GM cars

I have been documenting 1970 Chevelles for 40 years (mostly the LS6) and have found numerous survivors with no evidence of paint what so ever. That being said I have found numerous survivors that DID have semi gloss black on them. Same goes for the calipers. I typically restore all of our cars (assuming they were survivors when we received them) as I find them. If I find no evidence of paint then that is how I restore them. However, I do not paint them cast iron either.

My thoughts have always been that many likely started out with enough paint on them to keep them from flash rusting during the shipping and assembly period and them not worrying about them rusting once they were delivered to the dealer. Therefor, just enough paint to satisfy the manufacturer.

I also treat them somewhat the same as exhaust manifolds. Most of us know that they were painted on the engine on a big block but most of the orange burned off shortly after starting them so many of us who chose to paint the orange on them paint them in a way to simulate the after effects of them when it has burned off. Could these master cylinders not be restored the same way? To replicate what they looked like by the time they arrive at the dealer? I now restore mine with just a misting of black paint on them to simulate what they may have looked like during the assembly line process.

It also could boil down to a plant destination thing. It is a well known fact that many Chevelles had NO paint on any of the rear suspension and transmission crossmember (I mostly see that on Baltimore cars) whereas the other plants painted them overall black so I guess it is another one of those "never say never" things.

[bashton]

This is actually kinda fun, so allow me to throw out a few;

1. Those waist high stanchions at any indoor car show.
2. Car covers at any car show.
3. Radial T/A's (or any other modern radial tire) on anything that truly deserves a proper bias ply tire.
4. Cragar S/S's on anything but period correct applications. (sorry...never been a fan of S/S's!)

And I could go on and on...

Bashton

[bashton]

Oh...and another;

5. Sears or Walmart batteries...

Bashton

[markinnaples]

OK, since we're throwing out personal preference-type issues, I'll go there:

1970-73 RS bumperettes on non-RS Camaros.

I just dislike this look vehemently.

No offense to anyone, just not my cup of tea.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/zfMcyHjM/356-p20-l.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

50 cent hose clamps

[MosportGreen66]

Those weird little kid dolls that face the car with their heads down or whatever. What started that weirdness? Those are just strange to me.

100% this!

And I must be showing my age but I cannot stand Doo-wop music.

Dan

[x33rs]

I think it's more disturbing that Lee has more posts in this thread than all of you combined :D

I'm beginning to wonder if he even enjoys himself at all when he goes to a car show lol

[x33rs]

poking fun at ya :beers:

[cook_dw]

I probably overreacted in my previous post but I take research very seriously when it comes to musclecars. The anomalies and human errors on the individual cars are what make them so interesting to me. Now with that said without vintage photos or known original cars that I have seen that way I would not have given it much thought or validity.

[earntaz]

Just my thoughts -- so here goes. Parents take their children to car shows, etc. and that is great. However, some parents don't control these little people and they run amok. Now for my SAD experience. I had my 67' Corvette coupe in a car show, surrounded with plastic "chain", etc. I couple came to me and started talking about the car. Their little boy was with them and somewhat under their control, but before anyone could react, the little fart slipped under the chain, grabbed a hold of door mirror and tried to pull himself up so he could look inside the car. YUP -- broke the mirror off the door. DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lee Stewart]

I think it's more disturbing that Lee has more posts in this thread than all of you combined :D

I'm beginning to wonder if he even enjoys himself at all when he goes to a car show lol

Actually I do enjoy going to local car shows though it's been a while. I go with low expectations on the quality of the cars. And most meet said expectation so I look and always compliment the owner on his ride. Then when I see one that exceeds my expectations I take the time to talk about the car with the owner.

I do say this . . . it's more enjoyable and stress free when you just go then if you bring a car with you.

[67since67]

Oh...and another;

5. Sears or Walmart batteries...

Bashton

And the biggest battery sin of all, INTERSTATE!

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/0j8S0c5B/5tghj.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Muscle cars with RWL tires that should have red lines (or in the case of this GTO Judge - blackwalls or white lines)

[67since67]

https://i.postimg.cc/zfMcyHjM/356-p20-l.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

50 cent hose clamps

I'm not even a Camaro expert and I could list at least a dozen peeves with this one!!

[SS427]

I probably overreacted in my previous post but I take research very seriously when it comes to musclecars. The anomalies and human errors on the individual cars are what make them so interesting to me. Now with that said without vintage photos or known original cars that I have seen that way I would not have given it much thought or validity.

I'm with you there! I do not restore our cars using the 80% percentile but rather how we find them and again, assuming that is original to the assembly. I got docked points at a major car show for having the tune up and cooling decal in the "wrong" location on Mark Prunesti's car so I quickly presented a photo of the original radiator top plate and won my case. This is the first and only time I have ever seen a 70 Chevelle like this but that is the way it was done at the factory so that is the way it was restored. If not, I just lost that part of the history of that car and its roots.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/Dfj0N2xZ/7654.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

But I do make an exception with the 1969 to 1971 Nova SS. I don't know why Chevy waited until 1972 to offer RWL tires on the Nova SS. They should have been standard (or at least an option) like they were on the Camaro SS and Chevelle SS.

[Keith Seymore]

Ever see 421 emblems on the wrong sides, Royal Lic Plate frames to wanna bee’s, I ask, your car from Royal, no the idiot says.
8 lug wheels, now everyone puts them on, and 8” Snowflake wheels, where the hell are they all coming from.

My dad used to say "...if Royal actually sold all the cars with Royal license plate frames on 'em they would still be dealer prepping 'em".

K

[Billohio]

The last 2 years with wet springs and summers in my area, we missed about half or more of the shows. That got annoying.

[Burd]

I'm not even a Camaro expert and I could list at least a dozen peeves with this one!!

Leme have a crack at it

Master
Hood hinges and springs,
Rad clamps
Red plug wires
Headers
Steel booster line
Rad hose
Heater hoses
Rad cap
Hei. Hard to see.
What else?

[Burd]

Oh...and another;

5. Sears or Walmart batteries...

Bashton

Stant Rad Caps. And especially the ones with the pressure relief bar.
Red or green heater hoses. Really?

[Burd]

I hate this one,

TOUCHA MY CAR, I BREAKA U FACE

Or

PLEASE DONT TOUCH

Unless you have tits, don’t touch

[SS427]

Sometimes red heater hoses are correct as in the case of this Dick Harrell LS6 converted 70 Camaro. ;) Thanks to Chuck Sharin for the photo.

[Burd]

Really, lol. Never knew.

[m22mike]

Leme have a crack at it

Master
Hood hinges and springs,
Rad clamps
Red plug wires
Headers
Steel booster line
Rad hose
Heater hoses
Rad cap
Hei. Hard to see.
What else?


You missed a biggie, the cowl induction seal is up side down, or maybe the down side is up :rolleyes2:

[BJCHEV396]

And the biggest battery sin of all, INTERSTATE!

No,Optima 6 Pack!

[32KZ]

I probably overreacted in my previous post but I take research very seriously when it comes to musclecars. The anomalies and human errors on the individual cars are what make them so interesting to me. Now with that said without vintage photos or known original cars that I have seen that way I would not have given it much thought or validity.

Pics prior to restoration I would think should end debate.Went the same path as you dwc with my driveshaft. And my draglink ends were red, have yet to see that, but did present after undercoating was stripped,,no rust. Nothing really bugged me at shows, and have not been in years, prefer the drags, other then folks picking other's cars apart, don't like, move on.
You cant complain at a test and tune night in staging, when 13sec street cars are slowing things down, you can't pick apart cars at show and shine events, lol.

But yea, get the jest of the thread, all in fun

[Billohio]

On the camaro, looks like the valve covers off a 70 and newer and that return carb spring wow

[camarojoe]

Leme have a crack at it

Master
Hood hinges and springs,
Rad clamps
Red plug wires
Headers
Steel booster line
Rad hose
Heater hoses
Rad cap
Hei. Hard to see.
What else?

Horns are wrong too.

[L78racer]

These things..

[Burd]

You missed a biggie, the cowl induction seal is up side down, or maybe the down side is up :rolleyes2:

I’m Pontiac. Lol
My buddy made me do his 1970 Z engine detail. I need to post that up to see what I did wrong. On TA shakers, seals on on both ways from the factory, mine is upside down I’m told. I’ve never flipped it. You see both ways. The other way looks strange.

[Burd]

These things..


K&n dirt sifters. Sifts the dirt straight into your carb. Lol. Yes, hate those.

[Burd]

On the camaro, looks like the valve covers off a 70 and newer and that return carb spring wow


For 1970, LT1 Z, where does the carb spring go? We weren’t sure.
I recently found my buddy the rear loom, it has provision for the spring. ????

[Burd]

You guys forgot one, the back seat full of trophy’s. And the cars a pc of crap lol.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/pLrs8NZ4/maxresdefault.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Is this a low rider thing?

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/nrT1jTQn/16.jpg (https://postimg.cc/7JGzj3VR)

https://i.postimg.cc/SQGdvQ1H/16a.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

High Quality restorations of cars that never existed.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/ncRknRJk/untitled2.png (https://postimages.org/)

Color combinations that were never offered

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/Wb3GYGkJ/Car-Show-Pictures-009.jpg (https://postimg.cc/xqwNcbg0)

https://i.postimg.cc/Vk0jmz4f/Car-Show-Pictures-008.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Xr3ZgSTm)

[67since67]

Leme have a crack at it

Master
Hood hinges and springs,
Rad clamps
Red plug wires
Headers
Steel booster line
Rad hose
Heater hoses
Rad cap
Hei. Hard to see.
What else?

Challenge accepted LOL!! Everything you listed, plus:

1. Overstreached throttle spring hooked around mechanical temp gauge sender.
2. Weird routing of said temp gauge tube.
3. Funky plug wire holders.
4. Black paint over rusty headers.
5. Parts store batt cable ends with extra red wires to somewhere.
6. What's that red thing behind the battery, MSD?
7. Overflow hose loops around, to a catch can??
8. Voltage regulator cover not black.
9. Fender, inside engine compartment, not body color.
10. If this is supposed to be a Z-28, shouldn't it have:
a. Deep groove pulleys.
b. Fan clutch.
c. A 4 speed trans (It has a kick-down cable).
11. Hardware store P.S. adjuster bolt.
12. That's not a correct alt adjuster brace is it???
13. Core support sticker??
14. Dented up rad tank.

How am I doing so far? Reminder that I am NOT a Camaro expert, just worked on them in the dealership decades ago.

Bill W

[67since67]

Wait minute, I just noticed that the air cleaner sticker says 350, but isn't the fender contour a '69 rather than a '70?? So, is it an SS with Z stripes??:hmmm:

[Burd]

It must not be HEI, cone to think about it my buddy ordered a stock Aircleaner and it wouldn’t fit with HEI. He was asking how caving in the back would look, I pointed to the garbage can full of stuff I took off, it’ll look like that. Lol. I found him a #’s. It was a mess. I took it to Master Works. It looked brand new then, and they set it up and ran it in a dist machine to break in the points. Love that place.


The pic with the pillow stuffing burnout is a classic. LmFao

[Burd]

No,Optima 6 Pack!


Interstate battery’s, when you put a blue topper on it’s like Factory.
Actually, I hear they stopped making white battery’s.

[CanCOPO]

So what is the correct location of the 69 Z28 grille emblem?

[Lee Stewart]

So what is the correct location of the 69 Z28 grille emblem?

https://i.postimg.cc/7PJVJDnd/chevrolet-camaro-z-28-sport-coupe-1.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

A Chevrolet supplied Z/28 to either Motor Trend or Car & Driver for a magazine layout.

[markinnaples]

Judge favoritism. I was at a show a few years ago and a guy who was buddies with the people (VFW) running the show beat out everyone at the show with his yellow 1994 Mustang 6 cylinder. Now I wouldn't even had been mad if the car was clean, but it was wiped down on the topside of the engine with normal used car dirt in the rest of the engine compartment, and it looked like he ordered most of the JC Whitney catalog for the engine dress up parts including yellow color-keyed hose coverings haphazardly wrapped around said hoses. Some of the other cars there were really nice pieces of work, but this guy won over all of them. Ridiculous.

[Burd]

70Z, my buddy had to buy a Lic plate bracket, he put it on the pass side, where is the correct location?

[Lee Stewart]

70Z, my buddy had to buy a Lic plate bracket, he put it on the pass side, where is the correct location?

https://i.postimg.cc/NFbffZF4/ffff.png (https://postimages.cc/)

Just looked at a dozen photos of a 1970 RS/Z28 - all had the license plate in the same location. Ignore front spoiler - not correct

[Burd]

Thasks, Ya, we were on the fence about the chin spoiler. We went with none.
He also had the firewood dash and he had to hunt down a green steering wheel with the rosewood in. Most early cars here in the Detroit area all have that 1974 Z steering wheel on, crazy.
At the time I did his bay, we couldn’t find battery cables, he also left a chrome timing cover on which I hated, and the whole master, lines, booster was painted body color. He removed all the paint but that still all has to be done.

[BCreekDave]

For 1970, LT1 Z, where does the carb spring go? We weren’t sure.
I recently found my buddy the rear loom, it has provision for the spring. ????
The hard-to-find and expensive Holley only throttle cable to carb bracket had an extension that the spring attached to.

[m22mike]

100% this!

And I must be showing my age but I cannot stand Doo-wop music.

Dan


Dan

Thanks for mentioning the 50's Doo Wop music, ANNOYING :confused2: .

It is not your age at all. I will be 73 this summer and cant stand the overuse of it. Lets here some Rock and even lots of good 80's stuff.
And......It's to damn loud, we go to the shows and cruise in's to talk to people.

[Burd]

Yes. Even when I cruise , I put all the crappy stock Radio back stuff in, I just want to hear the exhaust, no tunes, & no GF.

[Burd]

The hard-to-find and expensive Holley only throttle cable to carb bracket had an extension that the spring attached to.

Anyone have a Pic, he had to pay like a G for the numbers Holley, lmao.it would be nice to hook it all up rite

[m22mike]

Anyone have a Pic, he had to pay like a G for the numbers Holley, lmao.it would be nice to hook it all up rite


This may not be what your looking for, but maybe similar ?
This is a re Pop bracket I bought and used on my Malibu after installing the Holly Carb and a new throttle cable. And NOS are $$$$.
Mike

[Burd]

Hey thanks. I’m trying to get pics of his car. It’s even been years since we hung out.

[Burd]

Dan

Thanks for mentioning the 50's Doo Wop music, ANNOYING :confused2: .

It is not your age at all. I will be 73 this summer and cant stand the overuse of it. Lets here some Rock and even lots of good 80's stuff.
And......It's to damn loud, we go to the shows and cruise in's to talk to people.

That’s one reason I like cars and coffee, no music

[MosportGreen66]

Dan

Thanks for mentioning the 50's Doo Wop music, ANNOYING :confused2: .

It is not your age at all. I will be 73 this summer and cant stand the overuse of it. Lets here some Rock and even lots of good 80's stuff.
And......It's to damn loud, we go to the shows and cruise in's to talk to people.

Absolutely agree! and 73 Mikey?! You look as good as your restorations buddy!

Dan

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/NFCcjk35/16209-Front-3-4-Web.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://i.postimg.cc/GmyCbYqm/IMG-7862.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

What are your thoughts on people adding ram air to cars that never had it when they left the factory?

[R68GTO]

I don't mind it if the factory offered it on that model. Putting a cowl hood on a Nova or 2nd Gen doesn't appeal to me at all.

[Lynn]

Doesn't bother me unless they are trying to pass it off as something it isn't.

Also, doesn't bother me a bit to see almost any day two mod.

Think about it. Johnny buys his new Z/28 and brings home an issue of Hot Rod. Did HR recommend he keep it stock? New tires and wheels, traction bars, headers, cheater slicks, and on and on. ALMOST NO ONE drove a bone stock HP car in the late 60's early 70's. First thing we wanted to do was figure out how to make it faster.

[wheelhop]

I hate it when I try to clean my car, you pull the paper towels out of the trunk and they are the ones with the 1/2 sheets!

[Burd]

How about when there’s a hearse at a show, and some guy calls it a Hurst.
I’m not sure why a hearse is at a show but .....

[big gear head]

Guys who put up those pop up canopies and don't anchor them. I had my car at a show last year and a guy pulled in next to me and put up one of those and didn't anchor it. He walked away and after a while the wind started getting up a little and his canopy started to blow away. A guy behind my car grabbed it and held it down. When the guy was located and told to anchor it or take it down he got mad and smarted off to me about not having a cool place to sit because of me.

[Burd]

That Firebird show in Dayton is at a new location. The show field has an incline. A guy clocking his valve stems, ( jacking up the car and spinning the tires) rolled back into his chair, cooler, and the big sign he puts out. Luckily no one was parked behind him at the moment. Crushed his chair and cooler lmfao

[BJCHEV396]

Guys who put up those pop up canopies and don't anchor them. I had my car at a show last year and a guy pulled in next to me and put up one of those and didn't anchor it. He walked away and after a while the wind started getting up a little and his canopy started to blow away. A guy behind my car grabbed it and held it down. When the guy was located and told to anchor it or take it down he got mad and smarted off to me about not having a cool place to sit because of me.

No canopies allowed at a couple shows around here.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/HxLLTzn7/17.jpg (https://postimg.cc/HJfm2QQp)

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/13PnLpGD/6.jpg (https://postimg.cc/4mLxcHF3)

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/Zq59q4DR/24.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/bYkvpZNg/48.jpg (https://postimg.cc/grcpKkhL)

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/2S8jQTd9/25.jpg (https://postimg.cc/F78QmyB0)

[Burd]

No canopies allowed at a couple shows around here.

A few years back at Dream Cruise they say a tornado was by Normandy around 13 mile sat afternoon a huge storm blew through, I go up the next day to get shirts at half off, there were those pop up things everywhere all mangled. Scrappers were picking up loads of them. Lol

[TimG]

Austin has had a Rat Rod rally in April for years, the town is consumed by pre 1963 cars and trucks all ratted out. I used to hate seeing these and didn't like them at all. I've changed over the years and now I really enjoy seeing them and can appreciate the work involved in putting one together. We go downtown and watch them run up and down South Congress by the Continental Club, it's a blast.

[x33rs]

A few years back at Dream Cruise they say a tornado was by Normandy around 13 mile sat afternoon a huge storm blew through, I go up the next day to get shirts at half off, there were those pop up things everywhere all mangled. Scrappers were picking up loads of them. Lol

They've pretty much banned those things at most car shows up here, for good reason. I despise those things.

Anyone that's been to central and Northern Arizona knows we almost always have the wind blowing, sometimes light, but we have what they call dust devils all the time that kick up some serious wind. Mini little tornados if you will that are completely unpredictable. It'll grab pebbles off the ground, dirt and debri, and especially a pop up or a lawn chair and just toss it everywhere.

Last year with 3 cars shows in the area to choose from we decided to go to the only one that allowed those pop ups apparently. Sure enough a dust devil came through, grabbed a pop up and started tossing it all around the show cars. Of course it misses everyone until it ended up smashed into the front end of dad's GTO. I just finished painting it and it messed up the nose pretty good. The saddest part is how suddenly everyone that acts like your car buddy has no clue who owns the tent, no one claimed it. Talk about one pissed off old man, boy was he hot.

[Burd]

Ever see the big ball sack hanging under a car. I don’t get that, just nasty. I guess if you love huge ball sacks.....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3_Nqc2iN9Q

[Billohio]

I found one of those ball sacks on my personal car after a trip for dinner with my friends on my birthday. My one buddy thinks he is the funniest guy around. He got it back...

[x33rs]

I found one of those ball sacks on my personal car after a trip for dinner with my friends on my birthday. My one buddy thinks he is the funniest guy around. He got it back...

:grin:

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/D0vdQQR7/yhn.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

It used to be popular but (IMO) now it's tacky . . . naming your car.

[Burd]

Once a knights enough. Lol

[mssl72]

https://i.postimg.cc/HxLLTzn7/17.jpg (https://postimg.cc/HJfm2QQp)

:shocked: :no: NNNNNOOOOOOOO!!!!

[m22mike]

Lee
Did you post this because of the dog bones or that paint job...:smirk:

[Burd]

Lowrider. Hate those.

[Canuck]

Things that bug me;
Oldsmobile valve covers on backwards.
Excessive ‘factory’ markings
Part number tags left on NOS parts.
‘Caution Fan’ stickers on Camaro
Undersize and oversized tires.
Tailpipes that aren’t cut to factory , or using Pep Boys exhaust tips.
Winter windshield wipers.
Excessive chrome or polished aluminum
W30 stripes on regular 442.
Wrong rear sway bar on 64-72 Olds 442
Trim rings on spare wheel (Olds)
Referring to it as a Four Forty Two
Aftermarket trim rings
Spray painted components
Glossy engine compartment
Alarm key in Fender unless it’s an original car.
After market battery cables.
Non factory oil filter.
Tires other than what was offered by the factory ( day two exception) example Mad Dog Avenger G70-14 7000 in 3 inch raised letters.
Other items, shocks, battery, worm clamps.

[SS427]

Based on all the different pet peeves everyone has, can someone post the perfect show car that everyone likes and finds nothing wrong with????

I learned a valuable lesson when I was a young man running an international car club in the early 80's. We had a guy try to join the club with his El Camino that was not that nice and had a lot of the same trinket show items discussed here. Many members of the club made fun of him, his car and his trinkets. When he asked to join the club we took a vote and said no as he did not fit our "molds". He was quite hurt and moved on. Over the years of going to hundreds of car shows I saw just as many different cars with their own character as I saw people with the same and I realized what we may think is a piece of crap to us was possibly the best thing that person had ever owned. I quickly realized that one man's junk was another man's treasure and that we as car people should not judge peoples cars but rather enjoy them for what they are and allow those owners to be proud of what they own.

The owner of the El Camino and how our club treated him literally haunted me for years when I matured enough to realize how I had acted. Out of the blue about three years ago he contacted me after seeing my Facebook page and just wanted to catch up. I confided in him how bad I had felt all these years. He said it really bothered him back then but had gotten over it and moved on but appreciated the fact that I not only kept it on my mind but also apologized to him.

I guess the moral of the story and seeing all these comments and pictures of these cars is someone not only owns them but is proud of them. Who are we to say that they are junk or have stupid displays? I admit I have seen some pretty strange displays and cars but evidently the owner does not see it that way and is proud to bring it to a show and display it. I see many cars at shows today that make me laugh inside but now I actually take the time to talk to the owner, ask them to tell me about their car and maybe ask why they did what they did whether I think it is or not. Sometimes there are good stories behind these cars. I walk away proud that I could make someone feel good if not for just a day. Considering the circumstances of our society today maybe we should all think about doing that. Rant over.

[Canuck]

Things I love to see st car shows;
Rare parts on factory ‘race’ cars.
Unusual colour combinations.
Documented customer ordered cars.
Cars with an interesting history.
Anything original.
Presenters who bring original owners.
Original photos and paperwork.
Original spares.
Beautiful restorations that were difficult. ( unobtanium parts)
Found original engines.

I am basing my input on the types of shows I attend . I understand if I am attending a “cars and Coffee” type of show it’s inappropriate to judge why someone has done something.
Good points Rick, let’s get our cars out ASAP.

[67since67]

Based on all the different pet peeves everyone has, can someone post the perfect show car that everyone likes and finds nothing wrong with????

I learned a valuable lesson when I was a young man running an international car club in the early 80's. We had a guy try to join the club with his El Camino that was not that nice and had a lot of the same trinket show items discussed here. Many members of the club made fun of him, his car and his trinkets. When he asked to join the club we took a vote and said no as he did not fit our "molds". He was quite hurt and moved on. Over the years of going to hundreds of car shows I saw just as many different cars with their own character as I saw people with the same and I realized what we may think is a piece of crap to us was possibly the best thing that person had ever owned. I quickly realized that one man's junk was another man's treasure and that we as car people should not judge peoples cars but rather enjoy them for what they are and allow those owners to be proud of what they own.

The owner of the El Camino and how our club treated him literally haunted me for years when I matured enough to realize how I had acted. Out of the blue about three years ago he contacted me after seeing my Facebook page and just wanted to catch up. I confided in him how bad I had felt all these years. He said it really bothered him back then but had gotten over it and moved on but appreciated the fact that I not only kept it on my mind but also apologized to him.

I guess the moral of the story and seeing all these comments and pictures of these cars is someone not only owns them but is proud of them. Who are we to say that they are junk or have stupid displays? I admit I have seen some pretty strange displays and cars but evidently the owner does not see it that way and is proud to bring it to a show and display it. I see many cars at shows today that make me laugh inside but now I actually take the time to talk to the owner, ask them to tell me about their car and maybe ask why they did what they did whether I think it is or not. Sometimes there are good stories behind these cars. I walk away proud that I could make someone feel good if not for just a day. Considering the circumstances of our society today maybe we should all think about doing that. Rant over.

Rick, this speaks loudly about your character, both as a person and as an asset to this hobby!! A fine example for us all, I am proud to have you as a friend :flag:

[Dave Rifkin]

Based on all the different pet peeves everyone has, can someone post the perfect show car that everyone likes and finds nothing wrong with????

I learned a valuable lesson when I was a young man running an international car club in the early 80's. We had a guy try to join the club with his El Camino that was not that nice and had a lot of the same trinket show items discussed here. Many members of the club made fun of him, his car and his trinkets. When he asked to join the club we took a vote and said no as he did not fit our "molds". He was quite hurt and moved on. Over the years of going to hundreds of car shows I saw just as many different cars with their own character as I saw people with the same and I realized what we may think is a piece of crap to us was possibly the best thing that person had ever owned. I quickly realized that one man's junk was another man's treasure and that we as car people should not judge peoples cars but rather enjoy them for what they are and allow those owners to be proud of what they own.

The owner of the El Camino and how our club treated him literally haunted me for years when I matured enough to realize how I had acted. Out of the blue about three years ago he contacted me after seeing my Facebook page and just wanted to catch up. I confided in him how bad I had felt all these years. He said it really bothered him back then but had gotten over it and moved on but appreciated the fact that I not only kept it on my mind but also apologized to him.

I guess the moral of the story and seeing all these comments and pictures of these cars is someone not only owns them but is proud of them. Who are we to say that they are junk or have stupid displays? I admit I have seen some pretty strange displays and cars but evidently the owner does not see it that way and is proud to bring it to a show and display it. I see many cars at shows today that make me laugh inside but now I actually take the time to talk to the owner, ask them to tell me about their car and maybe ask why they did what they did whether I think it is or not. Sometimes there are good stories behind these cars. I walk away proud that I could make someone feel good if not for just a day. Considering the circumstances of our society today maybe we should all think about doing that. Rant over.

Amen; just because something may not be your taste or meet your standards doesn't mean it is any less important or valuable to the car's owner.
While I admire all of the beautiful cars owned by the members here, my driver quality Corvette was loved and cherished by me.

[BJCHEV396]

Based on all the different pet peeves everyone has, can someone post the perfect show car that everyone likes and finds nothing wrong with????

I learned a valuable lesson when I was a young man running an international car club in the early 80's. We had a guy try to join the club with his El Camino that was not that nice and had a lot of the same trinket show items discussed here. Many members of the club made fun of him, his car and his trinkets. When he asked to join the club we took a vote and said no as he did not fit our "molds". He was quite hurt and moved on. Over the years of going to hundreds of car shows I saw just as many different cars with their own character as I saw people with the same and I realized what we may think is a piece of crap to us was possibly the best thing that person had ever owned. I quickly realized that one man's junk was another man's treasure and that we as car people should not judge peoples cars but rather enjoy them for what they are and allow those owners to be proud of what they own.

The owner of the El Camino and how our club treated him literally haunted me for years when I matured enough to realize how I had acted. Out of the blue about three years ago he contacted me after seeing my Facebook page and just wanted to catch up. I confided in him how bad I had felt all these years. He said it really bothered him back then but had gotten over it and moved on but appreciated the fact that I not only kept it on my mind but also apologized to him.

I guess the moral of the story and seeing all these comments and pictures of these cars is someone not only owns them but is proud of them. Who are we to say that they are junk or have stupid displays? I admit I have seen some pretty strange displays and cars but evidently the owner does not see it that way and is proud to bring it to a show and display it. I see many cars at shows today that make me laugh inside but now I actually take the time to talk to the owner, ask them to tell me about their car and maybe ask why they did what they did whether I think it is or not. Sometimes there are good stories behind these cars. I walk away proud that I could make someone feel good if not for just a day. Considering the circumstances of our society today maybe we should all think about doing that. Rant over.

Very well said sir!!!!

[Spooky]

Rick gets it!

[JKZ27]

Yeah, at this point I'm really just happy to see cars at car shows. I tend to not get too bothered by style or the details here at local shows. I like to see younger than average car owners. I seem to not be able to get enough 60's Chevy muscle but I really like oddball old cars not often seen.

[Burd]

Here’s one, Being put in the modified class, so you walk around the “ stock class” and there isn’t a single stock car.
There will be shows again, it’s March , there’s not much here until may june. And this is the motor city.
What ever happened to a car being a classic before you put it in a show. If you pass a few as daily drivers on the way to a show, it just maybe should be taking up a spot where a classic Should be.
This wasn’t a bash thread, it was just all in fun, a lot are tired of seeing goofy things at shows. I know I am.

[bbbentley]

...This wasn’t a bash thread, it was just all in fun, a lot are tired of seeing goofy things at shows. I know I am.
Rick, as noted, well said. I have been the one victimized and jeered at a show some 30 years ago. Guy said To his buddy, loud enough that I could hear, “they should start screening the cars they are allowing to come in here[show].”
I did not like it at the time either. And that stuff sticks with a guy, he does not forget it.
Having said that, to me, big difference what is going on in this thread. Guys just airing out what they don’t care for. Doesn’t mean we are vocalizing to owners how their ride doesn't measure up or conform to what we like. That’s rude. The other, just opinion kept to one’s self or, in this case, shared with buddies as an exercise. After all, that’s the flavor or essence of any car at a show, an expression of individual taste, opinion & artistic abilities. Most local shows I don’t care for 95% of the cars. Not my taste. Still doesn’t stop me from going, friendly talking to those owners and giving their car a once over. If anything, just to learn, make friends and gain a contact as a source for parts and to have a good time. I don’t care if they are old (owner or car), if they have money or not, if the project is finished or not, you get the point. Always an interesting story, if the owner opens up and talks? If I shared an opinion in this thread, and I did, it was with guys I figured shared similar opinions? As a disclaimer; If I did? I never intended to insult anyone reading this thread that does to their car any of the peeves I noted. As a free person in a free country, I enjoy, and defend others, saying what they want. But I was brought up with enough manners and sense not to intentionally disparage or insult fellow hobbyists. And when I do say something interpreted as hurtful, I apologize to that person and ask my Savior for forgiveness.

[Tommy]

Based on all the different pet peeves everyone has, can someone post the perfect show car that everyone likes and finds nothing wrong with????
.


The car show and the car show with the swap meet.


Tommy

[big gear head]

So instead of what I don't like, here is what I do like. I like 14 and 15 inch wheels, wide in the rear and skinny in the front on muscle cars. A little rake without being too low. I like old school or original engines with carburetors and distributors. I love manual transmissions. I like clean, simple and uncluttered. I like spoilers if they are correct for the car, factory style paint and stripes.

[Lee Stewart]

I'm in a bashing mood so I'm not going to post any more on this thread. It was fun while it lasted. And as a farewell gift . . . . colored spark plug wires!

https://i.postimg.cc/SKqBDY4T/s-l1600.jpg (https://postimg.cc/tsSvgTYW)

[Lee Stewart]

OK - just one more - I promise . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/XqxVKMpJ/image.jpg (https://postimg.cc/q6hV05cV)

[Burd]

Lee. We’re on the same page. Lmao. Hate colored spark plug wires, hate those signs.

Here’s one everyone hates, shows on black top. And especially when the black top is in bad condition, so people kick chunks into cars. Like a show in Pontiac I went to.
I know a guy, won’t mention his name, was at a car show at a Golf course in the Chicago area, good place for a show, lol His Bird got hit by a gold ball. Can you play a round at pebble beach when the show is there, lmao.

[Burd]

https://24hoursoflemons.com/concours-d-lemons/

There’s a show for everyone.

[Burd]

I'm in a bashing mood so I'm not going to post any more on this thread. It was fun while it lasted. And as a farewell gift . . . . colored spark plug wires!

https://i.postimg.cc/SKqBDY4T/s-l1600.jpg (https://postimg.cc/tsSvgTYW)


And I hate that B Cool cap and Rad. It would be way better as a beer can.
It would B cooler with a nice numbers correct factory radiator, in the correct black sheen, showing that you replaced the dumb one some guy put in back in the 70’s. Doing your homework on looking for the correct radiator the car left the factory with, getting an expensive nOS cap, I guess Let’s just start using the Jeggs catalog to do our cars I guess. For the people that don’t agree here, when you walk by that rare car at a show, and the owner cut cut a hole in the hood for a chrome Aircleaner, love it. Tell the guy good job.
(Those lines are a whole diff disgust)

[Burd]

For some reason, the wheels on the vette were looking good.

[X66 714]

The Italians say "abbondanza"

[Lynn]

I am sure she is someone's daughter, maybe a wife and mother; but if you are going to dress like that, you are inviting abuse. It would be impolite not to accept.

So...... that's what Jessica Rabbit looks like after 40 years of sitting on the sofa eating chips.

[X66 714]

QUOTE:So...... that's what Jessica Rabbit looks like after 40 years of sitting on the sofa eating chips.

That's funny. Thank you, Joe

[earntaz]

For some reason, the wheels on the vette were looking good.

May be nuclear -- danger of fallout ...

[PeteLeathersac]

'

With today's world, it wouldn't be surprising if it was someone's husband/son before updates too?:confused:
No fooling as all parts are available for a price...gimme an innie doc w/ a pair of L50's!:shocked:
:no:

.

[Keith Seymore]

Based on all the different pet peeves everyone has, can someone post the perfect show car that everyone likes and finds nothing wrong with????

I learned a valuable lesson when I was a young man running an international car club in the early 80's. We had a guy try to join the club with his El Camino that was not that nice and had a lot of the same trinket show items discussed here. Many members of the club made fun of him, his car and his trinkets. When he asked to join the club we took a vote and said no as he did not fit our "molds". He was quite hurt and moved on. Over the years of going to hundreds of car shows I saw just as many different cars with their own character as I saw people with the same and I realized what we may think is a piece of crap to us was possibly the best thing that person had ever owned. I quickly realized that one man's junk was another man's treasure and that we as car people should not judge peoples cars but rather enjoy them for what they are and allow those owners to be proud of what they own.

The owner of the El Camino and how our club treated him literally haunted me for years when I matured enough to realize how I had acted. Out of the blue about three years ago he contacted me after seeing my Facebook page and just wanted to catch up. I confided in him how bad I had felt all these years. He said it really bothered him back then but had gotten over it and moved on but appreciated the fact that I not only kept it on my mind but also apologized to him.

I guess the moral of the story and seeing all these comments and pictures of these cars is someone not only owns them but is proud of them. Who are we to say that they are junk or have stupid displays? I admit I have seen some pretty strange displays and cars but evidently the owner does not see it that way and is proud to bring it to a show and display it. I see many cars at shows today that make me laugh inside but now I actually take the time to talk to the owner, ask them to tell me about their car and maybe ask why they did what they did whether I think it is or not. Sometimes there are good stories behind these cars. I walk away proud that I could make someone feel good if not for just a day. Considering the circumstances of our society today maybe we should all think about doing that. Rant over.

My revelation, after a lifetime in this hobby:

"Red is not better than blue".

K

[hiperf406]

It really bugs me to see a restoration with a no name battery in the car. If you have the money to restore a car, doesn't matter Ford, Mopar or GM, you should at least try to put in a matching battery.

[Burd]

It’s strange, some will not bother w/ battery’s, rad caps, plug wires, I’d say battery’s and rad caps are the most common.

[67 Nova Boy]

Leme have a crack at it

Master
Hood hinges and springs,
Rad clamps
Red plug wires
Headers
Steel booster line
Rad hose
Heater hoses
Rad cap
Hei. Hard to see.
What else?

I see the RED MSD box hidden in the right fender...atleast paint it Black.

Dave
67 Nova Boy

[Burd]

I can’t tell you how many times I was asked, IS THAT THE BIG BLOC PONTIAC ENGINE?
I just say yes now.

[1971ls6]

Don’t forget the O’Reilly chrome Holley fuel line with the fuel pressure gauge.

My biggest pet peeve are white letters that have never seen Westlys bleach white

[mssl72]

I get a kick out of people saying that in 1966 a Caprice couldn't be ordered like this.

[marxjunk]

I dont mind what other people do to their cars..its theirs...i dont like people trying to pass off something that isnt what it really is..

heres my pet peve..theres always one..he's walking around with a small audience, walking from car to car, and explaining whats wrong with the car, he's usually some type of addict..mostly alcohol, he uses his arms and hands, hes always squatting, and the drunker he gets the louder he gets...and his audience is just hanging on his every word, and he has no clue what he's really talking about...and he is looking at every person around the car, to see if anyone else will join his cult...i wanna strangle those dudes..really..just choke them out..

[Burd]

Wow, a Smokey And the Bandit car, my buddy used to have one just like this. Does it have the 455?

Yes, it has all that butt wipe.

[Mr70]

I respect everyone's right to express themselves through their vehicle and how it looks w/o criticism
But there is one thing I always speak up about.When someone pedals their bicycle up close around the cars @ a car show/cruise,be they young or old.
I've seen so many door & fender incidents that in some cases,I've stopped going.You have to literally stand next to your car to protect it,and no one wants to do that all day.
Many spend hundreds,if not thousands of hours & God knows how many dollars getting their cars to how they want them to look,so to me this is just a complete lack of respect for other people's property,as well as ignorance.

[big gear head]

I was at the Super Car Reunion a few years ago and a couple with their kids comes by looking at the cars. One of the kids opens the door and is getting in my car. I had to stop him because his parents didn't.

Several years earlier I was at another show and a friend of mine had his '38 Chevy sedan there. Some parents and their kids come by and the kids open the doors on this guy's car and get in one side and slide across the seat and out the door on the other side. Parents didn't stop them.

I was at my home town show a few years ago and had my car parked at the bottom of a hill. Some kids were riding scooters down the hill straight at my car and another car. We ran them off once but they came back later. I had to get the police to make them stop.

I've got 2 door dings and several scratches on my car that all came from car shows.

[Mr. Chevy]

What I like is when the parents get nasty with you when you tell their child to please not do whatever it is they are doing touching, opening the door, standing on running boards etc... You get the old "It ain't gonna hurt nothing"

LOL

Rich

[Burd]

A buddy took his Fauxbra ( fake Cobra) up on Woodward during Dreamcruise week, he must have been walking around, he came back to his car, a guy and his kid was eating ice cream in his car. Lmao. Too bad his kid didn’t burn his leg on the sidepipe.
I got him a DO NOT ENTER THE VEHICLE PLEASE sign, we used them on the turntables and platforms at the Auto Show. People go up on both to sit in the new cars on turntables at the shows, You just wonder about people.
In the big city’s, the gangs come in and lock them selves in cars, turn the radio up full blast, the high end cars are always powered up. It’s unreal.

[Billohio]

I saw a family put 3 kids in an Isetta at a nice show for a picture. I couldnt believe it. Owner was no where around

[Mr. Chevy]

Bill, that's why unfortunately you have to stay and "baby sit" your car if its nice and you worry about it. It's unfortunate we have to do that.. Some people just don't get it..

Rich

[WILMASBOYL78]

There are certainly challenges with cars and the public...a recipe for disaster in too many cases. I recall a really interesting event at a local show...a car friend and I had gone to get some food, came back to find some guy kind of leaning/half sitting on the front fender of his car.

He was very composed...walked up to this jerker and said it was a nice car and asked if it was his...the guy said no...and with that my friend punched him and knocked him off the fender right on his ass. My friend offered to wait if the guy wanted to call security...but the moron chose not to and just limped off down the trail.

Now we can talk about baby carriages next...never mind, that will take up too much space!

-wilma :wink:

[southernfriedcj]

People that don't drive their cars. Trailer them to cars shows.

They are CARS. Drive the damn things.

If I had a '71 Hemi Cuda convertible you would see me wheeling it around town on a regular basis.

I can't wrap my head around someone that treats a car like the crown jewels.

That would be like owning a 3 million dollar home and not living in it.

[70 copo]

When people decide to test urethane Bumpers or nose pieces to see how soft it is..with a fingernail no less.

[SS427]

People that don't drive their cars. Trailer them to cars shows.


Well I for one have little choice. I put more into our restoration than I make in several years. Even though it is heavily insured its not about the money. Add to it that it rolls on 50 year old tires and it pretty much inhibits me from driving it. That and the fact that I have never owned a car of this caliber and want to keep it this way. I know it is a waste to have a car sit, believe me but I have little choice at the moment.

[BJCHEV396]

Kids riding their bikes around my Camino at a show scare the crap out of me!

[Burd]

Baggies on the pedals. Lmfao. I have a set of nOS floor mats I don’t put in, I get that, but baggies ��
The GTO natz was in the D few years back, guys had zip locks baggies on the pedals so their shoes wouldn’t get scuffs on the nos rubber brake so on.
Plastic Car covers at shows, that blow off into other cars. Another stupid thing.

[mssl72]

People that don't drive their cars. Trailer them to cars shows.


I hear what you're saying, but in the Los Angeles area and I'm sure other large metropolitan areas, it's better to trailer cars to a show at a distance than try to drive it with tall gears and in stop-n-go traffic. Even if it's somewhat open traffic and you've got at least 3.73-4.10 gears at 65 you're doing over 3k RPMs, for say an 1-1 1/2 hours straight on the freeway around here. I'm not crazy about doing that.

[70 copo]

Well I for one have little choice. I put more into our restoration than I make in several years. Even though it is heavily insured its not about the money. Add to it that it rolls on 50 year old tires and it pretty much inhibits me from driving it. That and the fact that I have never owned a car of this caliber and want to keep it this way. I know it is a waste to have a car sit, believe me but I have little choice at the moment.

Yes the Trailer Queen argument is a tough one because some people see it as a waste of a car. Driving a valuable car however is a calculated risk.

I have a garage and a building full of cars and memorabilia. Some people call it a museum. I see the cars and the stuff as art, and like most of us many are stored in car capsules. Some are prepped for long term storage, some I drive. The ones I drive do have 35 to 50 year old tires and some are tubed for safety and inspected

Like you I have committed to the preservation of the cars and the history and that's what I like. Some guys like to get them out and bang gears and roast the tires.

To each his own.:beers:

[mprice]

Boy judging from the comments here I don't know why you guys would bother to attend a car show if it frustrates you so much. I to get frustrated by a number of things at car shows but I think we need to enjoy them while we can because the next generation seems to have less interest than we do. I for one appreciate the perfectly restored cars that are pampered, trailered, manicured and proudly displayed for our viewing pleasure. I can see the daily drivers at the local street cruises.

[Burd]

Here’s the thing on the trailer cars, ok, so when I drive 3 hours to a show, when I get there, I’ll walk around and see friends and look at cars, grab a beer, you get your a$$ over and detail my Car and engine bay for like 3 hours. :burnout:


And if it rains, you got somewhere to put it.

[Burd]

Boy judging from the comments here I don't know why you guys would bother to attend a car show if it frustrates you so much. I to get frustrated by a number of things at car shows but I think we need to enjoy them while we can because the next generation seems to have less interest than we do. I for one appreciate the perfectly restored cars that are pampered, trailered, manicured and proudly displayed for our viewing pleasure. I can see the daily drivers at the local street cruises.


Exactly. That’s why I just do cruise Ins and cars and coffee, idiots have ruined shows for me. Then no one brought this up, some shows are on black top, nice, the judges should sit there on the hot black top all day and cook, just to get a plastic trophy or nothing, cause the judges buddy got your award, with the new Camaro.

[earntaz]

Exactly. That’s why I just do cruise Ins and cars and coffee, idiots have ruined shows for me. Then no one brought this up, some shows are on black top, nice, the judges should sit there on the hot black top all day and cook, just to get a plastic trophy or nothing, cause the judges buddy got your award, with the new Camaro.


Same here -- after that little boy broke the mirror off the door on my Corvette I never put it another car show. Just not worth it -- take the car to the show on Friday morning, baby sit it all weekend and take it home Sunday PM. No MORE!!!

[southernfriedcj]

Well I for one have little choice. I put more into our restoration than I make in several years. Even though it is heavily insured its not about the money. Add to it that it rolls on 50 year old tires and it pretty much inhibits me from driving it. That and the fact that I have never owned a car of this caliber and want to keep it this way. I know it is a waste to have a car sit, believe me but I have little choice at the moment.

If I win the lottery I'm going to get an LS6 convertible, have you restore it and then beat it like a rented mule.

BTW, did you came by my house(in GA) a dozen years ago or so and buy a lift or two?

[Burd]

Myself, I don’t trailer my car, I do drive to shows. Shows far away a trailer is the only
way to go, I know a few that break down on the way to these shows 3-4 hours away. And all the cleaning, if I win the lotto, I’ll buy a COPO and cut a hole in the hood for a mr gasket chrome air cleaner, for the lovers of all cars, make sure you come by at the show and say great job Burd, I love what you did. :beers:

[427TJ]

Guys who hang around your car until you come back and then tell you what's wrong with it. Guys who ask is this your car and then tell you all about the one they had back in the old days and as soon as they finish they walk away.

Camaro experts who insist that because spoilers are in the '67 assembly manual that they were available on '67s from the factory.
Camaro experts who insist that air conditioning was available on '67 396 cars and when challenged they say a buddy has two of them. Can I see them? Oh no, super secret location, no one but the expert has ever seen them.

And yes, all the first-gens with SS/Z stuff, wrong Rally caps, cowl hoods done to death, etc.

Fun thread. I needed some laughs!!

[Burd]

It’s a learn and laugh thread. Ive had some good laughs through this COPO-19 virus. Lol yes, I’m giving Corona beer a break

[Tracker1]

https://i.postimg.cc/j5V64RBg/bbbb.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

https://i.postimg.cc/vTbWC3Y5/cccc.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

1971 Hemi Challenger R/Ts with not only the 1970 R/T fender emblem either crooked or in the wrong place.

I hear you Lee and agree, but the gold car at the top in your post is a low-mile original car, the factory did that crappy install of the R/T emblem.

[Burd]

Here’s one, battery’s in the trunk. Yes, a few did come that way. But not the ones I’m talking about. Lol

[Burd]

Any like Painted Boosters. Good, black, silver. I’ve seen them all. Then you ge5bthe guys that get the Eastwood kit and try to FAKE a cad.

[TomP]

I've seen lots of stupid stuff at car shows. The old days it was almost required, as ISCA shows gave you points for the number of modification.... tasteful or not. It was common to see huge fender flares on cars with blowers , wheelie bars and a wood and velour interior, along with dual sunroofs.
Now it'd have to be stupid Eleanors. That fad is still ruining good Mustang fastbacks.

[m22mike]

How about General Lee Chargers .....:no:

[Lee Stewart]

You guys are having too much fun!

https://i.postimg.cc/QtT4kFXJ/screenshot-7806.png (https://postimages.org/)

1970 'Cudas with Red Sport Stripes. Again - Black only.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/QCPnpc7m/fsa.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

How do you feel about 1963 Corvettes having KO wheels? They weren't available as a factory option until the 64 models.

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/65fZSnz1/screenshot-7807.png (https://postimages.org/)

The Only 1971 V-Code Convertible in Curious Yellow

When you only make 17 - that pretty much guarantees that at least half will be an "only one in this color."

[olredalert]

https://i.postimg.cc/QCPnpc7m/fsa.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

How do you feel about 1963 Corvettes having KO wheels? They weren't available as a factory option until the 64 models.

----I'm agin it!.....Bill S

[L_e_e]

Yep, the pinstripe whitewalls would be the over the top perfect addition.
I'm really diggin that silver with the KO's.. looks like an 1950's artists rendition of a future space ship.

[TimG]

I like the '63's with original KO wheels and two bar spinners.

[Keith Seymore]

https://i.postimg.cc/QCPnpc7m/fsa.jpg (https://postimages.cc/)

How do you feel about 1963 Corvettes having KO wheels? They weren't available as a factory option until the 64 models.

I love it.

Then again, I have Pontiac Rally I wheels on my '63 Lemans (not available until '65).

K

http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af284/lmseymore/Dustoff%202012/DSC00805.jpg~original

D@mn photobucket.

[olredalert]

----I'm not knocking KO's as I have three sets (two NOS), but like to see a 63 as it was produced. Plus, I have only one Corvette they would be correct for. Original KO's are, to me, one of the most beautiful wheels ever designed!.....Bill S

[Burd]

Diff wheels never bothered me, in 20 min you can be back to stock. My orig wheels and 1983 tires are a table for now. Lol

[Lee Stewart]

----I'm not knocking KO's as I have three sets (two NOS), but like to see a 63 as it was produced. Plus, I have only one Corvette they would be correct for. Original KO's are, to me, one of the most beautiful wheels ever designed!.....Bill S

I agree 100% with what you are saying Bill. And to add to it, here IMO is the second most beautiful wheel ever designed:

https://i.postimg.cc/vZ2MQ0Jm/pontiac-bonneville-convertible-3.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[olredalert]

----Especially the mid design of the 8-lugs (63-64)…….Bill S

[Burd]

8;lugs used to be cool. Now so many have them on. Not my fave’s anymore

[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/J0HPZZks/ford-mustang-hardtop-46.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

Improperly installed exhaust systems.

[Keith Seymore]

8;lugs used to be cool. Now so many have them on. Not my fave’s anymore

Extra credit since they are original to the car.

K

[Burd]

Well yes. I saw that fine car at the Dust Off.

[Burd]

What about Donks, Cars with big rims. Some even spin?
Another is these custom cars that you just walk by and think, Why?

[jbtech]

I agree with so many of these posts it's made me think long and hard about the direction of my build. Thanks for all the fun!

Things I like at a show:

-Friendly people who enjoy talking about their cars to newcomers
-Delicious corn dogs
-fairly priced admission

Things I do not like at a show:

-Firemaros

[MagicRatt]

Things I hate at shows and cruise nights..........
Bicycles
Baby coaches
Dogs on long leashes
The dude who insists my camaro is a 701/2, not a 70

Rich

[mssl72]

Didn't somebody mention about not liking models of the cars with the car?? I ran across this picture from a few years ago.

https://i.ibb.co/5kthHn6/P9100057.jpg (https://ibb.co/1MhGWdL)

[Burd]

Lmao.
Yes on the firemaros. These guys who think they can go out and get a new one and it’s the same thing as the old ones. Nope.
At the natz this year, my booth was next to the brothers that make them in Florida. Ya, the tv show too, I’d rather watch white trash customs in Texas than them.
Don’t forget the good brats and Italian sausage smothered in undies at the shows. Candied bacon on a stick.

[CanCOPO]

Don't forget knock-offs on wheels with lug nuts

[jbtech]

Lmao.
Yes on the firemaros. These guys who think they can go out and get a new one and it’s the same thing as the old ones. Nope.
At the natz this year, my booth was next to the brothers that make them in Florida. Ya, the tv show too, I’d rather watch white trash customs in Texas than them.
Don’t forget the good brats and Italian sausage smothered in undies at the shows. Candied bacon on a stick.

Now I'm hungry, thanks.

Don't forget knock-offs on wheels with lug nuts

https://media.giphy.com/media/4baoNZ5Qo8dX2/200.gif

[x44d80]

Here in Utah the big car shows and swap meets are mostly together. I'm disappointed year after year of seeing the same "professional" vendors trying to sell the same junk year after year. After 30 years I think I've scored a BBC "198" intake is all, but I paid a lot for it.

[Billohio]

I had the best cuban sandwich I ever had at a car show out of a food truck. Sad thing is, thats the only time they are close to my house.
We had one show that had several food trucks and the people hosting the show changed and they got rid of the food trucks so we had to eat at the local restaurants which there were not enough of. The porta potties also disappeared and they doubled the entry fee.

[Burd]

Hmmm. WHAT I HATE AT SWAP MEETS. lmao

I hate the guys selling tools, sand paper, tables full of hot wheels, colored wire looms, colored zip ties, the shamy booth. I met the shamy guy in DC that a hooker bit his tongue.

[Burd]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/411874180264132/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined



Please tell me under the bonnet isn’t all blue. Check out the Blue Crock interior.

[x33rs]

I had the best cuban sandwich I ever had at a car show out of a food truck. Sad thing is, thats the only time they are close to my house.
We had one show that had several food trucks and the people hosting the show changed and they got rid of the food trucks so we had to eat at the local restaurants which there were not enough of. The porta potties also disappeared and they doubled the entry fee.

LOL We went to a show last fall and the promotor couldn't get the city to bring porta potties, they said because of the beer virus they wouldn't do it. Once the local businesses that were in walking distance got wind of that, they closed all public restrooms too. So we had about 150 cars out there, with even more people that turned into an angry mob that had to pee. :grin: It was funny, guys were hiding behind 4 foot bushes to go pee and the women were wanting to leave.

[JRC99]

Here's a couple things I hate:

Leased Scat Packs. I work at a Dodge dealer. I see the damn things every day, yours ain't special.
Old farts that blow me off because I'm 21 and clearly don't know anything. Never forget asking a guy if his COPO Camaro was legit and getting a snarky "Sure." Alright pal, sorry you got called out on your clone by a (at the time) 14 year old.

People who are too concerned with how somebody else did their car. I'd gladly put a spoiler on a '67 Camaro or Firebird because I like how it looks and don't care if it's 'wrong.' I've got yellow plug wires on our '68 because I like 'em. Didn't do it for anyone else. (Note: This was kinda based off a few things in this thread- but I don't mean for anyone to take it personally. It's just my viewpoint)

Also sick of how every car these days is a super rare one of one. Especially when what supposedly makes it rare is something silly like a certain date code, or a lighting option, or heater, etc. Any option that didn't improve performance isn't really special to me.

The whole 'investment/market' mindset grinds my gears too. I'm into these cars because they look good, they sound good, they feel good to be in, and because I like seeing them, and how they were done at a certain point in time- whether it be a 90s Pro Street time capsule or a picture perfect Day 2 car.

I wouldn't care it these things were only worth $500 because that's not why I'm interested in them. Never was, never will be.

[Burd]

Isn’t Scat, Cat or animal droppings (poop) ? Never got the Mopar thing
Poop pack? hmmm

[Lee Stewart]

The late 60s represented the fiercest period of competition between the Big Three (and to a lesser extent, AMC) for the attentions of speed-thirsty American buyers. By the time 1968 rolled around, Dodge was in the catbird seat with its line-up of fierce street machines, including the Dodge Coronet R/T, the Dodge Charger R/T, and the Dodge Dart GTS, each of which could be ordered with an (underrated) 375 horsepower, 440 cubic inch V8 under the hood. A 340 cubic inch Dart Swinger was also available, and of course 426 Hemi power was also in the cards for all three models.

What was missing, however was a way to unify each of these uniquely-named models under a single, world-beating banner – an issue that would only get worse with the introduction of the Dodge Super Bee mid-year. The problem was put to the talented team at the Ross Roy Ad Agency, which came up with the idea of the ‘Scat Pack’ designation that would encompass each of these cars. It was a play on words – the Rat Pack had been Sinatra’s gang of Hollywood pals that became legendary for their partying and the pictures they made together – and as such Dodge also created an actual Scat Pack Club that both owners and Mopar fans could join for the very affordable price of three dollars. For the money, members received a monthly newsletter, a quarterly magazine, a wallet card declaring their loyalty, a bumper sticker and jacket patch, and a racing guide.

The Scat Pack logo was a variation on the drag-racing Super Bee found on, well, the Dodge Super Bee, and collectively the group of cars was referred to as ‘the hive.’ The marketing team went on the warpath, blanketing dealerships, magazines, and television with references to ‘Scat City’ and the full line-up of Scat Pack cars. By 1970 the family had ground to include the Charger Daytona and the Dodge Challenger, and when the final year of the Scat Pack came to pass the Dodge Demon 340 was also included. So successful was the entire initiative that Plymouth got into the act with its ‘Rapid Transit System’ which would run from 1970 to 1972, and included the ‘Cuda, the GTX, the Superbird, the Duster 340, and the Roadrunner.

https://www.slashgear.com/a-brief-history-of-dodges-scat-pack-from-late-60s-marketing-masterstroke-to-modern-muscle-machine-13467357/

https://i.postimg.cc/J7BrLM3T/68-Scat-Pack5.jpg (https://postimg.cc/MXq20kFR)