Black LOS 69 RS/Z JL8 Crossram

[1903USMCUnertl]

Hi all

I was talking recently with a friend who went with me back in 1995 (maybe 1996) to look at a black 1969 LOS RS/Z, Crossram JL8 car a guy in western VA owned. The car was restored and had (off memory) a ton of options...endura, blue light 8 track, deluxe. tilt, wood grain wheel, gauges, etc..

The car had a legit RPO rear (tapered tube) and GM crossram, but the lack of documentation, X code, tons of options, and ironically the fiberglass crossram hood prop rod location...I remember it was on the opposite side from what every photo I found showed...caused me to hold off. The price at the time was $19k (again going off memory). This was solid money for a 69 Z, even with options..

The guy who owned it was a HUGE Ford guy named Ed Ulyate (sp?) who owned a bunch of stuff including a 427 Cobra (real) a Rally Green Yenko and a few Boss 429 Mustangs (among a bunch of other cars).

Heard the car went to BJ and was sold that year...Any idea if it was real or what happened to it? Looking back..should have just bought it..lol

[X66 714]

I don't know the car but I will tell you no 1969 Camaro ever left the assm plant with crossram….Joe

[firstgenaddict]

Without factory paper Van Nuys Z28's are difficult to document...
1998-99 I was offered a couple of Yenko Camaro's a COPO Camaro and Deuce Nova all complete cars in various stages of restoration for 95k - my hindsight is WAY BETTER than 20/20, however I saw the potential even then... just had no capital nor time for the projects at just a few years out of college.
Hindsight being so good... I ask my dad why he didn't buy the 63 Corvette Grandsport George Wintersteen had for sale in the back of his 1967 Hot Rod magazine for only $5500? He said I had just sold my 58 vette for $850... no way I was buying another plastic pig for more than what I was paying for my new 68 442.

[prototype]

I met Ed when I bought some cars from Carl Dwiggins.

He definitely put together a heck of a collection and intended on doing a museum that I'm not sure came together.

Ed was the 3 Day Blind guy, came into the car world with a bang. I haven't heard his name for at least a decade.

[1903USMCUnertl]

Someone has to remember this car...lol

Ed had some super cool stuff...actually got a ride to the 7-11 in the Cobra.

One of the coolest things he had...a Hughes 500 on a pad in a field...and a red Ferrari

[dboles]

I remember Ed. He campaigned a high dollar WoO sprinter in the mid 80's in Northern California. Big name drivers only ! Car number was 3DB.

[Lee Stewart]

Is this the car being referred to?

https://i.postimg.cc/YqwQDy0f/cft.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/dd13/the-don-davis-collection/lots/r109-1969-chevrolet-camaro-z28-rs-coupe/296037#/expandGallery

[WorkinProgress]

That car is a Norwood build.

- Warren

[1903USMCUnertl]

So looks like Ed is somewhere in Florida (as of 2017?)...Found a pic of him with a rig..The guy had some great taste in cars...didn't know he restored the Dragon Snake Cobra...cool.

I had the Camaro VIN written down somewhere...it has been over 20 years though..

[x33rs]

I saw the 427 dragon snake cobra in a shop in Cincinnati. I don't know who owned it at the time but it was there for some mechanical work. I want to say it was mid 1990's?? Was in unrestored condition at that time and running, they were doing some tuning on the chassis dyno with it. I've read there was only one of those built. The others were 289's.

[1903USMCUnertl]

The one he restored was CSX2093...a fuschia car..

[x33rs]

I don't remember much about the one I saw. I was actually at the shop attending to my own stuff and didn't get to pay as much attention to the cobra as I would have liked. I don't even remember the name of the shop anymore.

They just happened to have it on the chassis dyno when I stopped in.
I remember the cobra was a dark red color, and had a hard top on it which I thought was odd at the time, slicks on the back and skinnies up front. Had some verbiage on the doors and was a 427. I do recall they were disappointed with the dyno numbers. It had the appearance of just being pulled out of long time storage. I was told it was an original 427 Dragonsnake cobra.

At that time period I was more familiar with them in SCCA and to see one back then originally setup for the dragstrip was odd to me.

[COPO]

This looks like the car you have described, but it is a Norwood build and not originally black.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/chevrolet/camaro/2332926.html

[Xplantdad]

The one he restored was CSX2093...a fuschia car..


I think that CSX2093 is a 289 car?




See here, too: https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1963-SHELBY-289-COBRA-DRAGONSNAKE-CSX2093-215505

[Jonesy]

This looks like the car you have described, but it is a Norwood build and not originally black.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/chevrolet/camaro/2332926.html

I dont think thats the car hes talking about

124379N642448

That car appears to have had a color change from when it appeared at BJ in 2006, it was White with Black stripes and Black Standard interior.
https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-Z/28-RS-JL8-COUPE-39961

Then 6 years later it shows up at Mecum and its Black with white stripes and Houndstooth interior.
https://www.sportscardigest.com/mecum-original-spring-classic-2012-auction-report/6/

[Kurt S]

I dont think thats the car hes talking about
124379N642448

Restamped drivetrain too, imo.

[COPO]

Strange someone repaints it a non-original color and puts in a non-original interior after it was already restored and sold for $236K and then it sells for less than half that amount.

[RPOLS3]

While the black is certainly a rare color, you don't see too many white ones either. The white looks pretty good IMO.

[wiiildcat]

Strange someone repaints it a non-original color and puts in a non-original interior after it was already restored and sold for $236K and then it sells for less than half that amount.

This Z was bought by Dana from Lee smith, Lee had this and a yellow open headlight z jl8 crossram. I bought the yellow one. Both sold at Mecum Kissimmee 2006 I think it was. His sold for 115k mine 145k. Then month later see the white one sell for quarter mill wanted to hurt myself lol. A lawer, big collector in Dallas bought it from Barrett. Guess he didn't like the white !

[Tracker1]

236K???!!! For a '69 Z28??!! That's gotta be a world record price. Especially for a car without a shred of documentation and a bunch of added options?