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ALLZS
05-20-2020, 12:59 AM
is the correct stripe lay out on early build 69 z28 deck lid the same as a 68 z was
William
05-20-2020, 03:02 AM
The only proof of a '69 built with the '68 rear stripe layout is the January '69 Hot Rod magazine test car. The same car was featured in the March '69 PHR and June '69 Sports Car Graphic. I wondered about it but figured it was a Pilot build. About 7 years ago the CRG was contacted by someone having an early LA production '69 Z/28. The window sticker that came with the car had some unusual aspects he was concerned about. The most unusual, the car was not delivered to a dealer, but the LA zone office. The w/s had a stamping that indicated the car had been in company use. As I read through the options, I became certain it was the magazine test car: orange, black comfortweave, N33, N40, U15, U46, U69, VE3. Did not have Z21. That is a very unusual combination of rare options and an exact match to the test car.
It was not a Pilot build; produced early September '68 at Van Nuys. No Norwood cars are known to have been built with the '68 stripe layout. There may be one other Van Nuys car with the '68 stripes.
I am surprised it was sold. Hot Rod not only tested it, they modified it with aftermarket clutch, flywheel, scattershield, comp plus shifter, headers, blueprinted heads, re-jetted carb. They installed T-bars, 5.38 gears and ran it with Goodyear slicks. After a few 12.70s, the rear axle blew.
Still exists; haven't heard from the current owner since.
ZLP955
05-20-2020, 10:57 AM
Is this the same car?
William
05-20-2020, 11:46 AM
That's it!
ZLP955
05-20-2020, 12:12 PM
I was given a chance to buy the car in 2017, but just couldn't come up with the funds..... had a feeling it was a special car, given the unusual options (it was me who sent Kurt the WS to review).
William
05-20-2020, 12:24 PM
Is it in Australia?
ZLP955
05-20-2020, 12:37 PM
Yep. I have a picture of the PoP and warranty card somewhere, will PM you if I can find it.
Jonesy
05-20-2020, 02:00 PM
Man, that thing has alot of options on it.
Kurt S
05-20-2020, 05:23 PM
Tim,
It was a prior owner who posted the WS and POP back in 2013. It was in pieces at the time.
Sold at Gledhill Chev.
ZLP955
05-20-2020, 07:35 PM
Thanks Kurt, I did send you the full WS too, but didn't appreciate you'd already seen it. Yes it was sold at Fred Gledhill. Current owner bought car around 2014 mostly disassembled, had been off the road since 1987, and then got it put back together by 2017. I helped out where I could during the reassembly but haven't been in touch since he gave me a shot at buying it, but will see what I can turn up. I do have lots of pictures, and recall the block had the partial VIN by the oil filter.
Tracker1
05-20-2020, 08:11 PM
Cool the car still exists! Australia must be the place where old road test muscle cars go to get a new lease on life. The Buccaneer Red 1973 Super Duty 455 Trans Am that made the rounds in the mags in May 1973 is now being restored over there (under there?) too.
ALLZS
05-22-2020, 12:16 AM
so the norwood car did not have the early style deck lid strips just lA ?
William
05-22-2020, 03:55 PM
No Norwood Z/28s are known to have been built with the '68 rear stripe layout.
jerry455
05-22-2020, 09:13 PM
WOW!
Amazing that this Z/28 is still around and appreciated for how historic it was-
How many Z/28s were sold by that cover car feature in Hot Rod- "Wide-Awake Sleeper" for sure. My old Z was super early build. I bought in Dec. of '80 from original owner. He bought it locally in Oct. of '68. He was looking at SS396 Camaro in summer of 1968, but salesman told him to wait a few months for the '69 Z/28 because that 302 was more a potent package. I'll dig up some photos of the rear view, it was LA build car. I added front rear spoilers back then.
HS parking lot- '83ish.
firstgenaddict
05-23-2020, 12:02 PM
Here is LA 09B assembled One owner 69 Z Lemans Blue with the 68 style stripes...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3ePwxMTfSmMdqIGFz8WT_SrVXdl6krYgm79e_NEwsRgULfYpbi p2bVRhEttn6_OFW-fSpRs5Sl--Eeqd8_Vhm33EBZrtvbgLNqg8qllic8X9gwaxJaVWe_cqiO9lmY t0hAtFZ38nHFG0JsP37lCSLtf9A=w1280-h960-no?authuser=0
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cmT8aWnAnTlfKXNo3n4JxNWDymY31a7iVYqCYyQuTeb8SW8bZ 1RpyokJH6HsTPyNvkRGL8wz2dl5e1-31-o0BojH4nPqHwYQh_1lCT4p1LrTreiNTJsi3QPb5oujzwN4V7UF ESXQtyJmggKmxX0T94FA=w1280-h960-no?authuser=0
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3d3VaimClY1YoGVPLHx4URMymQ6U2UXdJRLEG2OCxDG49vo_pl b7EVQadKf3nmH-RZGUoxahXwm6pmvWLVOVS6JW04oNWvdXsA3OY4QnS4YVPi9Jkz 1ipbvoalZdoacdxMng5a9A2HkLPY1eUrmFKikWg=w1280-h960-no?authuser=0
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3dsAijz1JnX74S6Ps42nTEYDosEaLK5-2Y25lGb6gYh_PzHMrC2jGDgPsu1enFFAhHOQQrsJzvHIti2Zae h8MHlAGWzBDlDMtZI5tYvDHLdmgftRWxLp2gDPA9b951G3DEc0 vPm0epRRwQKW7hWdeeo3g=w1280-h960-no?authuser=0
AND here is an 09B NORWOOD
Traditional 69 style stripes
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3f7XYgSr7Rgd5He2Re45EK77ZG9DwBmsNS2ZQJuFV7hf3gv3nL 981AGxgzWj5VRom6RJajBxAlwNYqN8oVAyLijjsI-LlY8lahGQv4V8gxRXFF5_UvmiLcD9VSgLhk7RSeHY6mA_fCNPs 6qobQbsEsuNg=w1550-h1034-no?authuser=0
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3eNuRSeKOedb_WZtP6ogdyp9tx2Yk9pypYhUagbZG54Eay3BYS TJORxofTCxS2QYUFth5TprTSOEIN_M3UFvVsQ9K4W0m1rpkBDs 2sEYRzQySo6BYCWAZHv2SvdCzmJmUImuWIyvqzfuwRATJhElni 8-Q=w1550-h1034-no?authuser=0
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3flRGRmA5x9AT51OBunEZQxNbbZ2Z8YkQNpoFMRucIkPSKt32c Rp9V6jtsOWyj_Hk2GPBR4pQrcZV_d9y0Jz0rr_v-hOIK87fadbytsHdRmAN1jYjH_Ln_OoDoXwOH_Do36PA9UiukWb f1NLPuLNTIoow=w1550-h1034-no?authuser=0
firstgenaddict
05-23-2020, 10:48 PM
The other LA Norwood paint difference I have noticed is the wiper cowl grille stripes -- Norwood they are about 1/4" to the rear of the recess and at LA they follow the recess...
the same 09B LA car -
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3d1221Sgqii_dlS8nhcIny304Ics9ekId2bYhkpIjNKySs-r_uua1V5W-vqQSUcskplRqnflMmFY2xisQp-33uPM6I1PwcA_vUbKabuBoBdCY99j-y6NnuzzaXJ-VT9d4yAtGtpiF6B4N6bLWwOgHj50Q=w1280-h960-no?authuser=0
Original wiper grille off of the Black RS/Z 04C car... the wiper cowl off of my old 10D norwood car is exactly the same.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3cSecc2mtj_nj0OOdITpHo7fde9W7BVMpzRnbLYplGGDnRQRxB puZ1gEDmfLnBfha5Xa4mriU_4ckkCQ-HMABmbZ33_GAmmUcKu9saVRY3zy1TJs2a5n8MRhCiAOdawd8G-yuJkOQeHYDU6q9GvVcsQsw=w1461-h1095-no?authuser=0
I do not believe I have seen an exception to this on any original paint car LA or NOR... someone please correct me if they know any different.
William
05-24-2020, 11:39 AM
Another Van Nuys anomaly is rear striping in the vinyl top configuration. This is technically correct [but non-normative] as there is an error in the AIM dimensioning. Jon Mello has observed this on several original paint cars.
In addition, there is a vintage Hurst ad featuring a '68 Z/28 with the vt striping.
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