Lemans vs GTO window sticker

[ssl78]

I have this Lemans in my garage dressed up like a GTO. My question is according to the original window sticker it has everything a GTO has, so what makes a GTO different other than decals and exhaust turn out.

[442w30]

1971? Edit: 1972 due to the Sport option.

Mike Noun would be a good person to ask. I bet I could find out the answer but it would take me an hour. I bet you're right.

[StealthBird]

You could order specific options on a 1971-1972 LeMans to make it nearly identical to a GTO. In fact, in 1972, the GTO itself became an option on the LeMans.

It looks like whoever ordered your LeMans wanted a GTO, but without the GTO nameplate that would have kicked up their insurance rates. They ordered the Endura Styling Option, 400 4-bbl, G70x14 tires, Springs & Shocks, all part of the GTO package.

Mike

[PeteLeathersac]

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No idea of production #'s but some T41 Endura nose/Scoop Hood Station Wagons were built too.
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~ Pete

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[olredalert]

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No idea of production #'s but some T41 Endura nose/Scoop Hood Station Wagons were built too.
:beers:
~ Pete

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----Had a friend that ordered one new. Always after him to sell it to me but finally it became to run down for me. It was a cool wagon!.....Bill S

[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

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[Lee Stewart]

https://i.postimg.cc/zftZQByt/pontiac-lemans-hardtop-coupe.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Y4WsGtfY)

[StealthBird]

The T41 nose, called the Endura Styling Option, was available on any 1971 LeMans Sport or V8 LeMans wagon. The availability of the Endura nose, which included the GTO hood, really diminished the exclusivity of owning a GTO, but GTO sales were declining.

There were many copycat cars that used body-colored bumpers by 1970, some were urethane coated steel bumpers, some were just painted steel. Pontiac felt that the general public was not aware how different Endura was, so they allowed the GTO nose to be ordered on a LeMans. It was only a $73.72 option in 1971, well worth it in my opinion. In 1972, the Endura Styling Option was further reduced to just a $42.13 option on the LeMans. Later in the year they made it a $41.00 option to coincide with the name T41.

[ssl78]

So do you think this car came with this hood or was it added

[442w30]

If it came with the T41 nose, it came with the hood scoops a la GTO.

EDIT: Chart may not pertain to your car.

[ssl78]

According to your chart there were only 102 Lemans with 400 4 speed is that correct? The car also looks like it was delivered to the over seas department. I can not get it right side up maybe some one else can

[StealthBird]

There were different dealer codes used depending on whether it was a group order (a batch of cars heading overseas) or an individual order. Your car was actually an individual order, not a batch order or replenishment for an overseas distributor.

Actually quite rare. Do you have any other paperwork for the car?

This may have been ordered by someone in the military.

[442w30]

According to your chart there were only 102 Lemans with 400 4 speed is that correct?

The body code shows xx67, so that's convertible. And the transmission column where 102 lies is for all manual trannys, so that's 3-speed and both 4-speeds.

[ssl78]

The car also has buidsheet and PHS. Do we know how many 1972 Lemans coupes had L78 400 with a 4 speed

[442w30]

Right, which means the numbers you asked about don't pertain to your car.

I'm guessing the numbers currently are MIA. I've seen a lot of the docs at the GM Heritage Center and a lot is missing though, admittedly, the info I've scored is disorganized so I'll have to take a deeper dive later to confirm.

Here's what 1971 numbers look like.

[ssl78]

OK thanks