Ceramic wax?

[BJCHEV396]

Being reading about cars being ceramic wax coated.Anyone had it done.Good results and is it worth the cost? Usually around $1200.00.

[jandron]

I just use a good quality wax since ceramic coating is really expensive.

[BJCHEV396]

So do I but just wanted more info on ceramic waxes.

[70 Forest Green Zee]

Most car wax companies are coming out with their own versions of ceramic car waxes...Meguiars has a couple versions which a few of my friends just rave about and they cost about 20 bucks or so. I haven't tried it yet but plan on trying in the near future. The one that has been recommended the most is called Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Liquid wax everyone who has tried it just raves about it!

[olredalert]

----Would you hazard a guess as to weather that Meguiars Hybrid stuff is OK to use on lacquer?......Bill S

[RPOLS3]

Doesn't say much on their website....

https://www.meguiars.com/automotive/products/meguiars-hybrid-ceramic-wax-easy-use-ceramic-wax-protection-g190526-26-oz

[70 Forest Green Zee]

The one my friend likes is the liquid wax not the one in the spray bottle. It looks like this:

Not sure if it's ok on lacquer, you'd have to read the bottle I guess

[MosportGreen66]

Good topic.

I use Adam's detailing products as they have a wide array of products for just about every application and if you catch a sale, there are always good deals. I have Adam's ceramic and ceramic touch up for when I do a day long detail. My method typically looks like this:

-Wash
-Wash/Clay
-Wash
-Treat rubber and wheels
-Polish (micro, macro)
-Seal
-Wax
-Ceramic
-Dress rubbers/tires/polish wheels/glass, etc

From what I've seen even doing a simple wash/clay/wash/wax/ceramic is that the ceramic keeps all treated surfaces contaminate free longer and when you complete your follow up treatments, the process is much easier. Some ceramic coatings claim you'll be swirl and scratch free longer - I suppose this is possible but depends on driving and storage conditions.

I ceramic coat painted surfaces, windows, wheels, chrome, etc. Nice product. There are TONS of Youtube videos about this. Use the free education to your advantage.

Dan

[markinnaples]

Dan, do you know if that is good for lacquer? Thanks for the good info.

[RPOLS3]

In regards to the lacquer question - Stefano may know what was used on his original paint green COPO he brought to MCACN last year,. I happened to be at his shop when it was being detailed and thought I remember the guy said he was using ceramic......? I remember how well the original paint shined up with whatever process was used.

[Crush]

In HS we used pledge....made it very shineee and smelled good too!!

[Xplantdad]

In HS we used pledge....made it very shineee and smelled good too!!


Yep! Worked great...

[A12pilot]

...and Pam on the front bumper during Lovebug season!:cool2:

I had the A12 Bee ceramic coated and man, it sure was nice! Not cheap, but extremely nice and durable.

I’m interested in trying the Meguiars product. Looks pretty nice.

Cheers
Dave

[flyingn]

The megs ceramic wax is a good product. The only issue on light cars you will not be able to see it after you apply it. It flashes off and almost dissapears. In our detailing business we use meguiars ceramic and Proje ceramic wax. https://projeproducts.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjwx9_4BRAHEiwApAt0zklcq8Qmk1KnSXnwrgx 0_6SwfGVAykSOyXNB6hDB2hdRgJQbvUUCFRoC1qcQAvD_BwE

https://projeproducts.com/collections/ceramic-coating-kits/products/ceramic-coating-16oz

[MosportGreen66]

Dan, do you know if that is good for lacquer? Thanks for the good info.

Sorry I do not. I was very hesitant to use anything but a soft pad + Megs 105 + paste wax on my '67 Corvette original paint car after we got it from the second owner. Metal body cars are different because the lacquer cures differently post heating process during factory application. It also responds differently to modern treatments.

Dan

[GrumpyJeff]

I"ve been detailing cars for a living for over 40 years, while all the new ceramic products are hyped as the Latest & Greatest. And I'm sure some are. But an old "Shine Boy" like me is hard to convince its worth the $$$ I'll stick to my Mothers carnuba with a Dewalt palm orbital. Hell I even break out the Turtle wax on my Black motocycles . Just my opinion HaHa

[BJCHEV396]

The voice of experience.....thanks Jeff,lol.

[RPOLS3]

Follow up on this topic.....

We decided to try the Meguiars hybrid ceramic wax on our son's hand me down 2004 GMC Envoy. Mostly original paint - 194k miles. We gave it the back to school clean up and detail last weekend before he heads out this week. Used the clay mitt after we washed it to get it smooth, then a coat of Meguiars NXT Tech wax followed by the ceramic. Turned out pretty good for it's age we will see how it holds up.

I Think we will give it a try on our daily drivers next.

Will advise after Thanksgiving......

[GearheadSS]

Ceramic wax is not the same thing as a ceramic coating.

Ceramic wax is a wax with some sio2 added. It's not expensive and can be used by anyone that has applied wax or polish before. True ceramic coating is a semi permanent coating/sealant that with the proper maintenance, will last for years. It's not necessarily meant to be applied by a novice as the application can be screwed up pretty easily. It also requires that your paint be as perfect as possible before application. The reason is that it won't cover up swirls and scratches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kss8cggQVfo

The ceramic technology is progressing pretty quickly. sio2 was the go to but now it seems that Graphene is the new hotness. Beware though, a lot of this(including the word ceramic) is just a buzzword that makers use. There are good and bad ceramics out there so do your research if this is something you want to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkEst4Z0a3g

[A12pilot]

Excellent description between the two. I just applied that wax to my 911 for the new owner. Easy to use, nice results, but it's hardly a coating like my Bee had.

I'm going to apply it to my two Ram trucks and see how they hold up in Texas bazillion degrees.

Cheers:beers:
Dave

[markinnaples]

My son brought home some new ceramic/wax hybrid product that was pretty amazing on his carbon fiber hood. It's Chemical Guys Hydro Slick Ceramic Coating Hyperwax.
Has anyone tried it here? Definitely going to try it on our Navigator.

[RPOLS3]

As a follow up to this thread - this past weekend I used the Meguiar's spray ceramic wax on our daily drivers. I previously had used their liquid ceramic wax on these same cars. It was really easy to use as directed. Hand washed the cars and while still wet before drying spray the ceramic all over the car - even the windows/trim/etc. Then use a strong stream of water (pressure washer) to rinse off. After you spray on the ceramic wax on you can see the film it creates all over the car - you need a pressure washer to get everything off. Then simply towel dry. I was impressed with the results. Noticeably smoother finish (like a recently waxed car) with additional gloss too. I was able to get two cars done with one spray bottle - which cost about $15.