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big gear head
09-13-2020, 04:20 PM
What is your opinion on this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WkBWSRP7M0

L_e_e
09-13-2020, 04:36 PM
Nacho Libre

x44d80
09-13-2020, 05:27 PM
Air-conditioned car. Not sure about the Dana connection.

cook_dw
09-13-2020, 05:43 PM
Never say never but he needs to do more research and vehicle history work.

jbtech
09-14-2020, 05:12 AM
Time to search my local bushes.

SuperNovaSS
09-14-2020, 05:28 AM
Time to search my local bushes.

Jose,

You are a married man...........


Jason

jbtech
09-14-2020, 05:51 AM
Jose,

You are a married man...........


Jason

haha! Very true. Bushes can be dangerous never know what could fall out and hurt your face, I mean L88's are heavy!

JoeC
09-14-2020, 10:53 AM
the NCRS shipping data report would be helpful

Carleen
09-14-2020, 11:57 AM
If my memory is right
Theres a reportage in a magazine with pictures about Dana where they welding in a Camaro that has AC.
Ill see if I can find it.

1967Z28
09-14-2020, 12:26 PM
I believe an NCRS report was run and it did not come from Dana.

JoeC
09-14-2020, 02:09 PM
this Dana Camaro had AC

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=91568

1967Z28
09-14-2020, 02:24 PM
this Dana Camaro had AC

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=91568

And that car had documentation to back up the conversion, which this other car does not.

SuperNovaSS
09-14-2020, 03:18 PM
The 427 block he shows also is a CE9 block which is for 1969. Never say never, but the puzzle pieces do not seem to be lining up.


Jason

PeteLeathersac
09-14-2020, 08:52 PM
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The video guy seems VERY mixed up or outright lying...is Morgan Fairchild his girlfriend?
I noticed the CE9 Block too and mixed w/ the NON Dana NCRS result pretty much says it all.
:beers:
~ Pete

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jbtech
09-15-2020, 03:24 AM
I believe an NCRS report was run and it did not come from Dana.


It did not. I asked the guy he said it came from a dealer 15 minutes away in El Monte. But he also says the conversion was completed at Dana and it was titled later.

Motorhead848
09-18-2020, 05:06 AM
When I talked to the owner, he also claimed it was the “numbers matching” engine which I said doesn’t make a lot of sense if it’s a CE block. And at the time, there was nothing tying it to dana other a nice story. I wished him luck on the previous owner finding paper work since it will be about the only way to prove it. He seemed a bit uneducated at the time... stay tuned!!

Jamesvaughned
10-09-2020, 11:10 PM
So i'd like to chime in here. As I am the owner of this car if there are any details that are being left out that you are curious about. No I am not lying nor am I uneducated on these cars. The car is still a very big mystery and there is a lot to unfold. I found out about this car through this link of a posting back in 2001 when the car was found in the original owners possession https://www.camaros.net/threads/1968-427-alum-head-need-help.24412/ They had gotten in contact with dick guldstrand and had confirmed a few things on the car such as the matching Mondellos porting service stamping on the heads that was exclusively who Dana dealers used to port cylinder heads. As well as stating CE blocks were used for transplants on these cars. Now as I stated I dont know everything about this car so a lot is a mystery. I was able to find the original owner to this car but have only been able to talk to him through his son as the original owner is blind and is very old. The only information I have gotten is the cars origin which is El monte California sent to dealer R.V Dorweiler Company (as per NCRS report). The car although being a 68 was not titled nor sold until 1969 when then owner had purchased the car brand new. Since getting in contact with them I have not gotten much information other than the car was for sure bought new with the L88 in place and quite possibly a Dana converted car (not originally sent to Dana) (I don't hold my breath because of course paperwork is king, word of mouth is not), being stamped with the mondellos porting service on the head. It is not set in stone as I do not have paperwork. Since my original encounter I have tried numerous times to get more information from the original owner and his son even offering monetary compensation, they keep opening my messages but continue ignoring me. But please dont signify me as a liar. Ive already been offered a fully restored 67 SS Camaro for my heap of a 68. I am not trying to put this car back together for monetary value. I am doing it for myself. This car regardless of what I find out will not leave my possession as it was a car my father have been piecing together parts for, for the past 5 years until he died of terminal brain cancer. I will update you as I find out more information on this car as time goes by. I will also keep making content in strides to make it original and put it back to what it once was, the big question is who the hell put in the L88 before being bought new in 69? I am trying to verify that it was Dana. If it ends up not being Dana, it doesn't matter to me one bit because it will still end up with the same engine that went into the car before being sold brand new. If anyone wants to fact check me on lying I can PM you the name of the private investigator who found the original owner for me. All in good faith I just want to figure out this mystery and hopefully someone has some clues to it still.

Dave Rifkin
10-10-2020, 12:57 PM
Welcome to the site James; sounds like an interesting car. I wish you all the luck in your research; if anyone can help it would be the very knowledgeable folks on this site.

1967Z28
10-10-2020, 03:42 PM
Best of luck with your Dorweiler Camaro. It is obvious from the pictures it started life as a loaded car with A/C, power steering, automatic transmission, and deluxe interior with bench seat. With the tow bar setup seen on the rear bumper, I would bet this Dorweiler Camaro was bought new to be a comfortable cruiser to take a small trailer for a weekend trip to a lake or maybe take an off road motorcycle to the desert rather than to go drag racing. I would bet a hot rod engine and 4-speed was installed by somebody later on. Do you have anything showing the original CA license plate number for the car?

SuperNovaSS
10-10-2020, 05:43 PM
Thanks for taking the time to post. I'm curious how you know the 427 engine you found is the one that came out of this car.


Jason

Jamesvaughned
10-10-2020, 06:27 PM
Best of luck with your Dorweiler Camaro. It is obvious from the pictures it started life as a loaded car with A/C, power steering, automatic transmission, and deluxe interior with bench seat. With the tow bar setup seen on the rear bumper, I would bet this Dorweiler Camaro was bought new to be a comfortable cruiser to take a small trailer for a weekend trip to a lake or maybe take an off road motorcycle to the desert rather than to go drag racing. I would bet a hot rod engine and 4-speed was installed by somebody later on. Do you have anything showing the original CA license plate number for the car? I would think so to, but its also got things that would signify a Dana car. And as the Original owner stated he bought it brand new with the engine and 4 speed already installed. I forgot to include, it does have the numbers matching axel with 3.73s and a posi. (Cant remember the code off the top of my head) but as I said its a mystery. At this point though the original owner has no reason to lie about it. Considering they won't even respond to my messages other than giving me the information that it was brand new with the L88.

Jamesvaughned
10-10-2020, 06:29 PM
Thanks for taking the time to post. I'm curious how you know the 427 engine you found is the one that came out of this car.


Jason
Stamp on pad is correct, casting number is correct. All of it is matching the linked forum posting from 2001. It was also found in the same location the customer lived at the time. Vancouver WA.

Jamesvaughned
10-10-2020, 06:31 PM
Best of luck with your Dorweiler Camaro. It is obvious from the pictures it started life as a loaded car with A/C, power steering, automatic transmission, and deluxe interior with bench seat. With the tow bar setup seen on the rear bumper, I would bet this Dorweiler Camaro was bought new to be a comfortable cruiser to take a small trailer for a weekend trip to a lake or maybe take an off road motorcycle to the desert rather than to go drag racing. I would bet a hot rod engine and 4-speed was installed by somebody later on. Do you have anything showing the original CA license plate number for the car?
And no unfortunately no original plate number. I can post the NCRS report if you guys want it however.

Astock
10-11-2020, 07:18 PM
I would think so to, but its also got things that would signify a Dana car. And as the Original owner stated he bought it brand new with the engine and 4 speed already installed. I forgot to include, it does have the numbers matching axel with 3.73s and a posi. (Cant remember the code off the top of my head) but as I said its a mystery. At this point though the original owner has no reason to lie about it. Considering they won't even respond to my messages other than giving me the information that it was brand new with the L88.

Numbers matching 3:73 posi, with a/c.
I wouldn't think you could have both, but I'm not a numbers guy.

olredalert
10-11-2020, 08:42 PM
----Not quite the same thing but I had a 65 Corvette with paper, 365hp, solid lifter, factory AC and a 4:11 posi rear. All on the original window sticker!.....Bill S

Lee Stewart
10-11-2020, 09:24 PM
Wasn't the 327/365 HP the last solid lifter engine you could get and still order AC. Or is my memory failing me?

RPOLS3
10-11-2020, 10:24 PM
Wasn't the 327/365 HP the last solid lifter engine you could get and still order AC. Or is my memory failing me?

In 1972 you could get an LT-1 with A/C in the Corvette

Lee Stewart
10-11-2020, 10:30 PM
In 1972 you could get an LT-1 with A/C in the Corvette

How about the 1972 Z/28?

1967Z28
10-12-2020, 04:40 AM
1973 was the first year A/C was available in the Z and it was no longer an LT-1.

olredalert
10-12-2020, 02:54 PM
Wasn't the 327/365 HP the last solid lifter engine you could get and still order AC. Or is my memory failing me?

----Yes, Lee! In this case it's the 4:11 gear that's unusual, but 365 AC Corvettes are extremely rare. I have only seen 4 or 5.....Bill S

SPEEDYB
10-13-2020, 01:04 PM
I was fortunate to own a 365 hp w/ac roadster that I purchased from a friend of mine about 10 years ago, white w/ white interior and tan conv top, telescoping column w/walnut wheel special exhaust, was quite a car. Small Block Corvettes rule! He told me at that time that he thought only 9 were made.In a corvette you can’t get power steering w/the 365 hp engine because 6 quart oil pan wouldn’t clear the ram, but the car was loaded w everything else, p/w p/b etc

olredalert
10-13-2020, 10:46 PM
I was fortunate to own a 365 hp w/ac roadster that I purchased from a friend of mine about 10 years ago, white w/ white interior and tan conv top, telescoping column w/walnut wheel special exhaust, was quite a car. Small Block Corvettes rule! He told me at that time that he thought only 9 were made.In a corvette you can’t get power steering w/the 365 hp engine because 6 quart oil pan wouldn’t clear the ram, but the car was loaded w everything else, p/w p/b etc

----Speedy,,,What gear did your 365 have, and was it original. Sounds like a really cool 65. I'm real partial to white on white as I have a 67 coupe that color that's been featured on members rides here on my favorite sight!!!.....Bill S

SPEEDYB
10-14-2020, 06:29 AM
4:10 gear, as I remember the rosewood wheel was the only non orig. part
my friend also removed the 6 qt. pan to fit power steering. The car had to be kept in perfect tune with all the timing you could give it and good gas or it would run hot because the cooling system was so marginal with the A/C, I have an old photo of it somewhere.