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68SS496
10-06-2020, 06:01 PM
Im currently in the market for a 69 Chevelle SS in Lemans Blue..I came across this one on the internet and was wondering if you guys think it could be original and worth what hes asking..The seller says it is ( mostly) original, and it looks like it could be, but there are so many scammers out there... there is also a build sheet that looks to be original he sent me as well..

https://topnotchvehicles.com/gallery/1969-chevrolet-chevelle-396-super-sport/


Seems to be the same vehicle on here too...which shows a copy of the build sheet

https://www.viccicarauctions.com/detail/1969-chevrolet-chevelle-ss-140487

Lee Stewart
10-06-2020, 06:13 PM
Hoods pins and no AIR - yep - they are the same car.

olredalert
10-06-2020, 06:38 PM
----Not a bad 69 but I think you can do better in this market......Bill S

68SS496
10-06-2020, 06:43 PM
----Not a bad 69 but I think you can do better in this market......Bill S

Do you mean do better on price or a better car??

I have been looking for about a month and havent really found much that I am interested in... I am only interested in buying a 69 Lemans Blue SS .

olredalert
10-06-2020, 06:45 PM
----One or the other or both. A bit harder if you are looking for a specific color......Bill S

Bill Pritchard
10-06-2020, 09:19 PM
You've been looking for a month? I've been looking for a 69 Chevelle SS for 8 years and still haven't found what I want, but I have a very specific must-have list.

A dead giveaway that it's the same car in both of your links is the strange woodgrain panel above the radio. It's unfortunate that the block has been decked. Does the build sheet indicate the D96 Sport Striping as a factory option? If so, then the car has probably been repainted because it would have originally had a white stripe. If not, then the striping could have been added after the car was originally built. At any rate, the build sheet is certainly a great thing to have, provided it's real.

68SS496
10-06-2020, 09:53 PM
You've been looking for a month? I've been looking for a 69 Chevelle SS for 8 years and still haven't found what I want, but I have a very specific must-have list.

A dead giveaway that it's the same car in both of your links is the strange woodgrain panel above the radio. It's unfortunate that the block has been decked. Does the build sheet indicate the D96 Sport Striping as a factory option? If so, then the car has probably been repainted because it would have originally had a white stripe. If not, then the striping could have been added after the car was originally built. At any rate, the build sheet is certainly a great thing to have, provided it's real.

Yes, it is the same car in both the links, I know that for a fact, just the one link gave some different pictures...

yes the build sheet does indicate a D96 Accent stripe. From my research the stripe would be black on this car since it has a black vinyl top. It would be white if it did not have the black vinyl roof.

The build sheet does look real, alot of it isnt legible ... If it is fake they did a damn good job ..haha... there are sections of it missing and alot of rusty dark color , it definitly looks like the real ones i have seen before...

I just started looking actually and its been awhile since i was in the market for a classic car and im amazed on how things changed... There are definintly alot less to choose from now than there were 10 years ago when i bought my 68 camaro..


I am looking for pretty specific car as well, so that does make it harder... Lemans blue, black vinyl top, parchment interior, 4 speed, L78...that would be ideal, but most likely not going to find that...So i will have to settle on something close and change it if i have to.

Lee Stewart
10-06-2020, 10:45 PM
Is that the top end of your budget? $50K. Do you care about all the date codes being correct or are you just looking for a solid driver? A Cars & Coffee show car.

68SS496
10-06-2020, 11:11 PM
Im not really particular about it being date coded correct, that would be super hard to find and out of my budget...Mostly looking for a nice driver..

My dad ordered one when he was 21 in November of 68.. He had it delivered on Dec 18, 1968 ...Unfortunately, like most people he had to sell in it 1972 due to his upcoming marriage to my mom and needed money...Since I was a little kid he was always telling me stories about that car , street racing it against his buddies in other cars, taking it to the track etc etc... Those stories always stuck with me and I always wanted to get back his car and give it to him. He is 73 now and I'd like to find something similar as he had and give it to him so he can drive it again, while he still can. Ive tried desperately to find his actual Chevelle, but every avenue is a dead end.. Since I have the VIN ,I got information from the DMV but all that came back was an old encumbrance from 1983 and the gentleman doesnt live at that address anymore, and i cant seem to find a valid phone number. He still has the carbon copy of the sales sheet stashed away with leftover parts he had from the car that he is still keeping. This is how he ordered it... and what Im trying to duplicate

A51 - strato bucket seats
A82 - head restraints
C08 - Vinyl roof cover/Black
D55- Center console
G80- posi traction
G84 - 4.10 rear axle
L78 - 375Hp 396
M21- 4 speed close ratio
N40 - power steeering
U35- Electric clock
U80- AM push button radio
Z25- SS 396 package
791- Parchment / black vinyl trim
924- 71-71 Lemans Blue

Bill Pritchard
10-07-2020, 12:36 AM
My bad on the stripe color, since I do not want a vinyl top I wasn't familiar with the nuances of stripe color with different vinyl top colors. I really don't think the car you linked in this post is terribly overpriced, and it seems to have a lot going for it. If it's as nice as it's being advertised to be and you could get it for around $42 - $45K I think you'd be OK. Nice that it still has all the original interior, and now with the stripe color not being an issue, the possibility of at least partial original paint is also a plus for the type of car you're looking for. The 350hp 396 is still a fairly strong engine but not as fussy as the 375hp. Very cool that you're trying to find something close to your dad's old car. Your dad is only 4 yrs older than me and Lord knows I still love getting out and going thru the gears, so hopefully he will get to enjoy it too.

The OO of my convertible ordered it in late November of 68 and she took delivery of it on January 17, 1969, so close to the same time frame as your dad's car :)

L_e_e
10-07-2020, 01:25 AM
Im not really particular about it being date coded correct, that would be super hard to find and out of my budget...Mostly looking for a nice driver..

My dad ordered one when he was 21 in November of 68.. He had it delivered on Dec 18, 1968 ...Unfortunately, like most people he had to sell in it 1972 due to his upcoming marriage to my mom and needed money...Since I was a little kid he was always telling me stories about that car , street racing it against his buddies in other cars, taking it to the track etc etc... Those stories always stuck with me and I always wanted to get back his car and give it to him. He is 73 now and I'd like to find something similar as he had and give it to him so he can drive it again, while he still can. Ive tried desperately to find his actual Chevelle, but every avenue is a dead end.. Since I have the VIN ,I got information from the DMV but all that came back was an old encumbrance from 1983 and the gentleman doesnt live at that address anymore, and i cant seem to find a valid phone number. He still has the carbon copy of the sales sheet stashed away with leftover parts he had from the car that he is still keeping. This is how he ordered it... and what Im trying to duplicate

A51 - strato bucket seats
A82 - head restraints
C08 - Vinyl roof cover/Black
D55- Center console
G80- posi traction
G84 - 4.10 rear axle
L78 - 375Hp 396
M21- 4 speed close ratio
N40 - power steeering
U35- Electric clock
U80- AM push button radio
Z25- SS 396 package
791- Parchment / black vinyl trim
924- 71-71 Lemans Blue

I you would like, PM the information on your fathers car, I like a good challenge.

olredalert
10-07-2020, 03:20 AM
----As it happens I am 73 but we have never had any kids. It would have been something to have a kid who cared enough to think like you are thinking. Hope I didn't seem harsh with my comments as they were well meant. I'll keep an eye out as probably some of the guys and hopefully we will be able to help!.....Bill S

Woj
10-07-2020, 11:47 AM
I'm in agreement with Bill's pricing on the car. It has a lot going for it which has already been discussed, but the block being decked is a big draw back to me. It seems like everyone I know that had a 350hp 69 SS had major engine problems that required a rebuild back in the day (my brother being one of them). Maybe this one was no different and created the need to deck the block.

If you wanted to bring this closer back to original with a correct shifter, smog system and brake master cylinder, you are looking at another 3K - 4K to do all that. Maybe more. I'm not a fan of the hood pins either, but if is truly original paint, you'd pretty much have to leave them alone.

A very nice car overall, but a bit over priced in my opinion.

68SS496
10-07-2020, 12:03 PM
----As it happens I am 73 but we have never had any kids. It would have been something to have a kid who cared enough to think like you are thinking. Hope I didn't seem harsh with my comments as they were well meant. I'll keep an eye out as probably some of the guys and hopefully we will be able to help!.....Bill S

Bill... no problem, no offense taken, as I didnt find any of your comments to be harsh..

I appreciate all the comments and help with this car and to try to find my dads....Jeff

68SS496
10-07-2020, 12:09 PM
I'm in agreement with Bill's pricing on the car. It has a lot going for it which has already been discussed, but the block being decked is a big draw back to me. It seems like everyone I know that had a 350hp 69 SS had major engine problems that required a rebuild back in the day (my brother being one of them). Maybe this one was no different and created the need to deck the block.

If you wanted to bring this closer back to original with a correct shifter, smog system and brake master cylinder, you are looking at another 3K - 4K to do all that. Maybe more. I'm not a fan of the hood pins either, but if is truly original paint, you'd pretty much have to leave them alone.

A very nice car overall, but a bit over priced in my opinion.

Im not as concerned about the deck being blocked. It would be nice if it wasnt so I could be sure it is the original engine,due to the asking price, but Im not looking for a 100% factory car. I dont care about the smog, or shifter either really, as my dad put a hurst shifter in his as well...

It would be nice to have it all factory correct, but at my price point I cant expect that to happen, as I know most people took off the smog stuff back in the day and changed shifters..etc.. so im OK with the mild "day 2" mods... The biggest drawback for me is the hood pins, I think they look terrible.

I agree with it being a bit overpriced... I was thinking more around the 40-45k range at most...

fsc66
10-07-2020, 01:05 PM
Can you post a better copy of the build sheet? The one I see posted is too blurry

Paul

68SS496
10-07-2020, 01:18 PM
can you post a better copy of the build sheet? The one i see posted is too blurry

paul

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EZ Nova
10-07-2020, 01:55 PM
Im not really particular about it being date coded correct, that would be super hard to find and out of my budget...Mostly looking for a nice driver..

My dad ordered one when he was 21 in November of 68.. He had it delivered on Dec 18, 1968 ...Unfortunately, like most people he had to sell in it 1972 due to his upcoming marriage to my mom and needed money...Since I was a little kid he was always telling me stories about that car , street racing it against his buddies in other cars, taking it to the track etc etc... Those stories always stuck with me and I always wanted to get back his car and give it to him. He is 73 now and I'd like to find something similar as he had and give it to him so he can drive it again, while he still can. Ive tried desperately to find his actual Chevelle, but every avenue is a dead end.. Since I have the VIN ,I got information from the DMV but all that came back was an old encumbrance from 1983 and the gentleman doesnt live at that address anymore, and i cant seem to find a valid phone number. He still has the carbon copy of the sales sheet stashed away with leftover parts he had from the car that he is still keeping. This is how he ordered it... and what Im trying to duplicate

A51 - strato bucket seats
A82 - head restraints
C08 - Vinyl roof cover/Black
D55- Center console
G80- posi traction
G84 - 4.10 rear axle
L78 - 375Hp 396
M21- 4 speed close ratio
N40 - power steeering
U35- Electric clock
U80- AM push button radio
Z25- SS 396 package
791- Parchment / black vinyl trim
924- 71-71 Lemans Blue

Understand your story about your dad very well. I'm going through the same "sorta" as my did wasn't able to buy HIS car. Heard the story from my brother who dad told him a few times. Spoke to my dad about it in 2017 before he passed and asked why he never mentioned it to me! His response "YOUR the car guy of the family. AND you would go and do WHATEVER to get it, and at this time you can't really justify buying one!"

Dad liked the '67 427 'Vette with side pipes. Wanted to buy one in 1967 BUT with with my brother being 6 and me born in '66 and with dad being the only driver and only 1 car family, he couldn't justify a 2 seater for family of 4. So he bought a Sport Fury. Dad always wanted a Vette. We looked at a few over the years and got to the point in 2017 were we was talking the the dealer had 5 in stock. So I said, "LET'S GO"! Loaded up dad, mom and myself and drove over. I said pick one. The sales guy came out and asked what we thought. I said to dad, "pick one, get the keys and go for a drive"! I looked at the sales guy and said looks like were buying a Vette today. THEY will take it out since dad lost his license so my mom will drive." When they go back, dad couldn't get out of it on his own, and that ended my dads Vette saga.

BUT I am keeping a eye out for a '67 in his honor. My 2 1/2 yrs old son is CAR CRAZY so maybe he will follow my lead..............

68SS496
10-07-2020, 02:08 PM
Here are some pics of dads old chevelle along with sales sheets... The pictures were in a flood in 1972, so some of the areas arent that great but for the most part they are ok..
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175651

175652

175653

175654

175655

175656

175657

L_e_e
10-07-2020, 02:11 PM
----As it happens I am 73 but we have never had any kids. It would have been something to have a kid who cared enough to think like you are thinking. Hope I didn't seem harsh with my comments as they were well meant. I'll keep an eye out as probably some of the guys and hopefully we will be able to help!.....Bill S

Bill, just wanted to let you know that I am available for adoption....

RPOLS3
10-07-2020, 05:56 PM
What a cool car - and great pictures and paperwork too. Try and find someone (law enforcement) with access to do a search for the VIN to see where it might be today.

ZiggyL78
10-08-2020, 06:25 AM
Cool car. I was around then and just don't remember so many muscle cars with white walls.

BLACKLS5
10-08-2020, 11:43 AM
Cool car. I was around then and just don't remember so many muscle cars with white walls.

My father had a similar '69 L78 in '69-'70. Lemans Blue, black vinyl top but black interior and an automatic. We have an old blurry polaroid pic of my father, me on my tri-cycle and the trophy he had just one at a little drag strip in Middle Point, Oh. His also had white walls.