1969 Z on ebay

[chevyandpontiac]

This seems like a nice car for the money?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro/133537339587?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO .FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3Dc47 c5fe418704bb8bf1b1d69b6c878d9%26pid%3D100651%26rk% 3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dpp%26itm%3D133537339587%26 pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057%26algv%3DPersonal izedTopicsRefactor%26brand%3D&_trksid=p2380057.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3Afc6f9954-1a2b-11eb-8113-9a8c91a8126b%7Cparentrq%3A7637eefc1750ad4eb18c6fe7 fffbfcee%7Ciid%3A3

[Postsedan]

I believe you‘re about to have a Mid Life Crisis :)

Dan

[olredalert]

----It kinda depends. If you can live without the smog equipment it would be OK as that will cost some coin. There's other stuff like the dipstick and tube that aren't that big a deal, but you get where I'm going. Do your homework and by all means call in an expert to go over it. If you need recomendations just ask here and someone will point you in the right direction.......Bill S

[chevyandpontiac]

Thanks Bill. I kind felt that people would share their thoughts. I was actually hoping some here knew the car or the owner

[Jonesy]

This same guy sold a Lemans Blue with White houndstooth z/28 a couple months ago for $37,500 buy it now. Had a CE engine, but was very legit.
I think that was a deal.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro/133505584435?hash=item1f158d8d33:g:dkIAAOSw3NBfSaC 5

Hes about an hour and 15 minutes from me. I would want to see what the driveline stampings and how many expensive components are here.
Alternator, Distributor, Carb, Radiator, Wheels are a few things that easily can add up to $6000 or more.

[MosportGreen66]

Incorrect color on grille. Z-28 had silver grilles, not black. Always loved Cortez Silver color on 69 Camaro Z-28. Dont like vinyl roofs period either.

I thought this: Copy/Paste from William via Camaros.org... "Most RS grilles were molded in black as that was the standard color. However a factory black RS would have an argent grille; those were molded in the same off-white plastic and painted argent."

[sixt9rsx33]

I expect that this car started out as a non RS car. Wiper motor not correct, headlight doors don't close anywhere near as they should. I would expect if you look hard there are a ton of other items wrong.

[ZLP955]

Worth checking what seller defines “matching numbers” to mean.

[JRSully]

That was a killer deal on that CE engine Z, Killer

[chevyandpontiac]

I am talking to the owner, What the red flags that I should look for and ask for pictures of.

[Postsedan]

https://spudsgarage.com/archives/69ChevCamaroJB/index.htm

Dan

[Postsedan]

http://classiccardb.com/chevrolet/112298-1969-chevy-camaro-z-28-rs-rally-sport-x33-d80-cortez-silver.html

Dan

[Postsedan]

http://topclassiccarsforsale.com/chevrolet/607606-camaro-z28-rs-fully-restored.html

Dan

[Jonesy]

Well it doesnt look like it has any drivetrain thats original to the car.
I guess I would verify that. If thats true its not worth what hes asking, IMO.
Block Suffix: NA Decked, Stamp: NA Decked Cast: 3970010 Date: Not Accessible During Inspection

Cylinder Heads: Double Hump Heads (#'s not checked)

Intake Manifold: 3932472 = GM Aluminum 4bbl (Z-28, F Hi Rise)

Carburetor: 3932876 DZ LIST 4053 (Z-28 application)

Transmission: Cast 3925661 Muncie 4 Speed (Late Production-Non Match Vin)

Rear Differential: Stamp BV 1227G1 "E" (4.10 Ratio -12-Bolt Eaton Posi-Trac)

[Jonesy]

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[cruiserofland]

RS Z grills are black unless it's a black paint car. Looks like ZL2 hood was added since the cowl flap isn't wired up. Fender droop and panel gaps esp on driver side are kinda rough, but all in all looks like a nice driver. I don't know enough to weigh in on the trim tag. Looks like a repaint based on how far down the stripes go on the cowl.

[Lynn]

I think the trim tag is good, just a bit beat up. Better pic would make it easier to confirm.

Car has a lot going for it, but as stated, not likely an RS to start with, and definitely not the original trans or rear. Some guys don't care about all that. Most do.

At least they are up front about the block being decked. It is STILL POSSIBLE to verify it as being the original block, but ONLY IF the partial vin down by the oil filter is readable. Big if.

Wrong exhaust manifolds. Given the rest of the history, I would be shocked if it had the original distributor, starter and alt.

[ZLP955]

At least they are up front about the block being decked.
Hmm. Not so fast. Maybe you’re referring to some of the other ad links posted by Dan later in this thread, but in the current eBay listing (the posted link that began this thread) the seller’s description states:
1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 X33D80
Very nice high quality -Accurate Vehicle
* 302 Matching #s
* 410 Posi Matching #s
* Muncie M21 Close ration transmission - non matching

Says nothing about being decked, and implies only the trans is non-OE to the car.

[ZLP955]

Also, 2 of those ads that do mention the block being decked list the car’s location as Fresno CA, but per eBay, it is currently offered for sale in Wisconsin.
So if it was bought in Fresno and now being flipped in Wisconsin, the seller is presumably aware of the decked block, yet lists it as ‘matching numbers’. Tread carefully and ask questions if serious about the car.

[Lynn]

You are correct Tim. What I SHOULD have said was: "at least a previous seller was up front about the block being decked."

If the current seller restamped it, ... well, that's a serious problem.

At least we have enough to go on to know the trans and rear are not original. Are they NOW claiming the 4.10 rear is matching? 12 27 rear doesn't work in a late 69 built car.