Claimed #s '67 Chevelle L78

[scuncio]

What do you guys think about the pad? I kinda dig the original red interior...which looks to be all GM.

Link to 1967 Chevelle L78 auction (https://ebay.to/2VZqFAu)

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[WILMASBOYL78]

We had a 67 SS396 and the pad stamp didn't look like that...the '7' was offset, kind of askew from the other numbers. Ours was a Fremont built vehicle, maybe each plant was different ?? It doesn't look right to me based on others I have seen...but I know we have experts here who can sort it out....like Mike Crown.

The rally wheels would have meant disc brakes, yes?? Our car had drums with steelies and caps...

The white and red combo is sharp...always like that look.

Last question, why the backyard style carb/intake...if I owned a car like this it would have the correct parts in place.

-wilma

[olredalert]

----No broach marks,,,no good! Add to that the cast iron intake,,,really!.....Bill S

[67since67]

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[L78M22Rag]

I agree with Wilma. I've never seen a '67 VIN stamp on a deck that was lined up properly like that. Coincidence that they got this one straight? I doubt it.

Strange lines on the deck surface... almost looks like it was painted with a brush. I'd want to see it with the paint carefully removed, but I suspect there are no broach marks.

[luzl78]

Up to 40,000. Winning bidder should be pissed off that it’s not real.

[67since67]

The specific to L35 only (396/325) radiator gives hint to the car's origins, but credit Jeff Helms usual logic as to why an oval port, 2 bolt engine would be re-stamped "EG".

Al Colvin's CHEVROLET BY THE NUMBERS incorrectly lists The L34 (396/350 EF engine code) as "EG", which in reality is the code for L78 (396/375). Meaning that whom ever was attempting to upgrade this car to L34 status (appears to have an Edelbrock carb with square bore intake as opposed to Q-Jet) relied on incorrect info, and now it is being passed off as the Holy Grail L78.

Bill W

[Too Many Projects]

The block pad stood out immediately, but I wanted to see what others said. The deck appears to be at, or lower, than the water pump gasket, which would indicate it having been machined, "to remove rust and defects".. right ???


Any buyer should see this disclaimer as a huge red flag, but it is way at the bottom of the, very lengthy, description.


TERMS:
Notice To Bidders: High Bidder To Send $700.00 Non-Refundable Deposit Within 24 Hours Of The Close Of This Auction. Funds To Be Paid With Certified Check, Bank Transfer, Or Cash In Person Within 5 Days Of Auction Ending. All Sales Final. Mileage Is Exempt.
The Sale Is Subject To The Following Conditions And Representations
This Vehicle Is Being Sold As Is, Where Is With No Warranty In Connection Therewith. The Seller Shall Not Be Responsible For The Correct Description, Authenticity, Genuineness, Or Defects Herein, And Make No Warranty In Connection Therewith. No Allowances Or Set Aside Will Be Made On Account Of Any Incorrectness, Imperfection, Defect Or Damage. Any Descriptions Or Representations Are For Identification Purposes Only And Are Not To Be Construed As A Warranty Of Any Type. It Is The Responsibility Of The Buyer To Have Thoroughly Inspected The Vehicle, And To Have Satisfied Himself Or Herself As To The Condition And Value Based Upon That Judgment Solely. Seller Assumes No Responsibility For Any Repairs Regardless Of Any Oral Statements About The Vehicle.

[jeffschevelle]

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I asked the seller for pics of the oil line holes to verify what I already knew (I saw pics of this car several years ago, unless there is another white one with an L34 stamped EG). See below. 2 bolt main. So definitely not an L78 block.

[jeffschevelle]

We had a 67 SS396 and the pad stamp didn't look like that...the '7' was offset, kind of askew from the other numbers. Ours was a Fremont built vehicle, maybe each plant was different ?? It doesn't look right to me based on others I have seen...but I know we have experts here who can sort it out....like Mike Crown.

I agree with Wilma. I've never seen a '67 VIN stamp on a deck that was lined up properly like that. Coincidence that they got this one straight? I doubt it.

Gang stamped VIN would be OK for this Atlanta car built in that late production time frame. But the Tonawanda stamp is bogus for several reasons (in addition to this being a 2-bolt block).

67's were in a transitional period on the engine VIN stamps. One Chevelle plant used a gang holder the entire model year. Every other Chevelle plant individually stamped each digit at the beginning of the year. By the end of the year every Chevelle plant had switched to gang holders for the entire VIN stamp, except Fremont. I have an extensive library of photos of legit original stamps and can pin down (within a few weeks) the changeover date for each plant (except Framingham which there are so few surviving examples to refer to). Makes it much harder to sneak a fake by me!!

Fremont actually had 4 or 5 different formats during the course of 67 production, and during part of the year they actually gang stamped 7 1234, and then hand stamped the Z in the space and hand stamped the last two digits of the sequence # !! And it is common in that time frame to see the 4th digit of the sequence # overstamped with another number too, when the car got assigned a VIN in the next group of 100 higher than what had been gang stamped on the engine. Lotsa weird stuff happened at Fremont!

[scuncio]

This thread sure ended up being a great source of esoteric '67 info. As for the claimed L78 car, it was bid to $45k the last time around, with the reserve not met, and has been relisted in the link below:

Link to 1967 Chevelle auction (http://ebay.to/2KczS6p)

[67since67]

The previous auction ending at $45,100 is way beyond all the money for that car IMHO.
Sad thing is, there's a good chance that it really has the original block, but spoiled by decking and stamping it as something it isn't. :rolleyes2:

Bill W

[jeffschevelle]

He did remove "L78" from his description after I replied that it was a restamp and a 2-bolt block so could not be an L78. But he left the 375HP references and the "numbers matching" references. That's like putting a bandaid on a shotgun wound!

[scuncio]

Here we go again...a no-sale for $46k and change the last time around, and relisted in the link below.

Link to 1967 Chevelle auction (http://ebay.to/3hfeYzB)

[olredalert]

----Even right now the car is over what it's worth! Take it and run.....Bill S

[Too Many Projects]

RUNS AND DRIVES AND SHFITS PERFECT…EXTREMELY NICE DRVING CAR!


It sh-fits perfect all right...
Still insisting it's number matching engine with the wrong block casting. Must have been a Monday morning screw up at the engine factory, eh ?

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

Shill bidding I suspect or Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles bidding against each other

[scuncio]

I agree the bidding must be between friends...this one has been relisted, again, with bidding already over $40k....

Link to 1967 Chevelle auction (http://ebay.to/2KNzBXP)

[scuncio]

Here she is again...with a $51k buy-it-now.

Link to 1967 Chevelle auction (https://ebay.to/3rqc2n1)