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WorkinProgress
12-12-2020, 09:21 PM
Is there anyone that can reproduce an original 1969 black California plate off an original with the same letters and numbers, and make it out of steel?

I checked some Internet businesses and they will only make it out of aluminum.


- Warren

Lee Stewart
12-12-2020, 09:34 PM
Before you waste time and money you better check with the California DMV to see if what you want to do is legal.

WorkinProgress
12-12-2020, 09:42 PM
Hopefully someone on this site will know if it is legal.

My Z/28 has one original plate on it from brand new. Since the nose has been replaced with another nose off another car back in the '70s, I assume the original front plate was destroyed.

I know there are no issues with the plate I have with the car, as I have registrations from California with that plate number.

- Warren

Mr70
12-12-2020, 09:46 PM
What's wrong with one made from Aluminum that's embossed?
It will be painted black/yellow,no one will tell the difference.

MJV1953
12-12-2020, 09:47 PM
Warren,
I found this person on ebay "thekomat" who perfectly reproduced 2 California black plates for me out of steel with the numbers and letters I wanted. I read his feedback and it was great so did the bid with him to make them. They can out perfect. He lives in Berlin, Germany but it was worth the wait and cost.

Mike

WorkinProgress
12-12-2020, 09:55 PM
What's wrong with one made from Aluminum that's embossed?
It will be painted black/yellow,no one will tell the difference.


I was told if the car is ever registered in California with original plates, they check to see if they are made of steel.

- Warren

WorkinProgress
12-12-2020, 09:57 PM
Warren,
I found this person on ebay "thekomat" who perfectly reproduced 2 California black plates for me out of steel with the numbers and letters I wanted. I read his feedback and it was great so did the bid with him to make them. They can out perfect. He lives in Berlin, Germany but it was worth the wait and cost.

Mike.

Mike,

I will check him out.

- Warren

Mr70
12-12-2020, 10:04 PM
I was told if the car is ever registered in California with original plates, they check to see if they are made of steel.

- Warren


Ah,I thought you were doing it for show/display purposes only.

PeteLeathersac
12-12-2020, 10:18 PM
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Have you considered trying to make one yourself?
I picked up the below Plates on holidays, Blue Curaçao one real and a lucky score but Red one homemade by a lad on a Cuban beach.
Note backside pic shows marks from the squared off bolts he was hitting w/ a hammer, I could've had something cool made but had to catch a bus so bought this one for a few Pesos.
It's far from perfect and you could do better w/ practise also if illegal, you may be making them for the State anyway so could run off a few real ones?:shocked:
:beers:
~ Pete

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WorkinProgress
12-12-2020, 10:22 PM
Pete,

I am going to try and find someone who can make a perfect copy out of steel.

- Warren

Burd
12-12-2020, 10:26 PM
I met a guy here that makes plates. And no, he’s not in prison lol

Lee Stewart
12-12-2020, 10:47 PM
Year-of-manufacture plates

The use of year-of-manufacture (YOM) plates is authorized by Section 5004.1 of the California Motor Vehicle Code. It is a law that allows vintage cars to be registered to use vintage license plates. Any officially manufactured California license plates which were produced prior to 1963 can be used on a currently registered vehicle or trailer of a corresponding model year. If used on the original plate, a sticker or metal tab that corresponds to the year of the vehicle is required.

In July 2009, California extended its YOM program to include passenger vehicles from 1963 to 1969, and commercial vehicles (pick-ups, etc.) through 1972. Any black-and-gold plate from this era may be used on these vehicles, as long as they are "clear" with the DMV (i.e., not used, reported stolen, or any records found, for the last 10 years). A valid sticker must be attached to the plate corresponding to the year of the vehicle that is to be registered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_California#Optional _types_(specialty_plates)

California makes it's plates out of Aluminum not Steel. A steel plate would be illegal.

What you need to do is take your registration to the DMV and explain to them that your front plate was "destroyed" in a prior accident and you need to have a as-like front plate made for you by the California DMV.

Or . . . just get an aluminum one made up by a 3rd party and deal with the butt-hurt. :grin:

WorkinProgress
12-12-2020, 11:10 PM
I just went and took off the original black license plate which starts with a Z which is close to the end run of those plates. A magnet sticks to the plate. Possibly the blue plates they started using in 1970 were made out of aluminum.

- Warren

ELEFUNTMAN
12-12-2020, 11:25 PM
Original black and yellow California plates are steel. DMV only needs to do an inspection if you are bringing the car in from out of state, once it’s registered and titled here, they don’t have “annual” inspections.

68 DANA
12-13-2020, 01:09 AM
Warren - check this out. You can get "new" black license plates or your original ones "replaced" from California DMV...under the option of "1960 LEGACY" ....see the links below.

I hope this helps....


https://instamotor.com/driving-tips/californias-black-license-plates

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-registration/license-plates-decals-and-placards/california-license-plates/order-special-interest-and-personalized-license-plates/

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/ipp2/initSeq.do?Submit=Order+Sequential+Plate

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/uploads/2020/06/reg17.pdf

SPEEDYB
12-13-2020, 01:22 AM
Black plates are steel, Blue plates, some steel some aluminum,
My 73 240z has orig steel blue plates, my 70 z28 has aluminum blue plates.
The new Black plates are made with a personal number/letter or sequential,
but the color has alot of red in it looks nothing like orig black plates.
YOM or year of Mfg plates are big buisness in Ca and thats how we put Orig
plates on our 60s cars, plenty of legit dealers, also plates in Ca must be in pairs,
no value in single plates,Dealers also guarantee that the plates are "clear" or available to
register on your vehicle. The few people that restamp are a shifty bunch,and the "font" is never exactly correct.

njsteve
12-13-2020, 02:32 AM
This company makes reproductions of any state/country plate, but as you indicated in aluminum.

I used them to get the "TV-77" 1971 New York plates for my grandpa's 1971 Lincoln.

https://www.licenseplates.tv/?matchtype=e&network=g&device=c&keyword=license%20plates%20tv&campaign=1691996100&adgroup=66028053095&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrJeqnILK7QIVBaGGCh3mzgdCEAAYASAA EgJPivD_BwE

68 DANA
12-13-2020, 03:03 AM
This company makes reproductions of any state/country plate, but as you indicated in aluminum.

I used them to get the "TV-77" 1971 New York plates for my grandpa's 1971 Lincoln.

https://www.licenseplates.tv/?matchtype=e&network=g&device=c&keyword=license%20plates%20tv&campaign=1691996100&adgroup=66028053095&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrJeqnILK7QIVBaGGCh3mzgdCEAAYASAA EgJPivD_BwE


Licenseplates.tv use to make the black California style license plate many years ago but have since discontinued the service.

parkbrau
12-13-2020, 07:15 AM
If you do go with this guy https://www.ebay.com/itm/California-1963-Black-License-Plates-Mopar-Hemi-THC-426-1967-pair/174486524362?hash=item28a03511ca:g:Os0AAOSwYMxfbKS W Let me know. I can prolly save you a few scheckles. BUt I would also check with CA DMV as stated, they might be able to make you a duplicate.

Jonesy
12-13-2020, 11:50 AM
The guy in Germany has really good looking plates.

dannystarr
12-13-2020, 05:30 PM
The times I have gone to the CA DMV to use the YOM procedure, I HAD to have both plates. I had to have them with me for inspection, and they had to be made of steel. IF they were steel to begin with... They took both plates to a back room and made photo copies of them, to prove there were two. It just so happened that both of my plates looked very close { NOT to me } so the picture I sent in for the YOM did not pass. They thought I photo shopped the same plate in next to the other. So I drove to the Napa, CA DMV with both plates. The picture went through the system and I got the registration and stickers in the mail in about 2 weeks. I was also told it was illegal to have a 3rd party make a plate to match. As we have all found out, there are many single plates out in the world. That new plate making program looks nothing like originals, don't like it. ... Danny

randy27
12-14-2020, 03:05 AM
Warren - check this out. You can get "new" black license plates or your original ones "replaced" from California DMV...under the option of "1960 LEGACY" ....see the links below.

I hope this helps....


https://instamotor.com/driving-tips/californias-black-license-plates

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-registration/license-plates-decals-and-placards/california-license-plates/order-special-interest-and-personalized-license-plates/

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/ipp2/initSeq.do?Submit=Order+Sequential+Plate

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/uploads/2020/06/reg17.pdf
Those are interesting plates!

WorkinProgress
12-14-2020, 10:38 PM
Thanks to all that chimed in with info for me to digest.

Just thought it would be nice to have a matching plate that the Z/28 had on it when new. Been thinking about this for over 25 years.

Do not think I would go the route of the reissue black plates from California as from what I have been told, they are not exactly the same. Also, I would have to register the car in California to receive them and that is not going to happen since I live in Connecticut.

I think I will just pass on a reproduction plate and be happy I have one original.

- Warren

whitetop
12-14-2020, 11:01 PM
I used them to get the "TV-77" 1971 New York plates for my grandpa's 1971 Lincoln.



Steve, is the gold on the car the special anniversary gold that came on Lincolns that year? I forget the name of it.

Unreal
12-16-2020, 11:37 AM
Not the same thing, but I have an NOS 1969 Dealer tag from Tennessee. I never got around to it, but I was planning to register a current issue vanity tag with the same number as the NOS one. Then use the NOS tag on my car, with the real tag in the trunk, in the event that I got stopped. Not exactly legal, but I figured I would not get in trouble.