'67 Firebird 400/4-sp Convertible

[scuncio]

As poorly as this car is described by the selling dealer, I watched the video linked to the auction and the car looks incredibly solid. Might not be a bad deal around $20-25k if you can confirm the engine is the original.

Link to 1967 Firebird 400/4-sp Convertible auction (http://ebay.to/3pHa6X9)

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[R68GTO]

Looks like most of the original stuff is on the car. Unusual to see one of these that retained it's original air cleaner all these years and didn't get a spoiler slapped on the decklid

[JRSully]

Ebay seller has been hammered a bunch of times it appears...

[scuncio]

Agree, looks like a GOOD car that's worthy of an in-person inspection!

[JRSully]

No PHS.?

[fortim]

No PHS.?

I don't get that either, that being said, it looks to have all of it's 400 specific parts.

[L78M22Rag]

I requested a photo of the trim tag several days ago... no reply.

[L78M22Rag]

I don't get that either, that being said, it looks to have all of it's 400 specific parts.

I'm trying to learn more about the 1967-69 Firebird 400 cars. Can you elaborate?

[fortim]

I'm trying to learn more about the 1967-69 Firebird 400 cars. Can you elaborate?

Certainly not an expert but I can speak more to 67/68' than 69's. Some of this is pulled from 400 package option list and some items aren't spelled out in the list. Some of this is obvious but...

1) 400 CID engine 325 HP
2) Special 400 badging
3) Lower baffle (on lower valance)
4) Upper baffles (on radiator support)
5) Heavy duty floor shift three-speed
6) Twin (non-functional) scoops on hood
7) Heavy duty springs
8) E70-14 wide-oval, either white or red stripe tires
9) Chrome air cleaner, rocker covers and oil filler cap.
10) Dual exhaust
11) Declutching engine fan
12) Heavy duty battery
13) Heavy duty starter motor
14) Heavy duty radiator
15) Special grill treatment/trim (Hockey Stick bar)
16) traction arms on RH & LH axle tubes (base 400 is MT if optional TH400 ordered only RH traction arm).

If anybody can add or subtract from list this, please do!

This car looks like it was ordered with Custom Trim. While trim tag info on a 67 is important, get PHS docs for the car (I know you know this).

HTH.

[L78M22Rag]

I was looking for more specific correlations to this car, as to what specifically makes it look authentic?

Yeah, I see the hood and 400 badging of course. I take it that's the correct air cleaner, rocker covers and oil filler cap. The 400 specific grille is good to know. Thanks

[scuncio]

The seller seems totally clueless...the PHS would answer all these questions. I'd order it up if I had a serious interest in the car...and I really dig it the more I look at it.

[L78M22Rag]

Given the 87,000 miles on the odometer, I would expect that this car has been repainted. I was concerned that maybe someone repainted it re-sale red, but it looks like that could be original paint along the edges of the quarters and tail panel under the deck lid? The trunk floor looks fantastic!

The underside looks amazingly clean. The rockers, below the stainless trim, may still wear the original paint... they're very faded (not that they'd see any sun down there), they seem to have some wax residue and no rust!

Under the hood, everything looks relatively untouched, so I'm reasonably convinced that it's not a 400 clone. Would be nice to see the numbers on the engine, but no response from the clueless dealer/seller.

Any other observations would be appreciated.

[fortim]

Looks like overspray in the trunk and red paint on the fender brace. Sure looks like a real 400 4sp 'vert., these are somewhat rare. PHS, then inspection. Being a 67, the motor unit number (MUN) might be on the PHS docs.

On a side note, looks like no PS or PB.

[L78M22Rag]

I don't seen the overspray in the trunk, but I do see the overspray on both fender braces. Thanks!

I guess that settles my paint question.