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Carleen
03-15-2021, 12:59 AM
Pics on Facebook

Carleen
03-15-2021, 01:01 AM
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chevyman0429
03-15-2021, 01:12 AM
Man I looooove that paint!

Carleen
03-15-2021, 01:17 AM
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Charley Lillard
03-15-2021, 01:23 AM
In one pic it looks like it has a ac sized hole in firewall.

X66 714
03-15-2021, 01:28 AM
In one pic it looks like it has a ac sized hole in firewall.

That even looks like the heater nipple sticking out....Joe

WorkinProgress
03-15-2021, 02:15 AM
That car was sold new in New Milford CT.

I have the original title to that car. It is a COPO but not a ZL1 car originally but after the original owner got beat racing it, he put a ZL1 engine in it.

Dave Arnold was the original owners name from Danbury, CT. He also owned a V/8 Vega.

A friend of mine bought that car around 1979 from him. I still have a few parts from it that were taken off early in life.

I had the original standard blue rear seat that was absolutely mint and drove down to Doraville GA around 1983 and gave the seat to Lamar Walden to put in ZL1 number 51. His car was one digit on the VIN earlier than my Byrne Bros COPO that I still own since 1976.

The picture of the car coming down the return lane was at Dover Dragstrip in Wingdale N.Y.

- Warren

Carleen
03-15-2021, 02:19 AM
From FB

Dave Arnold sold the ZL1 to a local guy that put it in a 67 Chevelle, Storming Stovebolt. That owner was Butch Davis. Dave at one time owned A&S Speed Shop in Danbury.

Carleen
03-15-2021, 02:38 AM
Its in the SuperCar list

Stefano
03-15-2021, 02:41 AM
In one pic it looks like it has a ac sized hole in firewall.

I’m not seeing the cowl induction hole above the fuse box hole. Is it there?

Carleen
03-15-2021, 02:43 AM
No hole above Fuseblock for ZL2 wiring

WorkinProgress
03-15-2021, 02:49 AM
For a short time I had the original BE empty rear housing from that car. Ended up giving it back to the guy I traded some parts for it because the rear tubes were badly bent.

The rear end housing was painted red.

- Warren

Carleen
03-15-2021, 03:03 AM
Im wondering whats coming out under the Fuse block

x33rs
03-15-2021, 03:07 AM
Dave Arnold was the original owners name from Danbury, CT and around 1980 I believe was arrested for insurance fraud. He also owned a V/8 Vega.



By any chance did that V8 vega have a similar paint scheme?

WorkinProgress
03-15-2021, 04:13 AM
I never saw the Vega. Only heard rumors about it.

- Warren

R68GTO
03-15-2021, 09:42 AM
This pic is pretty clear that this firewall was not punched for ZL2 harness, no?

Pro Stock John
03-15-2021, 05:09 PM
Cool car, saw the pics on FB too. What's happening with it?

Carleen
03-15-2021, 10:48 PM
124379n676702

firstgenaddict
03-16-2021, 07:19 PM
This pic is pretty clear that this firewall was not punched for ZL2 harness, no?

Agreed this car does not have a piercing for ZL2 where we would typically see it.

L78M22Rag
03-16-2021, 07:34 PM
I understand that early cars did not have the hole above the fuse block for the ZL 2 wire. When did that change and when was this car built?

Stefano
03-16-2021, 08:27 PM
124379N676702 is not one of the 69 ZL1s and not an early build.

firstgenaddict
03-17-2021, 03:30 AM
I am 99.9% sure that Dave Beem's Hugger Orange - Dec built Z28 with documented ZL2 has the piercing above the fuse box & I know his 01B Yenko formerly owned by Bill Hunter has the piercing above the fuse box.

Carleen
03-17-2021, 01:18 PM
Warren
Do you have any more clues that it is a COPO besides BE rear end? There is a hole under the Fuse block hole. This Camaron was manufactured in August 69 and by then they had manufactured approximately 800-900 COPOs

WorkinProgress
03-17-2021, 06:17 PM
I would need to see the Camaro to try and figure out about the wiring hole for the ducted hood.

To this day I have the original B/B heater box and Z bar from that car. I also had the 155 dated 9204 booster from it which I sold a few years back.

Chris Oberhammer who still lives in Bethel CT was the person that purchased it off of the Arnold's.

Chris bought the car for the original steel nose for his '69 convertible. The ducted hood pad was still on the hood and Chris installed it on his convertible. I tried to buy the pad but he would not sell it. About five years later I saw his convertible was for sale. I called him wanting to buy the hood pad. He told me his engine had an oil leak and he threw the pad out. Really a shame as that pad would still be mint today if I owned it.

I have no idea why there is no ducted hood wiring hole, possibly was overlooked and they ran the wiring through another hole such as the plastic plugged hole for the speedo cable that isn't used on a Muncie car.

No doubt in my mind that it is a real 9561 COPO.

- Warren

Pro Stock John
03-17-2021, 09:59 PM
What's happening with this car, seems like the owner should be able to trace the car back and maybe luck into some paperwork since you know who first owned it.

Carleen
03-17-2021, 11:25 PM
Warren. The owner and his friend want to get in touch with you. PM sent

WorkinProgress
03-18-2021, 12:35 AM
Got it.

Replied.

- Warren

JoeC
03-18-2021, 10:30 AM
Did they get the NCRS shipping data report to see if it comes back to Hayes Chevrolet ?

There may have been a dealer swap and the shipping data report may show a different dealer that can be researched.

firstgenaddict
03-18-2021, 11:18 PM
Wonder if Chris Oberhammer would remember if 427 was scribbled on the fender extensions?

Carleen
03-22-2021, 04:54 PM
There was a piece of tape over it

JoeC
03-22-2021, 05:54 PM
here is another drag car from CT. that was discussed online. Some said it was a ZL1 some said it was an iron 427

Carleen
03-22-2021, 08:33 PM
Looks to be Fiberglass front parts

Carleen
04-03-2021, 02:26 PM
Black Ass and short spoiler

firstgenaddict
04-03-2021, 05:04 PM
looks like the roof or sail panel is painted lace in this latest photo.

I Love some lace on the old drag cars!

WorkinProgress
05-08-2021, 02:12 AM
The vintage paint on Arnold's old COPO is now lost to history, with the exception I purchased the entire fiberglass nose. It is interesting, as all the front end parts are separate. It wasn't a one piece nose. Even has fiberglass inner fenders. Moroso was the manufacturer.

I plan on building the nose around a subframe that I will put casters on, so I can have a vintage Camaro nose for garage art that will be moveable.

The car only had 576 miles on it and had the center fuel gauge.

I also took a picture of the piece of tape covering the ducted hood wiring hole in the firewall.

- Warren

Pro Stock John
05-09-2021, 03:39 AM
Sad but thanks for posting the pics.

camarodude67
05-31-2023, 03:53 PM
for sale in CT....


https://newhaven.craigslist.org/ctd/d/wallingford-1969-copo-camaro/7627082668.html

the427king
05-31-2023, 05:01 PM
If anyone needs a dated MN and BE rear for that, just come over and throw them in your trailer, Im 10 minutes away

69 Post Sedan
10-18-2023, 12:00 PM
Sad but thanks for posting the pics.

Agreed….another time capsule was sold to the wrong person.

Need I say more…..? :mad:

Kurt

Stefano
10-21-2023, 10:04 PM
Any trim tag info on this COPO?

William
10-22-2023, 12:17 AM
Courtesy of Warren, of course!

Stefano
10-23-2023, 05:22 PM
Thank you, William.