69 Chevelle Experts - Question

[SMS]

My 69 is a 13437 VIN thus a 300 Deluxe Sport Coupe. (And yes I spend a lot of time saying not all 300s are post cars)

Baltimore late build, 07D with L on the tag. 350hp 4 speed.

The coolest part of it to me is the two tone with painted top. Olympic Gold and Dover White. All born with sheet metal. Frame off a few years ago.

As near as I can calculate and guess, there might have been around 281 two tone 300 Sport Coupes. Figured this way; 5620 total 300 Sports Coupes. Total two tones for ALL Chevelles was 5%. (Not distinguished between the available two tone color combinations)

So if I say 5% of 300 SCs were also two tone that is 281 units. Then I assume the lower trim level 300 might not get the love of fancy color schemes so maybe the 5% is too high if applied just to this model. Finally the 65/50 scheme vs other? Would be fun to know approx how many are out there.

Any better data out there that might support this hypothesis?


Thanks,
Bill

[Postsedan]

Hi Bill,

Definitely a very rare Chevelle.....I do remember seeing this car (or it`s twin at Chevel-Abration back in the mid 2000`s) Did you own the car back then? Was it the same car?

I love all Painted Top 1968-72 GM Muscle Cars....the painted Top Cars are all rare.

But unfortunately the saying....Rare, does not always mean desirable.
The painted top cars have a much smaller lover affair with the Muscle Car Collector.

I would certainly say with the color combo, painted top and it being an SS396 in a 13437 VIN. Your Chevelle is an extremely low production number....if you were to take your Chevelle to any car show in America on any given weekend....your Chevelle would certainly be the only example like it.

The total production number of the V8 13437 was 7,181.....the 5620 figure was for the 13427.

Also, is your Chevelle the same Chevelle pictured on Chevelle Stuff Website.

I Love your Chevelle.

Dan

[markinnaples]

That's a beauty!

[X66 714]

I like it. I wouldn't mind having one of the 2 tone 1969 Camaros myself....Joe

[Bill Pritchard]

Any better data out there that might support this hypothesis?


In a word - no. One thing for certain, I would be astonished if there was another 13437 SS396 of the same color combo still (or ever...) in existence.

Beautiful car, enjoy it!

[SMS]

Hi Bill,

Definitely a very rare Chevelle.....I do remember seeing this car (or it`s twin at Chevel-Abration back in the mid 2000`s) Did you own the car back then? Was it the same car?

I love all Painted Top 1968-72 GM Muscle Cars....the painted Top Cars are all rare.

But unfortunately the saying....Rare, does not always mean desirable.
The painted top cars have a much smaller lover affair with the Muscle Car Collector.

I would certainly say with the color combo, painted top and it being an SS396 in a 13437 VIN. Your Chevelle is an extremely low production number....if you were to take your Chevelle to any car show in America on any given weekend....your Chevelle would certainly be the only example like it.

The total production number of the V8 13437 was 7,181.....the 5620 figure was for the 13427.

Also, is your Chevelle the same Chevelle pictured on Chevelle Stuff Website.

I Love your Chevelle.

Dan

Thanks Dan. This one was not finished until recently so it’s never been shown as far as I know. I’ve only owned her for about 4 years. Good catch on the production number. I got them crossed up.

And that’s not this one on Chevelle Stuff. That one is a Malibu SS with white interior.

Car was stored in Ga. for a long time. Also sold new in the Ga/Sc Dealer Zone but NCRS does not have the dealer name in their records.

Original floors. Excuse the Malibu door panels and seat vinyl. It’s what was available at the time of restoration so plan on correcting that now.

[Postsedan]

Looks Great Bill.

How about some engine pics.....you can even email me if you wish....be glad to be another set of eyes.

Your Chevelle is also deserving of an original GM Rubber Flooring. They are so hard to find :(
If I find one....I will keep you Posted :)

Is your Headliner, Sail Panels and Sun Visors correct for a 13437?

Yeah, the correct Door Panels and Seat Material will put your Chevelle over the TOP!

I understand the incorrect shifter is more a drivability thing.

Also....get yourself some correct Door Window Crank Handles. Just helping :)

Love it!

Dan

[SMS]

Here ya go Dan. Need to remove the spark plug heat shields and a few other things. Thanks for al the help and advice you can give. Enjoyed your 300 interview with Kevin at MCACN that is on YouTube. He was at my house last winter looking at a Camaro project I have and noticed/liked the Chevelle a lot too.

[Damien]

That's a fantastic Chevelle. Love it!

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Hi Bill

I have seen this car on Facebook.

Love the colour combo, love to see more of the interior put back to 300 Deluxe.

I got to see the rarest 300 Deluxe Hardtop at MCACN a couple years ago as there was a Lemans Blue L89.

Ryan W31.

[Pro Stock John]

What a rare Chevelle!

I'm a past owner of a '68 Chevelle SS coupe and a '68 300 deluxe 6 popper.

[SS69chevelle]

I checked my summary sheet and found I only have 14 (not counting this one) in my lists. I do not have it broken down by body style but this looks like it would be the first 3437 for the baltimore plant in my list. The current break down for the 65-50 paint code is ATL-3, BAL-1, FM-0, BF-1, KAN-9, OS-0. it goes without saying these numbers are based on my lists and info collected to date although i need to do another summary update from my lists. the current total of data entries is 7093 based on body styles. I may have more entries based on orphaned parts and new but not summarized entries. based on body tag placement in my list vin should be in the 409300-400 range. nice looking chevelle. take care, andy

[SMS]

I checked my summary sheet and found I only have 14 (not counting this one) in my lists. I do not have it broken down by body style but this looks like it would be the first 3437 for the baltimore plant in my list. The current break down for the 65-50 paint code is ATL-3, BAL-1, FM-0, BF-1, KAN-9, OS-0. it goes without saying these numbers are based on my lists and info collected to date although i need to do another summary update from my lists. the current total of data entries is 7093 based on body styles. I may have more entries based on orphaned parts and new but not summarized entries. based on body tag placement in my list vin should be in the 409300-400 range. nice looking chevelle. take care, andy

Spot on with the VIN Andy. 409304, and easy one to remember. Funny thing VINs. Right now I can recite the VINs of four of my current and past cars from memory. But I can’t remember what drawer my socks are in...

[Postsedan]

Bill,

I sent you a PM.

Dan

[SMS]

Received. Thank you for the support!

[Postsedan]

You are very welcome :)

Dan

[Unreal]

Received. Thank you for the support!

Was he telling you what drawer your socks are in?

[SMS]

Was he telling you what drawer your socks are in?

Very funny! :)

[Postsedan]

Now all your Socks are no longer mismatched and are all organized....as they should be :)

The 1969 Sock Restorer.

Dan

[chevyandpontiac]

Love painted top Chevelles (and GTOs) this one is a beauty

[SMS]

Postsedan while doing something else in the garage tonight I diverted to correct three of the easy issues you pointed out to me.

[Postsedan]

SOOOOOOO Much Better!

You made my Day!

Well done. Keep it going. We`ll need to find you the elusive wiper hose clip that lives in the inside lip of the left cowl opening and holds the left wiper hose in place.

I will see if I can dig up a picture for you.

Dan

[Postsedan]

Here you go...

[sixt9rsx33]

LOL Dan! I know what you told him to do...same thing you told me to do. Your pet pev...

[Postsedan]

LOL Dan! I know what you told him to do...same thing you told me to do. Your pet pev...

Lawrence,

You know me all too well :)

Enjoy your day!

Dan

[m22mike]

Rick and Annie's 69 Yenko, thanks Rick :beers: hope this helps ? And I love your white painted top. On my Burnished Brown 69 Malibu I painted the top Champaign , made the car really pop.


Thanks Mike

[SMS]

LOL Dan! I know what you told him to do...same thing you told me to do. Your pet pev...

Those plastic cowl vent covers are like Caution Fan stickers.

[Mr70]

Add that plastic DANGER/POISON Battery tag to the garbage can.
Those never came on batteries on the assembly line,nor over the parts counter back then.
That's a modern day packaging notice for the consumer to heed when unpacking,added by its retail manufacturer.

[SMS]

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[Ryan1969Chevelle]

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And so it begins.....

[SMS]

And so it begins.....

I’m building a 68 Z where I care about bolt markings and overspray. This one wasn’t supposed to be like that..... LOL. You know how peer pressure is.

[carnut4life]

Bill, I ran across a twin to your OG 69 Chevelle minus the painted roof today in SE Iowa sitting out in the rain between a farmers barn and the house. You don't see that very often these days, at least I don't.

[Woj]

Just for fun. This is a 300 hardtop I built 10 years ago. Original glacier blue with white painted top. Original 307/Turbo350, now has a 427/TH400. FactoryAC too. Built to be a cruiser. Dan and company helped me get the seats reupholstered with NOS material.

[SMS]

I’m going to have to get the material source and contacts from you. That looks great. I sent a bunch of money to SMS Auto interiors (no affiliation to me as (SMS) for another rare seat cover project and in 8 months can’t even get a simple legit update. So they were the only firm I knew of that had this patten. Open to other options for sure!

[Damien]

I’m going to have to get the material source and contacts from you. That looks great. I sent a bunch of money to SMS Auto interiors (no affiliation to me as (SMS) for another rare seat cover project and in 8 months can’t even get a simple legit update. So they were the only firm I knew of that had this patten. Open to other options for sure!

It took me a year to get some material out of SMS.
They were the only supplier that had the correct match and the quality was great but they do things on their own time.
I from what I could work out, the running of the fabric was the issue, whether they were waiting for more orders of the same fabric or some other reason who knows but it was a PITA.
Best of luck.

[Woj]

I’m going to have to get the material source and contacts from you. That looks great. I sent a bunch of money to SMS Auto interiors (no affiliation to me as (SMS) for another rare seat cover project and in 8 months can’t even get a simple legit update. So they were the only firm I knew of that had this patten. Open to other options for sure!

I bought the material from SMS about 10 years ago. They were slow, but did produce the material. They told me this was the last of that particular material.

[WILMASBOYL78]

Just for fun. This is a 300 hardtop I built 10 years ago. Original glacier blue with white painted top. Original 307/Turbo350, now has a 427/TH400. FactoryAC too. Built to be a cruiser. Dan and company helped me get the seats reupholstered with NOS material.

Very nice...love the cloth bench seat :worship::worship::worship:

-wilma

*how about a couple shots of under the hood :cool2:

[67since67]

Just for fun. This is a 300 hardtop I built 10 years ago. Original glacier blue with white painted top. Original 307/Turbo350, now has a 427/TH400. FactoryAC too. Built to be a cruiser. Dan and company helped me get the seats reupholstered with NOS material.

I'm loving these beautiful cloth interiors!! Is there an end to the awesome '69-'70 Chevelles in your arsenal Phil??

Bill W

[Bill Pritchard]

Is there an end to the awesome '69-'70 Chevelles in your arsenal Phil??

I think it's a bottomless pit.

[Woj]

There would be more cars if I had the room. I was very fortunate to get some neat 69s along the way.

[442w30]

My 69 is a 13437 VIN thus a 300 Deluxe Sport Coupe. (And yes I spend a lot of time saying not all 300s are post cars)

Baltimore late build, 07D with L on the tag. 350hp 4 speed.

The coolest part of it to me is the two tone with painted top. Olympic Gold and Dover White. All born with sheet metal. Frame off a few years ago.

As near as I can calculate and guess, there might have been around 281 two tone 300 Sport Coupes. Figured this way; 5620 total 300 Sports Coupes. Total two tones for ALL Chevelles was 5%. (Not distinguished between the available two tone color combinations)

So if I say 5% of 300 SCs were also two tone that is 281 units. Then I assume the lower trim level 300 might not get the love of fancy color schemes so maybe the 5% is too high if applied just to this model. Finally the 65/50 scheme vs other? Would be fun to know approx how many are out there.

Any better data out there that might support this hypothesis?


Well, yes.

The 5% number (no idea if that's accurate or not) applies to the total number of eligible Chevelles with this option.

While it's been a long time since I've taken Statistics (and I took the class twice for reasons that will remain buried in time), I do know that you cannot take a percentage from a population and apply it to a sample. For all I know, the terminology I'm using isn't quite accurate, but the crux is there--it's statistically wrong what you're attempting to do. With your method, you're assuming all body styles received the two-tone treatment equally, of which there is no evidence.

So what's the "better data" that I have?

5,057 Chevelles were built in the gold and white two-tone combo per the GM Heritage Center. Beyond that, anything else is speculation that will just lead to misinformation.

[Formula455SD]

A couple years ago i sold my '69 SS396 300 Deluxe sport coupe. It was a numbers matching 396/325 turbo 400. Car was painted red when I bought it and I added a black vinyl top as it already had the top trim. It was originally Burnished Brown with a Champagne painted roof. Black bench interior with the rubber floor mat. It was a nice rust free original sheetmetal car with 110,000 original miles. I was the 3rd owner. Probably should've kept it.