1970 SS396 Convertible on BaT

[Jonesy]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-chevrolet-chevelle-ss-46/

Is this build sheet legit? Font doesnt look right.

136670L178930

[scuncio]

I have seen a few build sheets with odd type face on '72 Chevelles, but never on a '70 FWIW.

[XXXGoldL34M20]

100% Fake Build Sheet.

[chevelleheart]

Agreed, fake

[Lynn]

I doubt the seller even knows it is fake.
Will be interesting to see the pad stamp if he posts it.

I don't get it. Guys are wanting 6 figures for cars like this, but don't have time to remove the alternator (or at least swing it out of the way) for a good pic of the engine pad stamp?

[carnut4life]

I called about a red 70 Chevelle LS5/M22 last week that was supposedly #'s matching with a build sheet and it looked very similar to this one. It had so many mistakes even I knew it was fake. I emailed them back and told them it was fake and they didn't even reply to me.

[Jonesy]

God forbid if you go on there and ask if a car is legit. The crowd just gangs up on you.
Lots of hate for guys who care about numbers.

[Mr70]

God forbid if you go on there and ask if a car is legit. The crowd just gangs up on you.
Lots of hate for guys who care about numbers.

Are you saying they don't care about #'s matching at all,or are you saying they say,How dare you question a cars authenticity?

[Jonesy]

They are basically saying who cares if the numbers match, its a nice looking car, the video is cool and then bid $80,000 on a $50,000 car :rolleyes:

[Lynn]

Real build sheet posted on another thread, LS5 car for sale. Obvious differences.

[Jonesy]

The build sheet in question is from Van Nuys.

Not sure if a Leeds build sheet would be the same.

[Bill Pritchard]

The blue convertible that's the subject of this thread now has pictures posted of engine & trans numbers plus a bunch of other useless numbers. Not confidence inspiring....

[GotGrunt]

The blue convertible that's the subject of this thread now has pictures posted of engine & trans numbers plus a bunch of other useless numbers. Not confidence inspiring....

Terrible restamp on the engine, not to mention Van Nuys stamps the VIN down by the oil filter. The trans is dated 1975.

[DW31S]

Aren’t the shields on the rear near the lower control arms for an El Camino?

[Mr70]

Incorrect TH400 Vacuum Modulator,as well as the wrong TH400 pan.

[GotGrunt]

Aren’t the shields on the rear near the lower control arms for an El Camino?

Yes, I noticed those too. Most likely the rear end is not original to the car either.

[Lynn]

The build sheet in question is from Van Nuys.

Not sure if a Leeds build sheet would be the same.

Wouldn't they have both started with the same pre-printed sheet?

[Jonesy]

You would think so Lynn. Im not that educated on 1970 Chevelle build sheets but this one looked wrong to me.
That engine stamping is very suspect also. Its at $75K right now.

[Lynn]

While I hesitate to put this in print, I guess it won't hurt, as the info is readily available elsewhere. In fact, someone posted this info in the BAT site just this morning.

All the original build sheets have five lines of text under the words: STATEMENT OF ACCEPTANCE BY CARRIER.

Fake build sheets have four lines of text.

Of course, now that this has been made more public, and a FEW more folks are more educated, the fake BS makers will get a new pre-printed form with five lines of text there.
And the game continues.

I remember speaking with Roy Sinor a few years ago about the fake trim tags being made for Corvettes. They identified over 20 issues with the fake tags. Kept calling them out as fakes at judging events, and everyone with a fake tag complained that NCRS would not disclose what the issues were. After a lot of pressure, NCRS went public with just a few of the issues (IIRC... 6 issues, but don't quote me on that). Within very little time the fake tag makers fixed all of the disclosed issues.

That's why I really don't like pointing out every little detail that is wrong.

[SS427]

Of course, now that this has been made more public, and a FEW more folks are more educated, the fake BS makers will get a new pre-printed form with five lines of text there. And the game continues.


I have several fake buildsheets in my database with the 5 line version. Some have been doing this for many years already.

[Lynn]

Assumed it was known well before I found that info.

[Bill Pritchard]

All the subtle hints at build sheet credibility are falling on the seller's deaf ears.

[Mr70]

..

[Bill Pritchard]

Sold for $88K.

[chevelleheart]

And the scams continue....

[Lynn]

Fake build sheet.
Restamped engine.
1975 model trans in a 1970 Chevelle.
Rear end likely from an El Camino. Why else would it have those shields?

All the seller can say is: "It IS numbers matching. & It is a great numbers matching car."

$88k.