My new toy, 1968 Z28 14,500 miles!

[HuggerSS]

This is my new toy, a original 14,500 mile 68 Z28 with the original paint and interior. I was fortunate enough to talk to the original owner, he told me he sold the car in the early 90’s. Up until then, he said the car was never in any weather and only got wet once! He told me the story about being at a restaurant and it started to drizzle, he waited until the payment was dry before he left.

The car is pretty unique and fully documented with the original window sticker and two dealer invoices. It was ordered with stripe delete dash paint code, deluxe interior, tach/gauges, rally sport package and a vinyl top. The original vinyl top still has both original plastic strips in the gutters. I also received a set of original tires that are on the car!
One of the interesting things about the car, is under the cowl was still painted white in preparation for the white stripes.

The lack of stripes and early 302 fender emblems really makes this car a sleeper.

Unfortunately the engine has been out of the car due to the timing chain gear breaking. Even though all the casting numbers and date codes match, I am unsure at this time if the engine is original.

The engine now has a all original 1968 GM crossram with matching 4210 carburetors, original GM Kustom headers and a all original GM transistor ignition set up. I did received the original, carb, intake, distributor, smog set up with the car.

The front plate is a original GM pre-production advertising and car show plate.

I am looking forward to having a lot of fun with this unassuming crossramed sleeper Z!

[HuggerSS]

New Toy

[HuggerSS]

New toy

[HuggerSS]

New toy

[HuggerSS]

Crossram

[HuggerSS]

Paperwork

[Crush]

Wow!!how long were you tracking it?

[HuggerSS]

I have been trying to buy this car for a little over a year. Doug Perry knows that I am found of 68 Z’s and turned me on to the car. I would like to send a special thanks to Doug!

[dykstra]

FANTASTIC Z!! Congrats on a super killer car!

[TimG]

Wow, great car with great paperwork. I like the day 2 changes and I’d gladly live with those.

[nova7579]

Did this car come from Reynoldsburg, OH and did you buy it from the late owners widow?
Brian

[enio45]

That is a real gem......GLW Purchase......window sticker too - wow

[enio45]

did u get the protecto-plate as well??

[Chuck_Burg]

Very nice! Transistorized ignition too?

[Copo_Cartel]

Paul it was a pleasure helping out. Your car came from a great home to it’s current great home. Your original paperwork speaks for itself and you can’t dispute original owners that are still alive and original paperwork. Go enjoy that cool Hot Rod.

[Copo_Cartel]

Did this car come from Reynoldsburg, OH and did you buy it from the late owners widow?
Brian

It did come from central Ohio but not Reynoldsburg....and the previous owner prior to Paul is still kickin...no widow. I live 10 minutes from Reynoldsburg.... I know who you are talking about ...he still has his car .

[gtomike1967]

Wow! So Cool!

[169indy]

Congrats! So interesting about the Fisher Stripe cowl treatment then No Stripes, Stealth Mode.
Can't wait to see more of this.

Jim

[bugsy]

congrats, great car.

[mssl72]

Nice car!!! Love it!!! Congrats!!!:beers:

[1967Z28]

Nice score, Paul. Congratulations and enjoy the heck out of it.

[CanCOPO]

What a gorgeous car. stunning

[CamaroNOS]

Wow, very very nice. That was a super score.

Paul

[Steve Shauger]

Fantastic car and owner. Will be in the Vintage Cerification Heritage display at MCACN. Look forward to seeing the car!!!

[scuncio]

Congrats, that’s really nice.

[napa68]

Fantastic car and owner. Will be in the Vintage Cerification Heritage display at MCACN. Look forward to seeing the car!!!

Me too!

[HuggerSS]

Thank you Steve for putting the car in your Vintage Cerification Heritage display.

[HuggerSS]

Thank you for all of the positive comments! It is nice to be the caretaker of such a special Z28.

I am getting ready to go in the garage and put the original Muncie shifter and back up light switch back on the car.

[NorCam]

The car looks great Paul. This is the same one you sent me all the pictures of a few months ago?

[HuggerSS]

Actually, I think I showed you my other 68 Z.

[Zedder]

Great car…congrats!

[PeteLeathersac]

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W:eek2:W everything also big congrats on such and amazing score and car!
Cool it will be in this year's MCACN Vintage Cert. Heritage display, yet another kick in the azz for those of us not attending.:rolleyes2:
:beers:
~ Pete

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[enio45]

Curiosity question - how would the strip delete be annotated - order form, window sticker or??? Obviously i was looking for it and dont see it noted - or did i miss it?

[GrumpyJeff]

Whoa !!! What a Sneaky,Cool Car !!!

[HuggerSS]

The delete stripe is noted on the last line of the window sticker “1001AA PAINT”.

[HuggerSS]

Trim tag

[HuggerSS]

Here is a picture of the trim tag with the “- 2” paint code.

Note how the “P” is backwards on the P T B stamp.

[HuggerSS]

This original picture also has the backward “P” on the passenger side.

[Lynn]

That looks like the same color as a 1967 Tahoe Turquoise. I know digital photos and computer monitors can be deceiving. Is it the same as a 67 TT?

[enio45]

The delete stripe is noted on the last line of the window sticker “1001AA PAINT”.

Thank you....yes and the - on the trim tag

[bcmiller]

Original owner drag raced the car a lot. When the original owner from Sewickley, Pa sold it it had the 12 bolt out of a Copo in it with an M-22 and 1970 LT-1 350. The original drive train was long gone years ago

And you are talking about the same car at the start of this thread, correct?

Interesting car and details with original paint. I am taking notes and will make sure it gets logged for CRG database.

[bcmiller]

That looks like the same color as a 1967 Tahoe Turquoise. I know digital photos and computer monitors can be deceiving. Is it the same as a 67 TT?

I could be wrong but I think it is British Racing Green. Special paint note seems to be for stripe delete. But it is not fully clear to me.

[bcmiller]

Name of sold to on Order and Invoice are not the same?

[enio45]

Are you saying your the orig owner of this car?

[enio45]

Its had 5 owners

Are you the orig owner of this car?

[enio45]

Coraopolis and Swickley was in my back yard when i lived in Aliquippa.

My 68 non converted yenko came from Coraopolis ....

[enio45]

OK thanks....

[HuggerSS]

Sorry for the delay on getting back with this post. I want to first thank Steve for letting DRCE500/Tom and I discuss the history of the Z28. Tom and I have had multiple conversations over the last couple of days about 68 Z28. I found out that the owner I bought the Z from promised Tom the first fight right of refusal when he was ready to sell the car. Tom having the same passion for the car that I do, I completely understanding why he was upset and hurt when he saw that I bought the car. I have made the same promise to Tom, he will have the first right of refusal when I sell the car.
Tom and I met in person today and had a long conversation about the car. To my surprise, Tom had the original POP for the car and was excited about reuniting it with the car. Now the car has the window sticker, order invoice, delivery invoice, original insurance card and POP! Other things Tom and I have determined; The car also came with the original exhaust manifolds and smog. We are unsure at this time if the engine is original to the car or a re-stamp with all original components.
It was wonderful getting to know Tom, he is a great car guy who had a reason to have been upset by his long time friend broke a promise...

[HuggerSS]

Thank you Tom!

[1967Z28]

Tom's situation reminded me of something that happened to me. A friend called me up many years ago and asked me if I could loan him $1500 to get a rallye green '68 Z minus engine and trans. The car was pretty nice other than missing the drivetrain. I had the money earmarked for something else but wanted to help him get back into a Camaro. I didn't have a place to keep it so instead of me buying it and parking it until he paid me for it, I let him keep it and said if he ever sold it I had right of first refusal. Yep, I was young and stupid. Next time I saw him, the car was gone and I never got my money. It still sucks pretty bad thinking about it all these years later.

[67since67]

Tom's situation reminded me of something that happened to me.
It still sucks pretty bad thinking about it all these years later.

I'm guessing most of us have had a similar over the years. Recently I learned that a very special car was sold that I thought I would have first opportunity IF it ever was offered for sale.

Very happy that this has been worked out, and very much looking forward to seeing it next month!!

Bill W

[DW31S]

Tom's situation reminded me of something that happened to me. A friend called me up many years ago and asked me if I could loan him $1500 to get a rallye green '68 Z minus engine and trans. The car was pretty nice other than missing the drivetrain. I had the money earmarked for something else but wanted to help him get back into a Camaro. I didn't have a place to keep it so instead of me buying it and parking it until he paid me for it, I let him keep it and said if he ever sold it I had right of first refusal. Yep, I was young and stupid. Next time I saw him, the car was gone and I never got my money. It still sucks pretty bad thinking about it all these years later.

My father (RIP) always told me one of the quickest ways to lose a friend was to lend them money. And that if you couldn’t afford to GIVE it to them, don’t LEND it to them. Now, I know that isn’t 100% true 100% of the time, but more often than not, he was right.
“Lend money=Lose friends”.

[Too Many Projects]

Glad you got this worked out. I'm sure you'll keep digging to determine "the rest of the story".


"I found out that the owner I bought the Z from promised Tom the first fight right of refusal when he was ready to sell the car. Tom having the same passion for the car that I do, I completely understanding why he was upset and hurt when he saw that I bought the car."
GGGRRRR... unfortunately, this brings back a, still smoldering, screwing I got in 1998 too. I sold my rare 1982 Kawasaki 1100 Spectre, that I bought new to a "friend" cheap, so he had a bike to drive until he found the Harley he wanted with the understanding it only came back to me. He found out he could get 3 times the price of what I sold it to him for and I never saw it again. Seems many of us have had something similar when dealing with cars and motorcycles over a lifetime.

[RPOLS3]

Nice find - glad it all worked out.

[touspude]

Everything about it looks great!

[Pro Stock John]

Tom sounds like a heckuva guy to reunite the POP with the car.

[bcmiller]

Congrats on the car.

Seems a bit odd that there are no instructions for stripe delete on the order form.

[SPEEDYB]

It is a great car

[HuggerSS]

I met Charlie today, he is the original owner of my 68 Z. He gave me some baby pictures.

[bcmiller]

What year are the pics? Already had a cowl hood by then.

[HuggerSS]

The pictures are from 1970. I was lucky the original owner carefully saved the original hood.

[cook_dw]

Congrats on the car. Is the cowl area under the panel painted white? My apologizes if this was covered previously and I overlooked it.

[HuggerSS]

Yes, under the cowl area is painted white.

[rlw68]

The pictures are from 1970. I was lucky the original owner carefully saved the original hood.

That's great! I know a guy who lost a lot of points because the cowl hood was too early for the car.

:rolleyes2:

[HuggerSS]

Note the original white paint in the cowl area.

[cook_dw]

Wonder if that has a tie to no callouts in the paperwork and the trim tag not calling out special paint.?. Also would you mind to get a photo of the core support showing the radiator side near the battery? Thanks!

[1967Z28]

Wiper linkage is black, correct?

[HuggerSS]

The call out for the special paint/delete stripes is only listed on the bottom of the window sticker. It is not mentioned on either invoice. The original owner ordered it with out the stripes.

[HuggerSS]

The black on the windshield wiper arms may be faded, but it looks to me like it may be gray phosphate. I will take a better look when I have a chance. And get back to you.

[HuggerSS]

Here is a picture of the backside of the radiator/core support. Let me know if you need a better picture of a certain area

[HuggerSS]

Original emissions sticker

[cook_dw]

Is the hood latch lever phosphate all the way to the end or is it painted about half way down? Sorry for all the questions just wanna collect data points.

[HuggerSS]

The entire hood latch lever is gray phosphate.

[HuggerSS]

I just talked with the original owner to clarify the discrepancy with the names on the order invoice and the delivery invoice. The original owner borrowed the money from his aunt who went with him to put a deposit on the car. His aunt’s name as well as his name appears on the order sheet.
After the car came in, he put the car in his mothers name for insurance purposes. His mother name is on the delivery invoice, POP and the original insurance card.

It is great when you can call the original owner after 53 years to fill in all of the blanks!

[Pro Stock John]

Would love more history on the car, it was raced early in life?

[HuggerSS]

The car was weekend raced 1968-1971. The original owner kept everything, including all of his time slips and pit passes. In 4 years he went to the track 7 times and made 18 passes. His best time was in 1970 at 12.35.

[Pro Stock John]

Very cool, and a stout ET too.

[Kurt S]

The call out for the special paint/delete stripes is only listed on the bottom of the window sticker. It is not mentioned on either invoice. The original owner ordered it with out the stripes.
It would have been noted on the order form (vs the order write-up sheet).
Notice that the color and the interior is not noted either on either existing sheets.

[HuggerSS]

Kurt, the custom interior is noted, but not that it is black deluxe. Do you have any idea why the color or stripe deletion was not noted on the order form?
Any clarification would be great....

[HuggerSS]

Pitt Pass and a copy of time slip

[HuggerSS]

Here is a letter from the second owner Greg to the original owner Chuck, explaining how much he loved the car even though he had some frustrations with the engine.
The third owner Tom, who is good friends with Greg, also told me about how special the car was to him and to Greg.

It is nice to be the caretaker of a car that has had such a big impact on so many memories and for the car still to retain its original beauty.....

[HuggerSS]

Pictures the second owner Greg sent to the original owner Charley

[Kurt S]

Kurt, the custom interior is noted, but not that it is black deluxe. Do you have any idea why the color or stripe deletion was not noted on the order form?
Any clarification would be great....
Cause it is up to the dealer.
>It would have been noted on the order form (vs the order write-up sheet).
Order write up sheet - done for dealership pricing.
Order form - what is submitted to the zone, lists all the RPO's and colors and special instructions.

[HuggerSS]

Kurt, I guess I am missing the order form. I am not familiar with the order form. Is that something the customer usually received a copy of? Thank you, Paul

[1967Z28]

1968 order form

[HuggerSS]

Thank you, I have never seen a order form.

[Xplantdad]

Lightened up the pics above... a little bit :)


206524

[HuggerSS]

Thank you!

[HuggerSS]

Up until recently, I did not know these plastic vinyl top inserts even existed. I am amazed that they are still on both sides of the car!

[HuggerSS]

Rear speaker

[HuggerSS]

Are these speaker grill screws correct?

[HuggerSS]

I just noticed today, the car still has the original Gourley Chevrolet promotional key. Pretty sweet!

[HuggerSS]

After wiping the car down today, I snapped a few pictures.

[RPOLS3]

Awesome car that looks great - the earlier photos with the little letter Goodyear's are over the top.

[HuggerSS]

I love the original Goodyear Wide Tread tires also, but I don’t trust them. After the holidays, I am going to get a set of reproduction Wide Tread tires. I had a real hard time finding them for my 1969.

[HuggerSS]

White cowl paint overspray that got on the door hinges and jamb.

On the hood, you can see faint tape lines. I think the hood had the tape laid out for stripes and then it was removed after the stripe deletion was clarified. The residue of the tape, left lines under the paint.

[68camaroz28]

Love those 68Z's and this be one excellent example. Thanks for sharing..... Look forward to checking out in person!

[HuggerSS]

Thank you Chick, I alway refer to your build thread. You have awesome Z!

[Coltdogg]

Beautiful Z.