Blackjack Headers

[69 Post Sedan]

I acquired a set of NOS Blackjack headers. The part number is 3017. Unfortunately, I can’t find that number anywhere. Does anyone have an old catalog to match it up?

The story is, they were mocked up in a 1970 Chevelle but never used.

Thanks in advance, Kurt

[PeteLeathersac]

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Comparing w/ other Blackjack/Appliance Headers, they appear more Camaro like than 'Velle?:hmmm:
1'st pic below is your pipes compared w/ Nos '68-72 Velle pipes from this thread, note swept back angle of mid runners...
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1301952
2'nd pic is yours compared to 1'st Gen Pipes from this second linked thread, pass' side looks different for accessories perhaps but driver's almost the same other than pic angle?...
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1260298
Also of note in the second linked thread is Member Whitetop mentions he has a Blackjack Catalogue.
Best of luck!
:beers:
~ Pete

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[jbtech]

I have a catalog. Remind me in case I don't post the information tonight.

[Chuck_Burg]

Hi Kurt! Those look identical to my Appliance CH4s, which are for 67-69 Camaro. You can see mine on my build thread.

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=161440

[rszmjt]

Hi Kurt! Those look identical to my Appliance CH4s, which are for 67-69 Camaro. You can see mine on my build thread.

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=161440

Chuck, I think your 100% correct, before Appliance headers changed to Blackjack the CH4 number was used, pretty sure the blackjack number is 3017, same header later issue.

I put a lot of those Appliance headers on in the early 70,s when I worked at a local Calgary speedshop JB,s Automotive , very nice headers very equal length too. I have a set of CH3 headers for a small block Camaro been saving them for years. FWIW when Blackjack took over they changed to that rotating lower flange.

[Chuck_Burg]

Good note on the rotating collector flange, which is probably an improvement. The Appliance headers have four hole square collector flanges.

[rszmjt]

Good note on the rotating collector flange, which is probably an improvement. The Appliance headers have four hole square collector flanges.

I personally don't like the rotating header flange, they tend to push out and split the gasket as there is quite a bulge where the flared sealing flange is, problem gets worse as the street hook up has the same deal.

I have Tig welded the flange both sides before and then ground and Roloxed off the flared bulge. I also noticed the quality of the bends and port flanges etc got worse when they changed to Blackjack name. JMO.

I put many different make headers on the 67-69 Camaros and Appliance was the only 1 that did not have any clearance issues with steering box/pitman arm or frame fuel line. etc. Wish they still were available.

[Chuck_Burg]

The Appliance fit in my 67 like a glove! I was very impressed when I installed mine.

[jbtech]

Enjoy.

[PeteLeathersac]

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W:eek2:W also cool they're B-Body!
Note the 'Vette pipes are the only other application shown w/ 2" runners and 3-1/2" collectors.
As above, they're similar to F-Body so may swap/fit one or both applications?:hmmm:
:beers:
~ Pete

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[69 Post Sedan]

Thank you jbtech……..very much appreciated.

Pete, I agree with you, if I didn’t know any better, I really thought that they were for first generation Camaro with the pictures you posted…..I do think they’d fit…..and they’re 2” primaries…..like you mentioned.

Thanks to everyone who replied, Kurt :beers:

[Lgianaco455]

Hi everyone, Chevy admirer from afar. IÂ’m a Buick guy. Last year I bought a 73 corvette that came with a set of NOS new in box Blackjack headers. I have since sold the car but still have these headers. This thread is the most informative on the internet in my searching so thought I would try and revive it.

A few things I notice compared to other pics. A lot of NOS headers have made in Mexico on the AK5000 tag. These just have “Mr. Gasket California”. I don’t see a part number on the headers that match the above catalog, just number 95822 on the box. The alumacoat is thick and could be hiding it. Did Mr. Gasket acquire blackjack later on? Any idea what these headers are for? They are 1 3/4” primaries and 3” collectors.

Thanks for your help!

Louie

[outlawperformance]

Kurt,
Only you could end up with another set of B body big block headers. The NOS Appliance headers I got from you fit perfect. I'm interested in this set also if you elect to sell them.

[whitetop]

Did Mr. Gasket acquire blackjack later on?
Thanks for your help!

Louie

Yes Mr Gasket bought out Blackjack.

[chevy427]

i am currently installing a set of blackjack headers on my 1972 el camino. i purchased these in the late 80s but am just now installing them since i removed the engine for a rebuild. i also have a 1965 el camino with a 327 in which i installed a set of black jack aluma coat headers. they are getting there. my question is - do they still make them?

[Derek69SS]

Kurt,
Only you could end up with another set of B body big block headers. The NOS Appliance headers I got from you fit perfect. I'm interested in this set also if you elect to sell them.
He missed a set at Jefferson last weekend! I bought this pair of 2" primary, 3-1/2" collector, square flange Appliance B-body headers there.

[Too Many Projects]

Are those for your brother, or do you have a B body hidden somewhere too ...:laugh:

[Derek69SS]

Are those for your brother, or do you have a B body hidden somewhere too ...:laugh:
No B-bodies hidden here. I called Chad as soon as I figured out what they fit, but he's a bigger tightwad than I am, so we'll see... They'd look good on one of his L72 Biscaynes.

I just saw square flanges and a cheap price, and took a gamble on them.

[outlawperformance]

Here's the set I got from Kurt on my 66 Biscayne.

[dykstra]

Looks great!!!

[Derek69SS]

Someone in Eastern Wisconsin should go pick up this Blackjack store display with a Tri-5 SBC header.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2228699984137540/?mibextid=dXMIcH

[Derek69SS]

Are those for your brother, or do you have a B body hidden somewhere too ...:laugh:

At the Roadster Swap last weekend, Chad picked up a nice set of 2" primary 3.5" collector vintage Appliance headers for a Chevelle, so we traded yesterday.

[Too Many Projects]

Headers look nice.
I MISSED the swap !! I thought it was this month and realized my screw up about 10am. Was going to bring my C-10 to sell, and was going to grab it quick and run over, but now can't find the damned title...:mad2:

[big gear head]

There is a NOS set of these headers on facebook for sale for an A body big block. Square flange. $600. Facebook group is Chevrolet Engines & Engine Parts For Sale

[Hawkeye]

Just in case you struggle to find them. Only posting in case someone is looking for these. I have no affiliation with the seller. If I owned a car that these would fit I’d be all over them. But, I don’t need them.

Cheers,
Marty

[cheveslakr]

I have an NOS set of CH22 headers on my '69 L78 chevelle. I fitted them with the body off and found they needed some tweaking on number 7 tube at the rear of the lower a-arm, and a few other tweaks. I want at least 1/4 inch clearance on all frame points. Achieved that, but it took some full 360 cuts and rewelds. Fit perfect now and so glad I found these at a swap....$40. Love the square flanges!! These were ceramic coated.

[Too Many Projects]

They are in WI, but about as far away as they can get from me, East of Green Bay. Tempting, but I have a cool set of Headers I got from Tony already.
Link to the post, but it is a private group, if you aren't a member. No sign or mention of the collectors...
https://www.facebook.com/groups/177095575968136/user/100043737962211/

[Chuck_Burg]

WOW! Sweet find for sure! I have an NOS set of CH6 Appliance headers too. Was going to put them on my L78 Chevelle but I'm now trying to sell the car. I installed a set of Appliance headers on my big block Camaro:3gears:, they fit great. I really like Appliance Headers!!

[chadk]

Here's the set I got from Kurt on my 66 Biscayne.

Your engine bay looks perfect! Did you have to dent any pipes to get those headers to fit?

Thanks