Please educate me on these style hoods

[Pro Stock John]

I really like these hoods, and I don't know that I'll ever find a used bolt-on one. So I'm thinking about having one made.

Anyone familiar with this style hood and tell me more about them?

[Pro Stock John]

another

[COPO]

http://haircutspray.blogspot.com/2012/02/motion-phase-iii-454-camaro-zlx-street.html

Believe these are different versions of the prostock hood scoop originally for cars with tunnel rams. I think they were available as a scoop only or full fiberglass hood which is pin on. If you want bolt on hood, then you'll likely need to make your own. They are certainly pretty bad-ass.

The link is to pictures one of my favorite cars which is a 1973 Motion 454 ZLX Camaro.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kkiqwS5FBcc/T0T2WxOhkdI/AAAAAAAADfI/ALV2wCXzA0o/s1600/Action+side+frt.jpg

[smallblockhero]

i know moroso made some in full hood as well as just scoop. not sure if they were the developer ...its an evolution of the grump lump.

[X66 714]

In the early 70s we used to refer to that as the Sox & Martin hood scoop...Joe

[Rumbleguts396]

I own one, mine is a Moroso one piece hood. Weighs maybe 10lbs. It has the Moroso decal and part# on the underside. I can get the info later today if you need it? Mine still has a 1970’s lacquer paint job on it. My plan is to install it on my Day2 Camaro someday.
Rob

[1967 4K]

Rumbleguts396, in an older post I see detail pics of your hood and shots of the bottom side. I have a stinger one that the bottom side is just like yours. Mine too only weighs about 10 lbs..
Harwood made them and Moroso sold them.

[Too Many Projects]

I don't see that style on their page... call and see if they still have the mold and would make one...:dunno:

https://www.eharwood.com/catalog/hoods/manufacturer/camaro

[Pro Stock John]

I own one, mine is a Moroso one piece hood. Weighs maybe 10lbs. It has the Moroso decal and part# on the underside. I can get the info later today if you need it? Mine still has a 1970’s lacquer paint job on it. My plan is to install it on my Day2 Camaro someday.
Rob

Yeah seen pics of yours a bunch, very nice.

[Pro Stock John]

Mitch I'm in Chicago, I've bought hoods from Glasstek and VFN over the years, I'd start there.

[Pro Stock John]

Rumbleguts I'm appreciative of any info. I have only seen two for sale in the last few years, yours and the pic of the tired looking one.

[chevyandpontiac]

LOL I own the tired looking one. It is a Moroso that has never been installed, I has been shuffled around and trade hands a dozen times over the past 40 years. I bought it about 1 year ago.

[Pro Stock John]

Is it pin on or bolt on? If the latter I'd be interested, I saw the ad too and I dithered. I'm glad to find out where it went, it haunted my dreams that I did not follow up.

[Pro Stock John]

I'm running a Glasstek Sunoco hood but have wanted to run a hood just like this.

[chevyandpontiac]

The moroso hood is a pin on, I beleive they were all pin on.

[Pro Stock John]

I'd still be interested if you ever sold it.

[Rumbleguts396]

Yes, Mine is a pin on also. ROB

[Pro Stock John]

Yeah in your pics it's very obvious because it looks thinner.

But the other one I was not so sure. Even so I'd be interested in buying the other one because I could have it replicated as a bolt-on, heck I'd even consider going pin-on lol.

[Pro Stock John]

So I did chat with Glasstek and they will mold whatever scoop I find to one of their offerings.

Speedway does sell a few versions of this scoop in different heights.

Does it look to you guys like the Moroso hood is molded to a cowl style hood?

Here is a pic of one of the Speedway scoops:

[NorCam]

Is this hood for your LS powered car? Wondering if that is also the yellow car that currently has a large pro-stock style cowl induction hood?

[Pro Stock John]

For the LS powered car, currently has a Glasstek Sunoco hood.

[NorCam]

Are you going to be able to fit over the front of the intake with a new (flat?) hood and that pro stock scoop? Looks like you need some height at the front there.

[Pro Stock John]

I think I'd have a shot at it fitting. I could also worst case (for Dan) and ask to drive my car down and do a side by side comparison with his old Moroso hood.

I also like the L88 hoods, but as I looked at those hoods the front of the hood will hit my intake.

Regarding the Moroso hood, does it look like the scoop is molded to a cowl hood or a ss hood base? If you look at the pic the base is not a base hood.

[NorCam]

Looks like you have your work cut out for you there. The Camaro looks like an old 10.5 drag car that's been through a few conversions over the years? Was this a back halved drag car that was later converted to an LS based 10.5 drag car at some point? What's the back story on the car? Looks like it has stretched wheel openings on the back from former days with tall slicks?

Are you planning to restore it now and convert to a day 2 project?

[Pro Stock John]

When I bought it, it had a 502 BBC crate engine and 8-71 blower with drum brakes. Wheel openings are stretched, had 31 x 18.5 x 15 MT sportsman pros on 15x14s in back.

The first iteration of the car had good 1980's chassis work, good tubs, my buddy all calls it a classis Alston build. The second iteration, someone painted tons of parts purple, through that crate motor in there with the blower.

I'd like to do a day 2, wheels and hood would help me get there.

[69z2x4]

Back in the early 70's my car had a hood vary much like the one in the OP's first picture. It was molded onto a flat bolt on factory hood. Looked great. I covered the under side with polished stainless steel..when you rased the hood it would blind you..lol

[Pro Stock John]

Nice, any pics?

[MailOrderMotion]

Here are some detail pictures of my Moroso hood. Hopefully they help someone out.
Dave

[Pro Stock John]

Thanks for pics, very helpful.

[Pro Stock John]

Dave those pics are great.

I had a good talk with the guy at Glasstek who does the custom work. He'd like to see some pics from the side.

So far I've found that Speedway sells these style scoops but if anyone has another source they like better please let me know.

I also would like to know how tall the scoops are on the original Moroso hoods, 4. 5, or 6".

I'll order a scoop and send it to Glasstek pending some side pics. Our only concern is the curve/transition in the front.

[Pro Stock John]

Also the Moroso hood appears to be a combiation of a 2" cowl hood and a scoop.

[Pro Stock John]

Greg W on FB has the look that I like, he told me it's a Moroso hood:

[Pro Stock John]

So my only concern about getting one made is getting the front transition right.

[Pro Stock John]

I'd be curious as to the width of the base of the hoods y'all have, is it 10 or 13 inches wide? Length 31 inches?

[Pro Stock John]

Update for anyone interested. I asked around and found a used scoop off a drag car, should have it next week. I'll attach a pic of the scoop and a car that's example of what I'd go for. From looking at pics from the past, some cars had a scoop on a flat hood and then you have these Moroso pin-on hoods that have a scoop on a cowl. Well I'll explore both scenarios with Glasstek (flat and cowl hood) and we'll see what might work.

[Pro Stock John]

Scoop I sourced might not work out, guy was quoted insane shipping. I'll check with him one more time and if he's a bust I'll move and find another.

[chevyandpontiac]

Where is the scoop at? Maybe a member here could help and pick it up.

[Pro Stock John]

Was like the MN / Canada border, I am confident I can find another.

Hey if you are at the shop would love a side shot of that gennie Moroso hood!

[Pro Stock John]

Dan thanks for the pics.

It was very useful to know the scoop, from rise to rise not including the lip is around 38-39 long. That narrows my search. Since I would mount this to a flat hood, I think I should look for a 5-6" tall scoop. Back to the hunt.

[Starship]

Short version. Small block with tunnel ram.

[chevyandpontiac]

more pictures of this car please!!!!

[PeteLeathersac]

more pictures of this car please!!!!


Did you see the other pics here...
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1579317#post1579317

Hooded '69 Wagon below was somewhere on F-book recently.
:beers:
~ Pete

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[Pro Stock John]

I'm just waiting for Lee to measure up the length and then I'm ordering one of his.

This is the plan.

[wannarun70]

Had one on my 70 chevelle. It was a really light weight lift off and I think it was also a moroso hood. Wish I still had it. Got lost in a move somehow.

[bbbentley]

Just acquired this vintage moroso. Part # 7919. This is their 5” version made for a single plane/single carb intake

[cook_dw]

.:biggthumpup: The mans got more hoods than socks.!.

[Keith Seymore]

I really like these hoods, and I don't know that I'll ever find a used bolt-on one. So I'm thinking about having one made.



As an aside, I have taken an existing "lift off" hood and converted it to "bolt on".

I had a previous flat fiberglass bolt on hood on my Chevelle, and went to the lift off to save some weight (steel hood = 80 lbs; bolt on flat hood = 40 lbs; lift off = 20 lbs).

I retained the hood hinges and then added a spacer/adapter (square aluminum tube in my case), and then Dzus'd the lift off hood to these adapters. That way if I'm alone, or for most of my usage, I simply lift the hood on the hinges normally. If the going gets tough then I undo the four Dzus fasteners holding the hood to the hinges and set it aside.

FWIW - in case you can tolerate the visual aspect. Or - you could certainly create an adapter that is visually less crude.

It's also "backwards compatible" in case I want to revert back to one of the earlier hoods.

K

[whitetop]

Old 69 SS 396 Camaro near where I live. It has since been sold and restored back to 100% stock

[69 Post Sedan]

I recently picked up an NOS Moroso lightweight hood for a first Gen Camaro. It has a 7” high scoop. The part number is 7929. It’s really kewl…..I have it on display in my garage.

I had a lot of people on Facebook comment on it!!!

Kurt

[big gear head]

I'd like to find one of these too. I had a tunnel ram on my car for about a month, but I couldn't find a hood, so I took the TR off and went back to the single 850. Speedway has this one. I wonder how close it is to the Moroso hood scoop. https://www.speedwaymotors.com/Pro-Stock-Drag-Car-Fiberglass-Intake-Air-Hood-Scoop-43-x-23-x-7,39242.html

[Too Many Projects]

Anyone know if there is a source for these hood locks ? I put a set on my '70 SS Chevelle after people stole my battery and tried to get the carb too in 1974. I thought the hood looked cleaner with these than the pins...

https://www.yenko.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=232855&stc=1&d=1674486238

[big gear head]

I've got a set of them somewhere. I was going to use them on my hood, but then I didn't trust them to keep it closed and went with pins.

[Too Many Projects]

I've got a set of them somewhere. I was going to use them on my hood, but then I didn't trust them to keep it closed and went with pins.
If you happen to find them, Freddie, I'd be interested buying them, if you want to sell.

[turbo69bird]

That’s got to be an old hood I dont think moroso has been in a Greenwich Cf in a long long time, they are in north haven or Branford or something

The typical set up was a pan that went under the carbs w a seal to the hood around it

[turbo69bird]

Anyone know if there is a source for these hood locks ? I put a set on my '70 SS Chevelle after people stole my battery and tried to get the carb too in 1974. I thought the hood looked cleaner with these than the pins...

https://www.yenko.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=232855&stc=1&d=1674486238

If those don’t work out for you call bill foss at driving image in Unionville CT , he’s been in the aftermarket parts business forever. He used to run a PCA years ago in the 80s he’ll know who made them and if they still do.

[x Baldwin Motion]

Short version. Small block with tunnel ram.

any more pictures of this car?

[Pro Stock John]

I did pick up a vintage scoop, I'll eventually work with Glasstek to fab up a bolt-on hood for my car.

[SuperNovaSS]

The locks are likely cal custom
. They pop up NOS from time to time.

Jason

[SuperNovaSS]

www.eBay.com/itm/394353307600


Cheap. Your welcome.

Jason

[cook_dw]

I was gonna say if that isn't sold by this afternoon I'm snagging it.

[X66 714]

I was gonna say if that isn't sold by this afternoon I'm snagging it.

Too late & no I didn't buy it....Joe

[cook_dw]

No I saw it this morning but waited to see if anyone was gonna buy it.

[SuperNovaSS]

I should have PMed the link. Lesson learned.

Jason

[PeteLeathersac]

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any more pictures of this car?

You missed this link a few pages back…
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?p=1579317#post1579317
Great you’re here, we've been missing your input also waiting for you to pop into this Motion thread…
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=174049
Below pics a couple different examples of subject style hoods.
:beers:
~ Pete

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[69 Post Sedan]

That hood looks great on a ‘69 Camaro……. :beers:

Kurt

[whitetop]

That hood looks great on a ‘69 Camaro……. :beers:

Kurt

What is funny it's actually a Mopar scoop called the "Baughman Layer" or something like that for the Chrysler engineer who designed it.
Back then no one cared. Everyone installed what they liked. My Mustang had a grump lump, the brown 69 Daytona ISCA show car had an L-88 scoop.
Just as you see every non GM car today with some form of GM cowl scoop.

[Too Many Projects]

I should have PMed the link. Lesson learned.

Jason
Well, since I don't get notifications of posts to threads, I just saw this now. Yep, I would have bought it, but thanks for thinking of me and posting...:biggthumpup:

[PeteLeathersac]

‘

Couple more examples that belong here in this thread.
:beers:
~ Pete

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[L_e_e]

If you happen to find them, Freddie, I'd be interested buying them, if you want to sell.

Would these work?

[COPO]

Always loved that '73 Motion Camaro. Badass car and the hood is killer.

[Starship]

any more pictures of this car?
I bought this car brand new as a 396/325. Was a race car most of its life.

[olredalert]

----Always like seeing pics of your Camaro, Sal. Do you still have that pristine Suburban? My dualie Subby bit the dust in a shop fire, but I found another of the same year with super low miles. Mosyly only use it to drag boats out of the water,,,LOL!!!....Bill S

[Mr70]

Great action photos Sal.:burnout:

[GotGrunt]

I just came across this vintage pic of a Z11 with a pin-on moroso hood.

[cook_dw]

Interesting to see no engine callouts. I can only assume the cars doghouse was replaced/repainted.