Stripes on LS6 poll.

[Charley Lillard]

I have had this LS6 in the classifieds and the only real knock is a dealer added stripes over the orig. black paint to make it more sellable. I can get the stripes removed and the correct black lacquer spotted in to where it will even paint gauge correctly. Cost would be in the 2500.00 range. Do I do it ?

[Xplantdad]

I'd say do it. Wasn't it Mark Young who decided to add the stripes? :tongue:

[Lee Stewart]

Let the buyer decide what to do. Why go through the hassle?

[NorCam]

I'd leave it up to the next owner and I don't think that is the reason it's still sitting. Anyone buying the car at the price offered can obviously negotiate the cost to remove the stripes if that's an issue. Having that option available to the buyer is enough in my mind.

[olredalert]

----Although I like some of the 70 SS's without stripes, the stripes are kind of iconic. On this 70 I think I would echo the keep the stripes group!.....Bill S

[TimG]

I’d leave it as is, Charley. There was a red 63 ZO6 Corvette at Mecum that had a big white stripe down the entire car. I always thought the stripe should be removed, but when I saw it 10 days ago I realized it looked great and wouldn’t remove it.

[67ssmn]

leave it as is, looks fantastic, its something the next guy can change if he wishes

[x33rs]

I prefer the stripes. It's just iconic like mentioned above. Having one without is like paying for a prostitute without....well you can fill in the blank :laugh:

Mine also came originally without stripes on Carolina Blue, when I repainted the car last fall, it got stripes.

Let the next owner decide. :beers:

[Crush]

Let me bring it home, drive it this summer and as I go to various cruises I’ll see what choice the masses would make and then I’ll report back! Deal?! :biggthumpup:

[Wakepowell]

My opinion is to correct the car by removing the stripes. It is a survivor and should be returned to as close as original as possible.

[Zedder]

I like the stripes, but agree with Wakepowell and would remove them if I knew that it could be done really well.

[Richls5]

im one of the weirdo's that prefers a 70 without stripes especially black. that being said i feel like it would be a hassle to go through and the car still sit. If you had someone ready to buy and said i wont until theyre removed then so be it.

[roadster]

Bucket seats no console and black with no stripes make the car extra special since delivered that way . Would be more appealing to me as original as possible and car would look better imo . If lacquer paint is available now and might not be later definitely stripes should be removed . Then send bill to whoever had stripes put on car , so hopefully they won’t alter such an original well preserved car in future , or at least inform them that vinyl would have accomplished same look without altering car . Thinking no stripes would help car sell and worth investment .

[AutumngoldL78]

This is one of my all time favorite LS6 Chevelles. I thought it was a shame when the dealer added the stripes. To me the with the stripes being added it was not a positive , but also was not a negative for the car as the car speaks for its self. I'd vote for removing the stripes.

[PeteLeathersac]

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If the black is still original paint, it may be best left for the next owner to decide?
If repainted now and buyer wants stripes, he'd paint them back on but original black would be lost?:hmmm:
:beers:
~ Pete


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[Pro Stock John]

I prefer without stripes, but maybe a lot of buyers will like them, I'd leave them alone if they are nicely done.

[markjohnson]

If the stripes were done absolutely correctly then I’d leave them. If anything at all is wrong about them then they need to go.

[the427king]

A 70 chevelle w/o stripes is a Monte Carlo. Stripes all the way.

[dustinm]

Isn't the whole premise of survivor not being restored? And to fix this issue you would have to restore the paint. I agree this crime against humanity ranks right up there and the guy that did it needs a good kick, but its done now and will always forever have altered paint - might as well leave them. BTW I dont like stripes on a black Chevelle.

[duskblue]

Do you think a real patient painter could sand them off and buff the original laquer?

[GearheadSS]

If they would added by the selling dealer, I would leave them.

[ORIGLS6]

You probably don't want my opinion.

[luzl78]

A 70 chevelle w/o stripes is a Monte Carlo. Stripes all the way.

A Monte with stripes is not a chevelle. Ha

[Mr.Nickey Nova]

I would leave it alone Charley!! Look's better with the stripes...

[Z282NV]

Stripes or not, the main thing is that it's a black LS6. Can't get any better than that. As most have said leave the stripes on the car for the next owner to decide if they want to keep them or not. I wish I had the funds, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

[tom406]

The thing about the stripes is that I truly believe Charlie can find someone to handle the job properly. I think a lot of folks who have issues with the stripes being added probably aren’t confident that they have access to a painter/detailer who can correct the situation without a repaint. If Charlie handles it properly, then that issue goes away. It’s like removing a vinyl top-sure it can be done with care and blending but who really wants to open that can of worms and risk having to do a full repaint? (Also black Chevelles don’t need stripes to look mean)

[COPO]

I'd leave it alone and leave up to the buyer, or take a substantial deposit on the car and then handle stripe removal on behalf of a buyer if they really want them removed, but do not want to take on that task themselves.

[carnut4life]

If it wasn't a survivor I'd leave the stripes on it for sure. But the significance of it being a survivor makes me think they should be removed.

[ohhawk]

If I were a buyer I would want them removed based on the originality of the car but if so I would want to see the completed work before signing off.......I would want the onus on the seller not me at this price range.

Not likely an issue but my research (when I had our '70 LS5 vert) restored was that the stripe dimensions can vary by build date. Stripes became wider or narrower (don't remember which) if I recall correctly at some point in the production calendar. So if the stripes stay some may want them totally correct. I doubt many would know or care.

Amazing LS6 for sure........good luck.

[Pro Stock John]

Yeah but what's more of a survivor, leaving the stripes or removing them and repainting the hood?

[R68GTO]

Black with white stripes happens to be my favorite color combo on a 70 Chevelle so I'm in the stripes stay camp. Now if you could get them off and still keep the original black lacquer from the factory, I might feel different.

[MYSTERYCHEVELLE]

I have had this LS6 in the classifieds and the only real knock is a dealer added stripes over the orig. black paint to make it more sellable. I can get the stripes removed and the correct black lacquer spotted in to where it will even paint gauge correctly. Cost would be in the 2500.00 range. Do I do it ?

No. If $2500 is what is holding up a potential sale then potential buyers are dumb in my opinion. What I’d do is present this OPTION to buyers. Put it in the classified ad.

If buyer wants the stripes removed etc. You will do this upon a deal being secured. and before new owner takes delivery. I’d not do it in the hopes that all of a sudden NOW buyers will come knocking. I don’t think it will make a difference in sale.

Just my 2 cents

[Canuck]

I can’t see the rear deck,but didn’t the stripe package include front and rear stripes. If that is the case then it’s kinda a half assed attempt to begin with. Since originality is a rare and precious aspect in the hobby, and you have access to a painter who can do it right, then go for it.

[ls6owner]

I am of the same opinion as Mike in post #32 and only remove them if the buyer wanted it done.

[L72copocamaro]

If it were mine and I was keeping the car, I'd remove the stripes. Otherwise, I'd leave it up to the next owner to decide. However, if you feel the stripes are holding back the sale, it might be better to remove them, assuming the cost is recoverable.

[Lynn]

Voting to leave them for the following reasons, most of which have already been mentioned:

1. New owner may prefer stripes.
2. Assuming black paint is all in good condition; I would be afraid of causing some damage to the underlying black paint. I realize they can be slowly wet sanded off using a lot of care, and maybe there won't be any damage.
3. The term "spot in" the black paint really scares me. There is no other color that looks as good when done right and looks bad when there are flaws. I can't see modern lacquer blending will with 50+ year old lacquer and looking perfect under the lights.

Let the next guy make the decision.

[Charley Lillard]

It would be Chris White doing it with orig. old lacquer.

[L78_Nova]

As much as I would prefer to see "this" car without stripes, I just think there is too much at stake to attempt messing with it !
Agree... next owner decision.

[Mr70]

Leave the stripes alone and just paint the entire car white. :)

[luzl78]

It would be Chris White doing it with orig. old lacquer.

For $2,500 I would have Chris fix it.

[livettes]

I would just do whatever Chris White feels is the right thing to do.
Jamie

[L72Biscayne]

If it were my car I definitely wouldn't and if I were buying it I would want it the way it is.What's done is done. It's like a broken bone, It's never the same. Factory paint is the way to go. By the time you sand the stripes and prime you'll be painting the hole panel. Then if the black is too blue or too brown you'll end up blending the tops of the fenders and quarters. Then you'll end up with blends on the tops of the quarters by the window always needing to be buffed from the blend appearing after time. Once you start you can't go back. Just my experience from painting cars for almost 50 years.

[olredalert]

----L72,,,Normally I would absolutely agree with you, but Chris is no ordinary painter. He is the best of the best. He would, of course, completely paint the whole hood and decklid, but I'll bet he wouldn't have to blend anything.
----I have a 67 Corvette restored by the Nabors Brothers in white lacquer, which is also very hard to match and it's a gorgeous paint job. I had to get a different 427 hood because of oil contamination thru the hood. I have a local expert who has had winners at pebble beach and he absolutely hit the button on the hood with no blending. It can be done!......Bill S

[frankk]

I agree with Mikes post #32. It just makes a whole lot of sense

[L72Biscayne]

----L72,,,Normally I would absolutely agree with you, but Chris is no ordinary painter. He is the best of the best. He would, of course, completely paint the whole hood and decklid, but I'll bet he wouldn't have to blend anything.
----I have a 67 Corvette restored by the Nabors Brothers in white lacquer, which is also very hard to match and it's a gorgeous paint job. I had to get a different 427 hood because of oil contamination thru the hood. I have a local expert who has had winners at pebble beach and he absolutely hit the button on the hood with no blending. It can be done!......Bill S

I agree with you, Chris is one of the best. I guess I just like original paint.

[chevelleheart]

Leave as is Charlie, for all the reasons above, the next owner will do as he wishes.
Great car , wow

[Woj]

It's the history of the car. Leave them and let the next owner wrestle with that decision. Pure black looks great, but these aren't bad. There's been worse things done to cars by dealers back in the day.

[442w30]

I like stripes in general, but Chevelles without the stripes have a different look, like as if I have to tilt my head and look again. Plus, I think the lack of stripes makes the car look stockier, like some guy who's short but built like a tank. It actually may be more attractive that way.

A rarity would be a Cowl Induction car without stripes.

[Too Many Projects]

Thread hijack. I keep hearing about this Chris White as a painter. Where is he and how do I contact him ?
You can PM the info, to keep this thread clean.

[Mr70]

Mitch PM sent..

[ChimChim]

Leave the stripes.
Offer as an option to the new buyer with the approx cost/resources.
BTW... I love em!

[Lynn]

"He would, of course, completely paint the whole hood and decklid, but I'll bet he wouldn't have to blend anything."

No doubt Chris would do a great job. But if this is true (painting entire hood and deck lid), then it wouldn't be original paint, would it. I was under the impression that the original black paint was underneath the stripes. Am I wrong?

[L78M22Rag]

Hey Charley, I’m in the same boat with my Carolina Blue LS5 convertible survivor. A previous owner added the stripes… which most people seem to like the looks of, but I’m thinking the car would be more unique without them. Apparently my car’s stripes were done in a non-lacquer paint, so the right reducer should take them off. Don’t know if I have the guts to try that on an original paint car? Here’s photos of mine with and without stripes.

With respect to yours, I agree to leave em for the next owner to decide. I’m considering selling my car this year and I’ll likely do the same.

[Pro Stock John]

Sheww that carolina blue vert will get a lot of attention.

[x33rs]

That Carolina Blue looks much better with the stripes, it accents the black top well and breaks things up. The before and after pics really brings that home. My opinion, and obvious from the pole numbers here, the stripes are preferred and would likely make that an easier sell when the time comes. :biggthumpup:

Mine is originally Carolina Blue, no stripes, but also no vinyl top (hardtop) so there was nothing to break it up at all. It was just way too much of that blue, I couldn't stand it and no one else liked it either. At a minimum it needed stripes but I couldn't even bring myself to put Carolina Blue back on it when I repainted it last fall.

[MosportGreen66]

My buddy has '70 LS6 green/green auto we bought off the forum years ago... its a crowd pleaser because it doesn't have stripes. A black car would look sinister without stripes

[Richls5]

It seems like these days no one cares much for documents or history if it’s got cool options wether it was born with them or not no one cares. If it had tach gauges cowl hood and a center console it would get that much more attention I think

[x33rs]

It seems like these days no one cares much for documents or history if it’s got cool options wether it was born with them or not no one cares. If it had tach gauges cowl hood and a center console it would get that much more attention I think

I'm a purist..........sometimes. Depends on the car. In my case my Carolina Blue Chevelle is a 72 SS. A 72 will never bring 70 money so it's not like a high dollar car anyway. Besides I'll never sell, I've owned it 35 years and it's always been my hotrod. However nothing has been done that can't be reversed. I did stay with the special paint theme (no paint code) and put a 72 vette only color on it so it's still true to the spirit of things.

My 69 RS Z is a different story. When I restore it, it'll be a flat hood and no spoiler Z as it was when new, and the Frost Green will go back on it.

[429scj]

IMHO...stripes on a Black car takes away the "evil is happening" look.

[Richls5]

IMHO...stripes on a Black car takes away the "evil is happening" look.
Couldn’t agree more!
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[Pro Stock John]

I prefer all black, it's a great looking car, very tough looking.

But I think leave that option for the buyer.

[olredalert]

----Stance, wheels and tires, and white gut make that 70 a bad boy!!!....Bill S

[Big Block Bill]

But without the contrasting white stripes, it doesn't have that "Bad Ass Skunk, stay away from me Look" I'm a little bias after spending 13 years restoring my black white stripe, black gut, LS-6 / M-22 car. bill

[Lee Stewart]

So Charley . . . what have you decided to do?

[Zedder]

So Charley . . . what have you decided to do?

He decided to paint the car red :)

[cook_dw]

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[dykstra]

My buddy has '70 LS6 green/green auto we bought off the forum years ago... its a crowd pleaser because it doesn't have stripes. A black car would look sinister without stripes

That car came out of Peoria, IL right Dan?

[lowmile]

I would paint it green and change the trim tag to match.

[DougA]

I would paint it green and change the trim tag to match.

Don't forget to add a sunroof.

[L78M22Rag]

So Charley . . . what have you decided to do?

Add 22" wheels with low profile tires, some red plug wires, chrome every bolt-on item, paint it "graphite" flat black and you'll get an extra hundred G's for it.

[slimsls6]

I'm in the same boat as you Charley. My car was originally stripe delete. I'm second owner and car retains its original paint. I've thought about it numerous times to remove the stripes but don't want to get into the original paint. It's a tough call to make.

[NorCam]

Lot 1300.1 Blue LS6 just went for 286K with the juice. Time to send the black one to auction Charlie.

Stripes and all.

[KENNY PASCOE]

I would leave well enough alone . Especially if original paint under it . I don't think that holds
it back and its not like the car couldn't have them . KP

[JMB]

Personally I agree with leaving it and letting the next owner decide what they want done....it is all original and whatever the Dealership did back in the day is part of the pedigree....if you had documentation for this, that would be even better!

Anyone looking to buy a car like this would be a fool to scoff at the stripes....it is what it is!

[Pusher_Man]

Personally I agree with leaving it and letting the next owner decide what they want done....it is all original and whatever the Dealership did back in the day is part of the pedigree....if you had documentation for this, that would be even better!

Anyone looking to buy a car like this would be a fool to scoff at the stripes....it is what it is!

Unless I’m mistaken, it was a previous owner “dealer” that added the stripes, long after the car was deemed basically a Time Capsule car.

[ZiggyL78]

I think 75% of the buyers will not know that a Chevelle SS could be ordered stripes delete.
I don't think I have ever heard someone say I wish it had no stripes.

[Xplantdad]

Unless I’m mistaken, it was a previous owner “dealer” that added the stripes, long after the car was deemed basically a Time Capsule car.


Absolutely correct!

[dustinm]

I think 75% of the buyers will not know that a Chevelle SS could be ordered stripes delete.
I don't think I have ever heard someone say I wish it had no stripes.

Stripes were not standard on the standard SS domed hood, which this car is. They were standard on a cowl induction hood, which then could be deleted.

Just a friendly FYI clearing this up.

[grantprix]

Knowing the stripes were added and after seeing the car in person, I thought it looked great as is. I wouldn't mess with it, it's all part of the car's history.

[GMC_Typhoon]

I have had this LS6 in the classifieds and the only real knock is a dealer added stripes over the orig. black paint to make it more sellable. I can get the stripes removed and the correct black lacquer spotted in to where it will even paint gauge correctly. Cost would be in the 2500.00 range. Do I do it ?
Always heard that you can't unring a bell. But apparently you can. I would say that since the stripes aren't original they need to go away. It's not like you're really changing anything,the paint isn't original anymore because some dipshit decided to mess it up.

[JMB]

Always heard that you can't unring a bell. But apparently you can. I would say that since the stripes aren't original they need to go away. It's not like you're really changing anything,the paint isn't original anymore because some dipshit decided to mess it up.The problem now is that the stripes will likely be etched into the painting which means that you can completely sand them off and re-clear coat and after a while you'll see the outline of them in the new clear coat which IMHO will look worse!

[JMB]

Always heard that you can't unring a bell. But apparently you can. I would say that since the stripes aren't original they need to go away. It's not like you're really changing anything,the paint isn't original anymore because some dipshit decided to mess it up.The problem now is that the stripes will likely be etched into the black paint which means that you can completely sand them off and re-clear coat and after a while you'll see the outline of them in the new clear coat which IMHO will look worse!

[ZiggyL78]

[QUOTE=slimsls6;1580289]I'm in the same boat as you Charley. My car was originally stripe delete. I'm second owner and car retains its original paint. I've thought about it numerous times to remove the stripes but don't want to get into the original paint. It's a tough call to make.[/QUOTE

I'll relieve you of your misery. Don't go near that car with anything more then a good wax. Leave it alone. It looks amazing!!!

[NorCam]

The problem now is that the stripes will likely be etched into the black paint which means that you can completely sand them off and re-clear coat and after a while you'll see the outline of them in the new clear coat which IMHO will look worse!

Chris White is the one who'd be doing the repaint. Very talented and quite accomplished in the Chevelle circles. He would be sanding the stripes down before blowing the hood back in with OEM style black lacquer.

No clear coat work involved in the process. :wink:

[JMB]

Chris White is the one who'd be doing the repaint. Very talented and quite accomplished in the Chevelle circles. He would be sanding the stripes down before blowing the hood back in with OEM style black lacquer.

No clear coat work involved in the process. :wink:

Someone should confirm with Chris that no etching will occur....this is a big problem with ex-drag cars with painted numbers on them when people try to sand them off!

[Charley Lillard]

Stripes are staying.

[JMB]

Stripes are staying.I think this is the best option given the potential downside.

[the427king]

Right decision.

[SuperNovaSS]

Paint another original hood and decklid with original lacquer and have both options?


Jason

[NorCam]

Paint another original hood and decklid with original lacquer and have both options?

Jason

Best idea yet Jason. :headbang:

[GotGrunt]

Paint another original hood and decklid with original lacquer and have both options?


Jason

You’ll still have the stripes on the rear deck filler panel though.