1969 Camaro Firebird Tilt Steering Column 4 Speed

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1969 Camaro Tilt Steering Column 4 Speed in excellent shape (See Photos) Not sure if this fits other years or models but should also fit a 69' Firebird. Pretty much everything is there like switches, uncut wiring harness, Column bracket, firewall plate, ignition insert and flasher knob. I will remove the handles for safer shipping so they don't get bent.

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TOM

[NorCam]

It looks like a 1970 up Column. Can you confirm the overall length? A 69 tilt should be 33" overall. Also, in 1969 the lock should accept an "E" key section...so maybe you can try to see if another E sectioned key fits into the keyway. I assume it's maybe a "J" section for a 1970 ignition or maybe an "A" section for 1971, but that's an easy test if you have some keys laying around? The blades of the GM keys have a letter stamped on them to identify the key section milling. Only certain key sections fit into the corresponding year of ignition cores. Doesn't need to turn, just needs to slide in to identify the year of the ignition switch.

Also, there should be a stamped date code on the lower section of the housing (in that area under that tape) that should tell you when it was built. It will be a five digit alphanumeric date code like B170S or something along that line. The column switch that accepts the main wiring harness will also be date coded.

Pics of those dates will help. Hope that helps.

[X66 714]

On original 1969 tilt columns, the casting where it says "lock" is rectangular. The oval I believe came to be in 1970. One of the reasons 1969 columns are so hard to find...Joe

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On original 1969 tilt columns, the casting where it says "lock" is rectangular. The oval I believe came to be in 1970. One of the reasons 1969 columns are so hard to find...Joe

Thanks Joe, so mine should be for a 1970, when I get back from work I will remove tape to look for a date stamp and check Ink stamp under the switch anyways to add new info to this thread.

[X66 714]

Thanks Joe, so mine should be for a 1970, when I get back from work I will remove tape to look for a date stamp and check Ink stamp under the switch anyways to add new info to this thread.

At least 1970. Maybe newer....Joe

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Update so far,

As NorCam noted "in 1969 the lock should accept an "E" key section...so maybe you can try to see if another E sectioned key fits into the keyway. I assume it's maybe a "J" section for a 1970 ignition or maybe an "A" section for 1971"

I had all three "E", "J" and "A" keys in stock in a small bag at home. The only key that slides in easy and all the way is the "E" stamped one. (See Photos) I also took the column switch off to see if it had an ink stamp on the back and it did not but it has a metal stamp of "4K36" which I am not sure what that means ?

I currently have paint thinner on the tape hoping it strips off to show a stamped date code there. Later on tonight I'll post a photo of my finding under there.
TOM

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Removed all the tape now, only found a large 14 and a 46.

NO smaller year code with a julian date anywhere and I removed everything like the column switch, neatral switch and firewall plate off the column to check everywhere.

The mystery continues...

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One more update...

I did a lot of homework on this column, I believe it is correct for a 1969 Camaro as an "E" ignition key fits also it is 33" from edge to edge and the 1970 to 1973 Camaro had a different Rod Arm. 69 had a curved arm while 70-73 had a straight arm (See Photo Sample). As far as the "LOCK" emblem near the key I believe that the factory may have changed that font later in the year as the 1969 Camaro was a long production year due to the strike of the 1970 Camaro being built much later then usual. Also the Firewall Plate is different on a 69 compared to a 70 to 73 and it did not have the specific firewall Boot that this column shows.
Just my Opinion.
Thank You guys for all the input. I will stick to the $1200 price or take Best Offer on this column for now.

TOM

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Mike gave me permission to post this private PM since he could not respond in my add.
He owns both a 69 and 70 Camaro. Thank You MIKE for the info.

[NorCam]

FWIW, 1969 is a one year only column which has the squared off corners embossed around the area where the word LOCK is shown on the column head. If there was a late year change where the embossed area around the word LOCK was redesigned for a Sept 69 to Nov 69 build, this would be the first time I have seen one? As also seen on the tilt column pictured below, the ignition switch housing has a red stripe on it. This is also a one year only 1969 ignition switch which was made for GM by Briggs & Stratton


If your ignition has a red stripe then it's a 69 switch. If it's black then it would be a later year of switch. The key sections E/H were repeated every 4 years (69/73/77/81 and so on). The housing shown below is further stamped A-30-9-S which is a Saginaw stamping and Julian dated to Jan 30th, 1969. It also has a matching date code of 8-K-22 for a late issue 68 wiring switch as seen on the ink stamp. Last thing I can note is the lower shift leg arm has #4529 stamped into it. I have compared mine with other known originals 69 columns found in survivor cars and they were all similar with these types of stampings and similar date matched electrical components.


For comparison purposes only, I hope these pictures help...

https://i.ibb.co/7XDmC0c/IMG-4983.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/m6DpCwv/IMG-1770.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/NWbHDQL/IMG-1769.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/6RQDJ3Y/IMG-0802.jpg

[NorCam]

FWIW...I don't think anyone really cares if the embossed area on the head is square or rounded off. If it's a nearly identical 69 column and fits the same, it's rare and it's valuable.

GLWS

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FWIW...I don't think anyone really cares if the embossed area on the head is square or rounded off. If it's a nearly identical 69 column and fits the same, it's rare and it's valuable.

GLWS

Whats even more confusing now is I have three different samples of the "LOCK" font from this thread alone. :dunno: (See Photos)
I agree I am pretty convident this will fit a 1969 Camaro anyways. As we all know any Vintage tilt Column is a very desirable part anyways.;)

[NorCam]

Yes and I forgot to make mention...the embossed word "LOCK" on a 1969 column is vertical to the lock and includes the pointer as shown behind the letter K. The later year columns have the word horizontal to the switch and don't incorporate the pointer. It then became a separate embossed feature of the upper cast.

And here's another example of an NOS Ignition Switch Cylinder I have here with the Red stripe. Correct GM service part for 69 only columns.

https://i.ibb.co/NFvyvWs/IMG-0454.jpg

[Ls648410]

That red paint would easily strip away after 53 years IMO on most key cylinders and also many would get replaced through the different ownerships over the years.

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Both my 70 Chevelle's have that "LOCK" font you show for a 1969 Camaro BTW ? I really don't think it was like this for a 69 Camaro.

[Mr70]

1970 Chevelles' at least,all got that "LOCK" wording design & red marker indicator you show on the ignition switch too,regardless if tilt or not.
I'm pretty sure other GM A-Bodies did too.

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