Gorgeous '68 L78 Camaro, Orig 4.88 Rear, M22, Console Multiplex

[scuncio]

Pretty awesome '68 with GM Canada docs. I guess this is as close as it gets to 'holy grail' status for the '68 Camaro....

Link to 1968 Camaro SS396 L78 eBay auction (https://www.ebay.com/itm/265984467593?hash=item3dede8e289:g:6MsAAOSwU2pjbXs E&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAkApoW2kKl8ZZDCbWfZAOeJI%2Fic% 2FDw%2FDhxSYVzPxeZMv8bvKQHQrN09x9xlkKOl7aLEo8ZD5gU uwMQLZw%2BBpuCGM7GLZnqQKBQtgSf8TGimfqTcj7XF52fnAQh J1NiNGYOlhx4lowzoSzyNBR1I0BjslqKgkPTg3GkcXmw54IMq7 ZFMr9W90GtkMU6sAiMc9apQ%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5bz0oyN YQ&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&siteid=0&campid=5337538513&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1)

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[PeteLeathersac]

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Hope everything's Ok as this car is/was Member owned also more than special as important but not clearly specified in the eBoy ad is the 427 was a Day-2 addition by Joel Rosen @ Motion, click here...
https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=100360

:beers:
~ Pete


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[COPO]

Cool car and great options. I wonder why Ebay ad never mentions the Motion connection or shows the owner affidavit regarding the engine swap. Seems a key piece of info to support the pricing.

[PeteLeathersac]

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No surprise the auction ended early, big congrats whoever stepped up for this amazing Motion 427 Camaro!
Looks like owner/restorer PJ hasn't posted here in a few years, good guy and hope he's Ok.
:beers:
~ Pete

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[napa68]

Nice to see the 68's getting some love:headbang:

[Pusher_Man]

Anyone else wonder why the order form is dated Dec 68 while the affidavit states it was taken to Motion in March of 68 and the Canadian docs show a ship date of Feb 68?

Also, I really like the car but a Motion transplant later on is quite a bit different than at delivery. The difference between super cool and a Motion car. IMO

[carnut4life]

Since you couldn't order a 1968 Camaro on 12/19/68 I'm guessing it was a mistake and should be 12/19/67 since the car was shipped 2/20/68?

[COPO]

Anyone else wonder why the order form is dated Dec 68 while the affidavit states it was taken to Motion in March of 68 and the Canadian docs show a ship date of Feb 68?

Also, I really like the car but a Motion transplant later on is quite a bit different than at delivery. The difference between super cool and a Motion car. IMO

Certainly the price reflects the difference in "Motion" versus "Baldwin Motion". Still quite a cool car.

[Pusher_Man]

Certainly the price reflects the difference in "Motion" versus "Baldwin Motion". Still quite a cool car.

Would this car be considered a true Motion car, though?

[COPO]

If Motion performed the engine transplant it would be a "Motion" car, but historically, the market does not place a significant premium on the shop built cars that were not delivered as new "Baldwin Motion" vehicles with the Motion mods in place from day one before customer delivery. Same concept as a Nickey car delivered new with all the goodies versus a used car taken to Nickey for mods after the fact.

[Pusher_Man]

I thought that was a different category, being a Motion-worked-on, so to say. I thought a Motion car was one sold after the Baldwin connection was over and either hooked up with another dealer OR Motion sold new themselves.

I wouldn’t think a car taken to Motion long after new for mods would be considered a “Motion” car. I thought this was the general consensus of reading info on here over the years…but I could be wrong.

[COPO]

There is no universal definition for what constitutes a "Motion" car. It is pretty well accepted that a "Baldwin Motion" car would be a new car that had Motion modifications prior to delivery to the customer as a new car sold through the Baldwin dealership. Now what level of modifications isn't necessarily defined or universally accepted, but obviously, the more extensive the modifications, typically the higher the collectible value.

A "Motion" car would be one that has had a fairly high level of modifications performed by Motion post delivery such as swapping a 396 for a 427 engine, various suspension mods, perhaps some visual mods like stripes, hood scoop, superbite suspension, wheels, etc. A car modified as a Day 2 car versus a 5 year old used car would typically be more desirable in collector circles.

A car that had a dyno tune, or maybe a carb, intake and ignition upgrade at the Motion shop isn't going to get a lot of attention in collector circles. Motion also had a pretty sizable mail order business, so lots of cars out there that had speed parts sourced through Motion.

Bottom line, there isn't a strict definition and values are determined by the market or individual buyer, but in general a "Baldwin Motion" car is going to be the top dog and the more mods the better plus any magazine coverage back in the day is certainly going to be valuable, whereas a car with Motion mail order parts isn't really going to be move the needle on value.

The car in question if it had an L-88 427 engine swap performed by Motion fairly early in it's life plus perhaps suspension mods, hood scoop, stripes, etc would certainly have an increased collectible value over a run of the mill Camaro with similar mods from a local dealer or speed shop.