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UPH879
06-07-2023, 03:49 AM
It's been a very long time coming, but its finally finished (except for the pin stripe)241427

L78 (Now L72) bench seat, manual (of course). All original GM sheet metal.

L72copocamaro
06-07-2023, 04:02 AM
Wow! Fantastic! More pics?

Too Many Projects
06-07-2023, 04:03 AM
Very nice, now we need the background story...:cool2:

UPH879
06-07-2023, 04:19 AM
Well, SoCal build May 67. I have the original protecto plate. Original owner shares his name with one of the main characters in the movie Shrek.

Factory ordered with 4.56 ratio and front drums....so clearly for drag racing

396 destroyed in 1969 and replaced with an L72 short block. Crashed in 1970, front end wiped out. Sold to second owner as a parts car. Third owner stored for decades until it was passed on to me on 2005. It has had a full ground up rebuild with the aim of keeping it as stock as possible. However, has a couple of subtle mods.

Will post more pictures in the next few days.

UPH879
06-07-2023, 04:22 AM
21k original miles

cruiserofland
06-07-2023, 06:47 AM
Very cool - can’t wait to see more photos and hear more about it :beers:

UPH879
06-08-2023, 07:26 PM
Here is some more images

Too Many Projects
06-08-2023, 10:22 PM
Bench seat with fold down arm rest. Strange option to order for a dedicated race car...and with deluxe interior. Nice options to be sure, just seems odd for what it seems to have been intended for.

UPH879
06-08-2023, 11:36 PM
I never knew the option existed before I got this car, so yes, a bit unusual. I know the original owner was street racing the car and perhaps thought the fold down arm rest offered a little more lateral support.

L72copocamaro
06-09-2023, 04:36 AM
Do you know if the original owner special ordered the car?

UPH879
06-11-2023, 07:13 PM
Well, he (original owner) did say that the diff was factory ordered and took 3 months to arrive.....with the car. No sure if that means it was a "special order"

The original dealer was Lange and Runkel, which is long gone now.

L72copocamaro
06-12-2023, 04:52 AM
Two to three months would be about right for a special ordered car, regardless of the diff I think.

olredalert
06-12-2023, 03:16 PM
----The one 375 Camaro I saw in 67 was ordered with a 4.56 gear. The different part was that it was delivered in the trunk along with GM part numbered OK Custom headers. Can't remember, but I'm pretty sure it had no extra non-racing options. It was white with a black int....Bill S

UPH879
06-13-2023, 01:07 AM
Possibly a silly question but what is the significance of a "special order" car? How many of the 1100 L78 Camaro's where "special order"?

L72copocamaro
06-13-2023, 04:42 AM
Generally speaking, a customer would "special order" a car to their personal specifications. Dealers would order cars with a variety of options and colors trying to anticipate what buyers were looking for or may be interested in. A lot of times, the cars were bare bones with few or no options. The same applies today.

There is no way to know how many were special ordered by customers vs dealer stock.

dykstra
06-13-2023, 10:43 AM
Love the car and the color (T-T)!

jdv69z
06-13-2023, 02:34 PM
I never knew the option existed before I got this car, so yes, a bit unusual. I know the original owner was street racing the car and perhaps thought the fold down arm rest offered a little more lateral support.
Friend bought a 67 Camaro SS 350 in 1976. Had a bench seat and a column shift automatic. Was a neat car. Gas cap was SS 350, so an early car?

Too Many Projects
06-13-2023, 03:37 PM
Friend bought a 67 Camaro SS 350 in 1976. Had a bench seat and a column shift automatic. Was a neat car. Gas cap was SS 350, so an early car?
At only 9 yrs old, there's a good chance it was. A number of later build restorations put that cap on now.

Was the horn button an SS 350 also ?

UPH879
06-20-2023, 07:09 AM
I was feeling neglected, so thought I would upload some more images to get some attention. First image is the as received condition with a replacement front end, then there is the diff stamped code and the vin plate in the door jamb.

UPH879
06-20-2023, 07:10 AM
Looking at the some of the other posts with unrestored projects, ....... just to like to say I know the mountain you have to climb.

Zedder
06-20-2023, 03:01 PM
Did you check the hidden VINs in the heater box or cowl area? Based on the lack of rosette rivets on your vin tag, it looks like it was removed from the car at some point???

UPH879
06-21-2023, 04:12 AM
Correct the rivets are not the original as I removed during resto. Cowl stamp matches

Zedder
06-21-2023, 01:15 PM
That's good to hear. I think they sell the correct rosette rivets on ebay if you ever want to change them.

UPH879
06-22-2023, 07:18 AM
Thanks Mark, would you have an image showing the correct rivet?

Zedder
06-22-2023, 12:42 PM
No problem. I do at home and will post tonight, but if someone else has one in the meantime please feel free to post :)

Too Many Projects
06-22-2023, 04:58 PM
Last set I bought was nearly 20 years ago and they were difficult to obtain and expensive.

NOW, the Chinese have found this lucrative market and they sell them by the handful for under $20...:shocked:
Just scrolling thru PAGES of these on ebay made it difficult to know what was real and what is junk. Many of the sellers did have "Comes from China" at the bottom of the description, so that helped weed them out.

Zedder
06-22-2023, 11:18 PM
The first is one of my old 67 Z’s with the rosette rivets. The second is a 10,000 mile unrestored L78 with std rivets 😀. The L78 tag has never been off of the car according to the original owner’s family. I forgot about those rivets!

Zedder
06-22-2023, 11:22 PM
This seller claims that these are nos, but I’m not an expert to be able to tell if that is true!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/304978953529?hash=item4702298539:g:-p8AAOSwFytaHNbc&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0ERBY3NT5WhB18DRgTQa%2F93PIUC U7jWf%2Fbs6bOi7OvBVkrgIsAElVRNnXwTeLbqwGyoHW9ILr0t 0HhSXXLlJvJ34KGZkXgwh%2BxHnXJFtykTdILDnJHIXjSgSctM Z8lUp13%2BBYbyjf%2F6kZu0Qo7cW6OJIQWSUTAosg6rw3r3zq e9hXPwRCDSRHbo8Mll6m5wU%2FxXU1Sj9JohSeAQAf0A2rDM5C 75BJZ%2BqCpwvbjmohKBFMMQK4fr10a4MW10lTpkLuRAuhQoSa Y0bY7hGHjTyLHs%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4T4v9acYg

olredalert
06-22-2023, 11:43 PM
----When I lived in Ft Lauderdale in the 70's I heard more than once that there was a guy who had a huge amount of original star rivets and travelled around the state selling them. Due to the nature of Florida he made a really good living. Not saying this is the same guy at all, but they look OK in the pics.....Bill S

1967 4K
06-22-2023, 11:51 PM
My 06A car has the rosette style. Notice how in all three of these pics the tags are canted about the same angle. Hmmm 🤔

Too Many Projects
06-23-2023, 02:20 AM
MOST of the '67 Camaro tags I see are canted. I believe the holes were punched before forming and either the punch was in the wrong location, or it was pulled from the forming. The perfectionist in me wants to remove mine and re-drill the hole... drives me nuts...:eek2:

UPH879
06-28-2023, 02:16 AM
There is a certain level of comfort a lack of perfection......and equity. It tells us that there is always opportunity.