62 - 409 starter question

[RPOLS3]

I posted this over at the 348/409 site but looking for help here as well.....

I purchased a restored dated starter for our 62 409. It appears that the incorrect starter currently in the car bolts in with 3 vertical bolts from the bottom of the starter into the block - the correct restored starter bolts with 3 horizontal bolts into the bellhousing. Do I now just need the correct hardware for the bellhousing mounts or anything else?

Don't mind the custom road draft tube bracket....

Thanks in advance.

[Too Many Projects]

I don't see where your current bellhousing will accommodate 3 fasteners, only 2. Didn't the '62 have a cast bell ? I can look at the one I have here and see if it has 3 mounting holes.

[McCune]

The new flange style starter is for a Manual Transmission.

[John Brown]

I don't see where your current bellhousing will accommodate 3 fasteners, only 2. Didn't the '62 have a cast bell ? I can look at the one I have here and see if it has 3 mounting holes.

This shows the three bolt holes.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Dr4AAOSw31pkTCQD/s-l1600.jpg

[Too Many Projects]

Ah, the bottom hole is in the casting but couldn't see it from the back.

[RPOLS3]

The new flange style starter is for a Manual Transmission.

Is the one in the car now for an automatic then?

[John Brown]

I know for a fact that the bolt to the block style starters were used when a Turboglide was installed, as far back as 1957.

[McCune]

Is the one in the car now for an automatic then?

Yes, according to my part book.

[John Brown]

If you want the starter to be more correct looking, originals had a pin going through the fork that was held in by a snap ring, not a bolt and nut affair.

https://www.yenko.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=243198&stc=1&d=1689600524

[RPOLS3]

If you want the starter to be more correct looking, originals had a pin going through the fork that was held in by a snap ring, not a bolt and nut affair.

https://www.yenko.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=243198&stc=1&d=1689600524

Thanks - do you have a picture of what that looks like?

[McCune]

I think the nut and bolt is correct!

[John Brown]

The pin and snap ring show up in this picture.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/mi0AAOSwzNpgdIFc/s-l1600.jpg

[McCune]

That pin is for the aluminum housing starters. Cast iron got the special bolt!

[Bill Pritchard]

The knowledge base on this site continues to amaze me....

[RPOLS3]

The knowledge base on this site continues to amaze me....

Indeed - that's why I posted the question here. Not a single response yet on the other site - which surprises me a bit, but still a very good site too.

So it sounds like I just need the correct hardware for the horizontal bolts. I reached out to Rich (Enoch) to see if he has them.

Thanks all!

[John Brown]

FWIW, went down to the basement library this AM, and came back sort of empty handed. I still have Delco Remy parts breakdown books from the store I worked at through 1981. Starter listed for a 1962 409 shows number 1107233. Breakdown book says see page 52F. Page 52F is missing in action. No biggie. I'll look for other starters that used similar snouts. Page 52L is also MIA. OK, I still have a lot of Chevrolet parts books I saved from my mispent youth. The pivot bolt part number is 1932197. If the pivot is the pin and snap ring type, the part number is 1945804. I looked for restored 1107233 starters and find them with both types of pivots. I'm afraid to look any further. Someone must have saved pictures of original 1962 409 four speed cars that show those details.

[Bill Pritchard]

Here we are, missing Verne again :(

[Xplantdad]

Here we are, missing Verne again :(


Yep :(

[McCune]

This is the special Delco bolt. It is 100% correct for the 1962 starter in question. I nerd out on stuff like this and it happens to be my every day wheel house. I do respect others opinions.

[RPOLS3]

This is the special Delco bolt. It is 100% correct for the 1962 starter in question. I nerd out on stuff like this and it happens to be my every day wheel house. I do respect others opinions.

Is this the bolt that goes through the bellhousing? What about the other 2?

Please PM me if for sale.

Thanks

[Too Many Projects]

Is this the bolt that goes through the bellhousing? What about the other 2?

Please PM me if for sale.

Thanks
No, that is the shouldered bolt that is in question on the starter.

[John Brown]

Is this the bolt that goes through the bellhousing? What about the other 2?

Please PM me if for sale.

Thanks

Bolt McCune pictured is the pivot bolt for the solenoid fork. It's not the same as the bolts that hold the starter to the bellhousing.