Vintage Certification @ MCACN 2023

[Steve Shauger]

This forum will provide informative updates on shows we attend, and certifications performed.
2023 MCACN Vintage Certification participants!!!

[Steve Shauger]

Vintage Certification™ is again proud and excited to be a part of the MCACN experience, hard to believe it's our 14th year at this show and 24th anniversary of Vintage Certification program. By now everyone should know this is a must attend event. Come Join Us and have your car Vintage Certified at MCACN Nov 18th & 19th in Chicago

Vintage Certification™ is a judging program whose sole purpose is to recognize, provide status, provenance, and promote un-restored (survivor) vehicles. We believe it is the only program that focuses on documenting and benchmarking these cars. Our core certification team consists of Brett Merryman, Paul Martin, Lloyd Costley, Steve Minore, Chris White, Scott Tiemann, Frank Badalson, Marty Burke, Jason Billups, John Ballard, Jeff Cook, Steve Shauger, Jody Anderson, Tom Migut, Alex Sahely, Bob Perkins and other marque specialists based on make and model. Each core team member possesses over 30 years' experience as restorers, collectors, historians and judges in the hobby. Typically, we spend 3hrs examining in detail every segment of your car including the underbody on a lift. To learn more about Vintage Certification visit our website at www.vintagecertification.com or the MCACN website at www.mcacn.com. This is the perfect venue to have your vehicle certified. You will be among and exclusive group of enthusiasts who participate in this exciting event.

We understand not every original car is 100% untouched, and we offer five levels of certification, based on the originality of the Vehicle.
Vintage Certifications™ five divisions:

Vintage Time Capsule - Vehicles that are 95+% unrestored in all reference areas
Vintage Legend - Vehicles that are 85+% unrestored in all reference areas.
Vintage Heritage - Vehicles that are 85+% unrestored in five reference areas.
Vintage Legacy - Vehicles that are 85+% unrestored in four reference areas
Vintage Reference - Vehicles that are 85+% unrestored in three reference area.

Reference Areas: Certification consists of two areas of consideration, Originality and Preservation. Reference areas are as follows:

• Engine Compartment Area
• Exterior Body
• Interior Body
• Underbody
• Trunk (except Corvette)

This year's Vintage participation requests have been overwhelming. We were essentially full by April. We are above our previous limit, but our team is up to the task.

We are now accepting applications for 2024. We have limited certification slots available and suggest you apply early before they are filled. If you are interested or have questions call or visit our website at: www.vintagecertification.com for more info such as, rules and guidelines and downloadable application.

Vintage Certification @ MCACN 2023 Roster:

64 Impala
66 Nova SS L79
67 Camaro RS
67 Z28
67 GTO
69 428 SCJ Mach1 Mustang
69 RAIV Firebird
1970 LS5 Corvette
70 z28
70 Boss 302
70 Superbird
71 Hemi Road Runner
72 Duster 340
72 GTO 455 HO
72 Olds 442
74 Trans am SD
1975 Cosworth Vega
1979 Olds Hurst/W30

[BCreekDave]

Wasn't there a photo of the 70 Z28 here?

[Steve Shauger]

Wasn't there a photo of the 70 Z28 here?
Not sure how it was missing. I added two cars recently which shouldn't delete any. I put the 70.5 Z28 back up.

[RPOLS3]

Looks like another stellar lineup. Always my favorite part of the show. Thanks to those that participate and put this together.

[Jamess113]

We're really excited to bring the 66 L79 out. First time attendees also. We got our packet in the mail yesterday.

[dykstra]

We're really excited to bring the 66 L79 out. First time attendees also. We got our packet in the mail yesterday.

We are excited to see it!!:beers:

[TimG]

I could spend the entire day looking at these cars.

[Steve Shauger]

Another amazing group of cars and owners. It was probably our most diverse group.

Here are the Vintage Certification achievement awards @ MCACN 2023.
Participants- Owner - Awarded
1972 GTO 455 HO- Phil Mitchel- Awarded Legacy
1974 Transam SD- Phil Mitchel- Awarded Legend
1967 GTO- Darrell Erwin- Awarded Legacy
1969 RAIV Firebird- Scott Allen- Awarded Reference
1967 Camaro RS- Ross Freidman- Awarded Legend
1967 Z28- Chris Picitello- Awarded Time Capsule
1976 Cosworth Vega- Jim Mattison- Awarded Legend
1970 Superbird- Bob Jennings- Awarded Reference
1971 Barracuda- Eric Van Damia- Awarded Legacy
1972 340 Duster- Joe Palka- Awarded Legacy
1964 Impala- Mike Tabor- Awarded Legend
1970 Corvette LS5- Tim Schuetz- Awarded Time Capsule
1969 Mustang 428SCJ-Andy Snetselaar- Awarded Legend
1970 Boss 302- David Goss- Awarded Reference
1972 442 Olds- Ali Zalzala- Awarded Legend
79 W30- Rick Schmidt- Awarded Legend
1970 Z28- Eric Gresh- Awarded Reference
1966 Nova SS L79- Pat Floyd- Awarded Heritage

Vintage Certifications™ Five Award Levels:

Vintage Time Capsule - Vehicles that are 95+% unrestored in all 6 reference areas
Vintage Legend - Vehicles that are 85+% unrestored in all 6 reference areas.
Vintage Heritage - Vehicles that are 85+% unrestored in five reference areas.
Vintage Legacy - Vehicles that are 85+% unrestored in four reference areas
Vintage Reference - Vehicles that are 85+% unrestored in two & three reference area.

Reference Areas: Certification consists of two areas of consideration, Originality and Preservation. Reference areas are as follows:
• Operation
• Engine Compartment Area
• Exterior Body
• Interior Body
• Underbody
• Trunk (except Corvette)

A special thanks to all the judges who worked tirelessly and as a team.

Frank Badalson
Dave Inglesby
Scott Smith
Steve Shauger
Chris White
Brett Merryman
Brett Merryman Jr
Forest Merryman
Scott Tiemann
Alex Sahely
Barry Allen
Jason Billups
Bob Perkins
Lloyd Costley
Tom Migut
Jody Anderson
Steve Minore
Paul Martin

A huge help from Mitch Despen. He is the go-to guy assisting in preparing the area and moving the cars into position.

[Canuck]

A great time once again!

Paul Martin

[BCreekDave]

Wish I could have gone.

For those that are interested, there are many photos of the Shadow Gray 1970 Z28 on the BAT auction of this car here:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-chevrolet-camaro-45/

[Bill Pritchard]

Congrats to all whose cars were judged and to all those doing the judging!

[Jamess113]

Here are some pictures of our 66 L79 Chevy II in Vintage Certification . It was amazing to watch these guys inspect our car. I was told they spend about 3 hours on each car. Its more like 8 to 9 hrs. Special thanks to Chris White, Jeff Helms and Steve Shauger, Cant say enough good things about you all. What a great experience!

[Jamess113]

A few more pictures

[TimG]

That Chevy II was amazing, I wish I saw it on the lift.

[Charley Lillard]

The 73 Z and the L78 Camaro on the lifts were actually restored cars and in Legends judging so there is no confusion. The Chevy 2 was amazing.

[Steve Shauger]

Here's a video of the Vintage Certified Time Capsule @ MCACN

▶️ Watch this reel https://www.facebook.com/share/r/7hijzR4KaaHKXhzc/?mibextid=sy1ut2

[Steve Shauger]

I huge thank you to Lloyd Costley for his effort and dedication to Vintage program and his spectacular photography!!!! This is just the Nova L79 pics, but as time allows I will resize and more in separate posts ...

[Steve Shauger]

This is a stunningly unmolested car.

[Steve Shauger]

More pics

[Steve Shauger]

This 67 Z28 was awarded Time Capsule. It was optioned with ultra rare cowl plenum and headers.

[olredalert]

----Would love to know if the headers on this Z are OK Custom GM part number headers?....Bill S

[Steve Shauger]

This 67 Z28 was awarded Time Capsule. It was optioned with ultra rare cowl plenum and headers.

A few more pics

[HuggerSS]

Steve, amazing pictures! Do you have a picture of the header/exhaust connection?

[Canuck]

----Would love to know if the headers on this Z are OK Custom GM part number headers?....Bill S
Bill
When we inspected this car at MCACN in 2022 we found blue paint in the trunk that had transferred from the headers to the trunk floor,likely while in transit. The paint matched the headers,sio we safely concluded these were the factory supplied headers,shipped with the car.
The original exhaust manifolds were there as well, in pristine condition with about 15 inches of exhaust header pipe attached. Probably removed on day 2.
Paul

[Mr70]

......I can't stop looking at all these detailed photos.

[HuggerSS]

Thank you Steve,

[Steve Shauger]

This car is RPO Z283; which is factory equipped with headers.
RPO Z284; would be header/cowl plenum equipped from the factory.

Z28 with ECL BA= Z28 without either.
Z28 with ECL BB= air plenum only
Z28 with ECL BC= headers only
Z28 with ECL BD= headers and cowl plenum(refer to window sticker pictured)

There were 4 Z28 ECL combination as represented above.

[Xplantdad]

Turned the window sticker for ya!




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[Edgemontvillage]

Steve, amazing pictures! Do you have a picture of the header/exhaust connection?

Photos of the original exhaust manifolds including the heat riser and head pipe cut offs that were in the trunk when we inspected the car. They were likely delivery date take offs as the they showed no signs of any wear, dis-coloring or carbon accumulation. Note the original white-asbestos donut and (correct) clocking of the heat riser valve. I may have photos of the installed headers, will have a look.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53511130888_387da675e2_c.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53510964071_959cf32951_c.jpg

[Edgemontvillage]

Photos of the dealer installed headers

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53511744437_a25e28000e_c.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53512954569_00c75089ee_c.jpg

[BCreekDave]

Hopefully forthcoming photos of the 1970 Z28? Love the originality of the Deuce. Thanks for this effort.

[TerryD]

Great photos in this thread! Of particular interest to me are the 67 Camaros pics especially the one’s shining light on the “67 Z28 mysteries (to me)”.

[TerryD]

Steve, amazing pictures! Do you have a picture of the header/exhaust connection?

Here’s another photo of this Z28’s header/exhaust connection.

[Jamess113]

Thank you Lloyd for taking some great pictures of our 66 L79 and all the others as too. Thanks Steve for posting all of them. What a great time!! Cant wait to see all the others as well

[HuggerSS]

Thank you Lloyd!

[Edgemontvillage]

Thank you all for the feedback, its a unique privilege to photograph and certify these cars. There is never enough time to do them justice of course nor to photographically capture all the intricacies that make them special - details are bound to be overlooked. They are all remarkable.

[TimG]

All great cars and great owners. It's hard to imagine Hi Performance cars like these survived.

[napa68]

I'm going through these pics once again. I gotta say, I'm just in awe! Thank you again to the Vintage Certification team for documenting all of this and sharing. The hobby is better for it!

[SBR]

Thank you so much for posting these pictures of these amazing cars. As much as I love seeing a beautifully restored car, there is absolutely nothing that compares to a true time capsule.

[Too Many Projects]

I will add that Lloyd's fantastic pics are just the tip of the iceberg of what happens at this event. I have been privileged to work with Lloyd, while photographing some of these cars and assisting other judges as well. The judges put in LONG days with so many vehicles to inspect. For some of them, this event starts around noon on Thursday. The goal is to have the lifts in position and operating by 2 pm so the underside inspections can start. Last year, it was closer to 4-5pm, and continues, sometimes, until after 10 pm and then frantically moving cars on and off the 2 lifts for 14 to 16 hours on Friday. While the underside inspections and photos are being done on the lifts, there are a dozen more inspectors, usually in teams of 2, crawling over every inch of 5-6 more cars on the show floor. The cars can be driven on and off the lifts thru Friday. Any car that hasn't had the underside inspections done by then need to be pushed on and off during the show on Saturday, so it is a race against time to get all those done by about 10pm Friday...no joke... the cars that are on the lifts for Saturday opening might have been placed there between 10 and 12pm to stay for public viewing.
Besides the judges working long days, there is Brett and his 2 sons attempting to keep all the chaos organized, the blizzard of paperwork the judges hand them, all the sheets filed and entered into the computer correctly and finally, printing the certificates and framing them. Those guys are there for just as many hours as the judges, if not more.

Here's to the dedication of the entire team....:flag:

[Steve Shauger]

I will add that Lloyd's fantastic pics are just the tip of the iceberg of what happens at this event. I have been privileged to work with Lloyd, while photographing some of these cars and assisting other judges as well. The judges put in LONG days with so many vehicles to inspect. For some of them, this event starts around noon on Thursday. The goal is to have the lifts in position and operating by 2 pm so the underside inspections can start. Last year, it was closer to 4-5pm, and continues, sometimes, until after 10 pm and then frantically moving cars on and off the 2 lifts for 14 to 16 hours on Friday. While the underside inspections and photos are being done on the lifts, there are a dozen more inspectors, usually in teams of 2, crawling over every inch of 5-6 more cars on the show floor. The cars can be driven on and off the lifts thru Friday. Any car that hasn't had the underside inspections done by then need to be pushed on and off during the show on Saturday, so it is a race against time to get all those done by about 10pm Friday...no joke... the cars
that are on the lifts for Saturday opening might have been placed there between 10 and 12pm to stay for public viewing.
Besides the judges working long days, there is Brett and his 2 sons attempting to keep all the chaos organized, the blizzard of paperwork the judges hand them, all the sheets filed and entered into the computer correctly and finally, printing the certificates and framing them. Those guys are there for just as many hours as the judges, if not more.

Here's to the dedication of the entire team....:flag:

Mitch well stated. At the end of event we all feel relief and satisfaction. Btw if I may Mitch is our Mr everything. He can be found directing cars on and off lifts, judging, answering spectator/participant question, promoting the program and
providing handouts detailing the Vintage program! Very much appreciate your efforts and enthusiasm.

This is our 25th year.... where has all the time gone.

Look forward to seeing everyone at the Camaro Nationals July 19 & 20. Morgantown, PA

[Edgemontvillage]

Mitch well stated. At the end of event we all feel relief and satisfaction. Btw if I may Mitch is our Mr everything. He can be found directing cars on and off lifts, judging, answering spectator/participant question, promoting the program and
providing handouts detailing the Vintage program! Very much appreciate your efforts and enthusiasm.

This is our 25th year.... where has all the time gone.

Look forward to seeing everyone at the Camaro Nationals July 19 & 20. Morgantown, PA

Shoutout to Mitch - a great resource and partner during VC judging, Mitch somehow manages to find a positive word no matter how long the day and always-always willing to lend a hand. Thank you Mitch!

[Steve Shauger]

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[BCreekDave]

Thanks much for the photos. Hate to sound greedy, but any undercar shots of this one?

[Steve Shauger]

Thanks much for the photos. Hate to sound greedy, but any undercar shots of this one?

We had 18 cars being certified last year and very difficult to get every underbody. Wedo have a 70 being Vintage Certified @ Camaro Nationals and will be sure to take some pics.

[Steve Shauger]

1974 Trans Am SD- Phil Mitchel- Awarded Legend

[Steve Shauger]

This car is one only 212 4 spd built and unlike many loaded up trans am this one is sparsely appointed. By checking the SD engine option was all you needed to become the most powerful musclecar built in 1974! Handling , looks and performance ... a combination that resonates with musclecar enthusiast today!

[Steve Shauger]

1969 Mustang 428SCJ-Andy Snetselaar- Awarded Legend. This is a 20k mile, virtually untouched/fluffed survivor a s super Cobra Jet!!!