$330K 69 RS Z28 at Barrett-Jackson

[CamarosRus]

Interested to learn the "Rest of The Story" on the Fathom Green 69 Z28

There was also a Red 69 Z that sold for $220K ??? plus commission ...........

[Billohio]

Same guy had the desert sand LS6, a blue 69 Z (lot 1088.1 165,000) and a red 69 Z (lot 1085.1 203,500) . All had Jerrys authentication. Trunk spatter wrong and reproduction boosters on all of them. Nice paint and the LS6 glowed in the sun.

[lycan]

$300K plus the juice for 69 Z/28? I'd love to hear more as well

[DW31S]

Same guy had the desert sand LS6, a blue 69 Z (lot 1088.1 165,000) and a red 69 Z (lot 1085.1 203,500) . All had Jerrys authentication. Trunk spatter wrong and reproduction boosters on all of them. Nice paint and the LS6 glowed in the sun.

More wrong with those cars than what you mentioned. That seller is the “King of Fluff” and knows how to lay a car out for those auctions….he is very good at it. MS Classics just sold a green R/S ‘69 Z for $160 (almost positive on the number) on BaT that was likely a better car for 1/2 of the B-J sale price.
If I’m not mistaken, the seller at B-J is the same guy that got something north of $200k for a ‘65 Chevelle convertible (with a color change) a few years ago.

[NorCam]

When you get a car fluffed to that level and put it in front of deep pockets who are itching for another toy while drinking & boasting amongst themselves, it's the perfect storm to pull huge dough. Of course timing over the block plays a big part of this and depends who you are as a seller, and what you bring to BJ stakeholders.

Curious to know if JM produces page 2/3 of his reports to go with the cars and details all the things that are wrong with a resto? Somehow I doubt that there would be additional pages to discredit incorrect items of a car, and that it's just the CERTIFICATE that Barrett is paying him for? Curious to know how that is posted onsite?

Full on report...or just the CERT posted publicly? :dunno:

[Z282NV]

Maybe the Fathon green one sold for more than the Lemans Blue and Garnet Red ones because it had the 302 emblems on the cowl hood?

I must say the body and paint work on all 3 cars was beautifully done but can't speak on what other parts (other than missing emblems) was right or wrong on the cars.

[Copo_Cartel]

Those cars would not even be eligible for Camaro Legends judging in Chicago or Morgantown.

[lycan]

Anyone know the reserve price on this green Z/28?


We all know that the big auction houses can & will "shill bid" up to the reserve price (they say so, in writing). I'm just wondering if there really were two (or more) bidders driving this one into the stratosphere

[Z282NV]

Anyone know the reserve price on this green Z/28?


We all know that the big auction houses can & will "shill bid" up to the reserve price (they say so, in writing). I'm just wondering if there really were two (or more) bidders driving this one into the stratosphere

No reserve on any (just maybe a few on the high end million dollar cars) of the cars going over the block at Barrett Jackson. It's not like Mecum.

[Hans L]

Attending Barrett Jackson and watched that RS Z on the block. Pretty crazy near the end to watch. My assessment - Paint was overall excellent. Lots of questionable paint dabs and markings. Subframe has notable pitting. Various technical issues. Overall, very clean car though and presents well.

Here's some pics of the car on the floor -

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[CamarosRus]

How does a "Live" bidder present at Scottsdale know if he's bidding against a REAL
Internet bidder, or BJ Shill ???????

I will never comprehend who most of these deep pocket bidders are & where/how they created so much discretionary income !!!!!!!!!

[1crossram]

Car looks great but as many a Canadian might say "Blow at high dough". To coin a Gord Downie tune. $430,000. CDN plus import fees to Canada.

[x33rs]

I know Bill didn't want to see those prices lol.

For the small things wrong with most cars there it doesn't seem to matter much anymore, most was easy to correct. The cars are following the prices of everything else these days. It was a good time and David and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Thanks Bill!

[rlw68]

I expected there would be some nice documentation, at very least the PoP. How is the axle known to 'matching numbers original' otherwise :confused2:

[Billohio]

I know Bill didn't want to see those prices lol.

For the small things wrong with most cars there it doesn't seem to matter much anymore, most was easy to correct. The cars are following the prices of everything else these days. It was a good time and David and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Thanks Bill!

Larry I just told my dad the same things I told you are David while that was selling. He laughed just like you did

[DW31S]

How does a "Live" bidder present at Scottsdale know if he's bidding against a REAL
Internet bidder, or BJ Shill ???????

I will never comprehend who most of these deep pocket bidders are & where/how they created so much discretionary income !!!!!!!!!

The inexperienced ones don’t; lots of smoke and mirrors involved. I quit going out there years ago. I knew sellers that didn’t get what they wanted and bought their car back to make it appear that the car sold. Under “no reserve” conditions, the only guarantee is that there is no guarantee.
I’m with you 110% on the money. I’d bet many are sick come Monday morning when they fly home and realize just what happened.

[CamarosRus]

I have "discarded" assy line 1970 Camaro Mufflers that dont have STENCILED part numbers....Ive never seen this before .....Is that what a "$300K Fluffer" gets ????

[JRSully]

IMO, BJ now concentrates on attracting the wealthiest people, that love to see themselves on TV, instead of the cars. How many Restomod Corvettes/Broncos/Blazers can you look at.? Yes they sprinkle in a Hemi Cuda or Superbird every now and then, but the real cars seem to have gone to Mecum. I think what those people paid for those 69 Z's was a perfect example. Fuel them up and let Superwealthy guy #1 have a contest with Superwealthy guy #2 in the next seat, seems that is what the enjoy most, not the pursuit of the car

[Xplantdad]

I know Bill didn't want to see those prices lol.

For the small things wrong with most cars there it doesn't seem to matter much anymore, most was easy to correct. The cars are following the prices of everything else these days. It was a good time and David and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Thanks Bill!


Sorry we missed you , Larry (and Bill)

[Bill Pritchard]

How many Restomod Corvettes/Broncos/Blazers can you look at.? Yes they sprinkle in a Hemi Cuda or Superbird every now and then, but the real cars seem to have gone to Mecum.

Agreed. I started going to B-J in 1996 and have only missed about 5 years (including this one) since. The change in their type of auction cars has been very noticeable since that time. Mecum was very smart holding their January auction in Florida. Given that 2/3 of the US population lives east of the Mississippi River, the logistics make more sense.

[Billohio]

Sorry we missed you , Larry (and Bill)

I did end up at pavilions, I should have let you know Bruce.

[69L78]

More wrong with those cars than what you mentioned. That seller is the “King of Fluff” and knows how to lay a car out for those auctions….he is very good at it. MS Classics just sold a green R/S ‘69 Z for $160 (almost positive on the number) on BaT that was likely a better car for 1/2 of the B-J sale price.
If I’m not mistaken, the seller at B-J is the same guy that got something north of $200k for a ‘65 Chevelle convertible (with a color change) a few years ago.

Dave, You are correct on the seller from your neck of the woods Casey C. He is also the same seller that bought the local 69 Silver Z that was sitting outside in Hbg, PA for years, it was a complete rust bucket w/born with drivetrain, he got crazy money for it as well.

[x33rs]

Sorry we missed you , Larry (and Bill)

I didnt know you were going to be there Bruce. We go to BJ every year just hasn't been consistent on which day or days. We were at the pavs as well. I'll give you a heads up next time so we can catch up. We'll be at the pavs again soon. Hope you had a good time.

[BCreekDave]

Can someone post a link to the Fathom green car in the OP's post #1 at the B-J auction? I've looked and can't find it. Are the pictures in post 10 the only photos? Thanks.

[x33rs]

Lot #1096.1 on BJ'site

[Z282NV]

Can someone post a link to the Fathom green car in the OP's post #1 at the B-J auction? I've looked and can't find it. Are the pictures in post 10 the only photos? Thanks.

There is no link to those photos. OP inserted his own pictures here. However these are the photos on BJ's website.

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/scottsdale-2025/docket/vehicle/1969-chevrolet-camaro-z28-rs-281210#photos

[x33rs]

Larry I just told my dad the same things I told you are David while that was selling. He laughed just like you did

So much for green hurting the price lol

[L16pilot]

Did anyone notice all three mufflers and the driveshaft have the same PN stenciled????

[169indy]

There is no link to those photos. OP inserted his own pictures here. However these are the photos on BJ's website.

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/scottsdale-2025/docket/vehicle/1969-chevrolet-camaro-z28-rs-281210#photos

It Looks like a few A body photos are in this B-J Linked Set to me, Strange

[BCreekDave]

Did anyone notice all three mufflers and the driveshaft have the same PN stenciled????
Have you checked the cost of a stencil lately? Not cheap. Of course they are re-used.

[Xplantdad]

I did end up at pavilions, I should have let you know Bruce.


It's all good! I just replied to your PM :)

[Xplantdad]

I didnt know you were going to be there Bruce. We go to BJ every year just hasn't been consistent on which day or days. We were at the pavs as well. I'll give you a heads up next time so we can catch up. We'll be at the pavs again soon. Hope you had a good time.




Perfect! It's always great to hang out with you, Larry. I still need a ride in the Formula, too :headbang:

[Hans L]

Did anyone notice all three mufflers and the driveshaft have the same PN stenciled????

Yes, all three of the Z's had the stenciled numbers on the mufflers as did the Gold '70 LS6.

[Rsconv68]

There were 5 cars that appeared to be owned by the same seller. They all had the same windshield lettering. I found it interesting all 5 had muffler stencils, the extra stickers for something, lots of paint dabs, and stuff I have never seen before. Also, the X-Ram cars sold for much less. Dunno.

[x33rs]

Perfect! It's always great to hang out with you, Larry. I still need a ride in the Formula, too :headbang:

We can make that happen :)

[x33rs]

There were 5 cars that appeared to be owned by the same seller. They all had the same windshield lettering. I found it interesting all 5 had muffler stencils, the extra stickers for something, lots of paint dabs, and stuff I have never seen before. Also, the X-Ram cars sold for much less. Dunno.

Yes, the LS6 and at least 3 Z's were the same seller. Could have been more I don't remember. Were they over restored? Sure. Were they nice? Absolutely very nice cars. More importantly they were all born with drivetrains which many put so much emphasis on. They were all certified as such and it's obvious the people liked them. They all sold pretty high despite the colors. It was thought the desert sand on the LS6 would hurt it a bit but it went high anyway. And who would of thought a green Z would outsell a red or blue Z. I may be bias since mine is green but that's an inside joke with Bill.

I honestly don't care if mufflers have stenciled part numbers or not. If ya don't like it I can give you a rag and some lacquer thinner and take care of that in about 3 seconds :)

Hey Bill, I'll put a stamp on my muffler if ya want. Does that up the price? Lol

[BCreekDave]

Curiosity got the best of me so I looked up the number on the GMWIKI. Looks like it is for the driveshaft. I do like the car though. Reminds me of a deceased friends car back in the 80's. His was non-RS but with an Endura bumper. Black Deluxe gut. Wish I knew where it went.

[Xplantdad]

We can make that happen :)



Way cool!:headbang:

[Hans L]

Here's some more pics for amusement. I'm not knocking the builds/restorations. The paint and details in general are excellent. Some issues noted was pitting on the subframe and control arms weren't properly repaired, cowl tag and VIN tags were hard to read, but overall all three Zs and the LS6 were nice clean cars in my opinion. They should not be construed as factory correct restorations nor Legends grade cars. Made-up tags, PNs, dabs, graffiti, etc. I'm really not sure what to call them - nice custom restorations?

Only concern is that others will replicate all these dabs, tags, and graffiti and think its correct, which will generate arguments and challenges later.

It is interesting that the Fathom Green RS Z went for nearly 2X the Garnet Red and LeMans Blue Zs. The seller definitely knew his customer base and built the cars accordingly.


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[L16pilot]

Hans - wish I had known you were there. I was there Thurs-Sat with Steitz and Dino...would have been great to meet up.

[Hans L]

Steve - that's funny! We were there Fri/Sat, pretty much all day both days. Fun show! Next time!

Hans

[RPOLS3]

All that effort and Chinese boosters..........

[bcmiller]

Driveshafts never got stenciled. They did get stripes.