Non Chevy Supercars

[Chris396]

What non Chevy musclecars do you consider to be Supercars? Would any Hemi car count? How about Royal Bobcat? Is a Shelby Mustang a Supercar? Super stock AMX? The Twister Fords?

[bowtie3168]

That list sounds like a good start.

[Fhakya]

I think as far as Hemi cars that I would include the Hurst Modified '68 Dart/Barracuda's..and some of the Grand Spaulding 'tuners'. Royal Bobcat - Pontiac, Markowitz(sp?)- Olds, the Shelby's/Boss 429's/Saleen/Roush, Hurst Modded SS AMX's and others that improved performance after rolling out the factories doors would qualify IMHO.
-Mark

[Arctic Z Dan]

Any Hemi Dart, Daytona, Charger, Super Bee, Coronet, Challenger.
Any Hemi Plymouth Superbird, GTX, Road Runner, 'Cuda, Satellite, etc.
Any Boss 429 Mustangs, any Shelby cars, etc.

BTW, check out the 1964 427 "Hemi" Ford Thunderbolt in this month's issue of Muscle Car Review. Great mag. Has a 1968 Dick Harrell Chevelle SS 427 on the cover! Dan http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/cool.gif

I AM NOT A "MOPAR MAN" BUT I HAVE TO SHOW YOU GUYS WHAT I FOUND 3 BLOCKS FROM MY NEW HOUSE. I SEEN IT ON MY WAY HOME FROM WORK ONE DAY LAST WEEK. IT IS A 1963 DODGE 300 WITH A 426 MAX WEDGE ENGINE, A FULL ALUMINUM FRONT END WITH HOOD SCOOP, AND 401 MILES. IT WAS BOUGHT NEW IN CHICAGO. IT IS A 2 OWNER CAR. I HAVE CONTACTED THE ORIGINAL OWNER WHO IS FROM MONMOUTH,IL. AND HE IS EAGER TO HELP ME WITH PICS, ETC. THE GUY I BOUGHT IT FROM HAS OWNED IT SINCE 1966. IT WAS RACED AT CORDOVA DRAGWAY IN ILLINOIS FROM 1963 TILL 1979. THE CAR WAS THEN PUT IN STORAGE UNTIL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. THE OWNER TOOK PRECAUTIONS BEFORE HE RESTORED IT. HE TOOK THE FRONT END, MOTOR, AND TRANNY IN THE BASEMENT OF HIS HOUSE IN FEAR THAT IT WOULD BE STOLEN! THE ORIGINAL MOTOR AND TRANNY WERE PUT IN A TRACTOR FOR TRACTOR-PULLS. MARLIN, YOU ARE RIGHT, THERE IS GOOD CORN IN IOWA!!!

[GMH454]

AND you are going to restore it in which configuration......hope its the racing one.
Sounds like fun

[Belair62]

What dealer sold the car in Chicago??? Is it a Mr.Norm car ? Love that aluminum

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Here it is, hopefully....
M

http://www.boomspeed.com/yenko/mopar1.JPG

http://www.boomspeed.com/yenko/mopar2.JPG

[Rat_Pack]

Man that is one cool Mopar! That car needs to be restored to its former glory. The history on the car sounds great. Good Luck..........RatPack...............

[bowtie3168]

Hey guys check out the post that I made about www.arniebeswick.com (http://www.arniebeswick.com) , you might find out some cool Pontiac Supercar info.

Andrew

[Fhakya]

on a side note...Boomspeed seems to SUCK! Every post that I've seen on this board takes like a minute to load...if it does at all. I'm on a cable modem and this reminds me of my 14.4K days.
just my $.02

[Rick]

I have a 1967 Fitch Firebird. It was a
conversion car like the Shelbys and Yenkos. The cars were done by a road racer named John Fitch in CT.To the best
of his recollection he made between 6-12
cars.

The cars had a reworked steering box & brakes, special shocks, Lucas driving lights, screen over the lights, one time
wiper switch, headlight flasher switch, light monitoring panel, and sail panels
that sat on top of the rear quarters that ran from the roof line down to the
tail light panel. This made the car look
like a AMX from side.

All the cars were 400ci engines with the exception of one Sprint OHC-6 car(which is mine).

He also did 64-69 Corvair conversions called Fitch Sprints, and a one off car of his own using 66 corvair drivetrain.

[JoeC]

Rick, Can you post a picture of your 67 Fitch Firebird? I live in CT and was looking at the Fitch Phoenix production car #1 (and only) on display at the Lime Rock vintage Trans Am race on Sep 3 2001. John Fitch was at the show but I couldn't find him. I have a book about him. He was a W.W.II fighter pilot, car builder, sports car driver, helped design Lime Rock Raceway, designed highway safety barriers and more. Interesting guy.

[NC Guy]

Gents:

Supercars you ask? GM, Ford and Chrylser produced a TON of them from 1954-1973. GM and Dalimer/Chrysler still produce them today! Witness the 2002 Viper, Z06 Corvette and the SS Camaro/Firebird. These are excellent examples of modern day muscle cars. It took the American car manufactors 35 years to get it right...but they finally did!

Check out Floyd Garrett's Muscle Car collection at http://www.musclecarmuseum.com/ Its' worth your time if you're in the area.

Enjoy your cars.

[Michael]

There are many Supercars, but it's hard to beat a "HEMI"!!!

[JoeC]

here is a photo of the Fitch Firebird. thanks Rick I never saw one before. Looks like its in great shape.

http://members.aol.com/hotjob57679/images/fitchb3.jpg

[Edited by JoeC (10-01-2001 at 10:18 AM).]

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Cool pic!! Did Fitch do any engine mods or swaps?? I like the color http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/laugh.gif.
M

[bkhpah]

What was the purpose of the fins? The car looks very nice!..BKH

[Rick]

The fins on the Fitch really have no purpose other than styling. Although air does pass through the center of them. Fitch
claims no functional purpose.
Fitch engine mods:
400ci cars: low pressure exhaust,headers,throttle linkage, & on automatic cars a modified shifter (not sure how),Judson 30k volt coil.

OHC Sprint car: Hotter cam, 30k volt Judson coil, true dual exhaust, Fitch started to make his own supercharger for it but never finished it.

The Fitch package cost about $1000 more than the sticker price of a comparable optioned Firebird.
The OHC cam car is fun to drive. 6500 rpm red line, backed by a 4 speed with a 3.11:1 first gear. Fitch being a road racer preferred the OHC car saying it had the power you needed most of the time and the 400 just made the car more nose heavy. I feel the OHC car can stay with any v8 0-60mph, but doesn't have the top end.

My car from the factory had rally gages, hood tach, tilt, wood wheel,am/fm, console, trim group,deluxe int, deluxe seat belt w/shouder straps, radial tires floor mats. The billing history shows it was billed to the Pontiac Engineering dept and given to Fitch to develope his package.

Thanks for the comments, Rick

[Edited by Rick (10-01-2001 at 09:49 PM).]

[Chris396]

Cool! I love to see the lesser known Dealer cars.