Higher value 69 Chevelle COPO 427 or L-78/L89?

[70 copo]

Calling all Chevelle experts! Question: given two cars in the same condition - one a 427 COPO the other the 375HP 396 with Alum. head option- (both 4 speed M-22) which is more valuable? Desirable?

[sixtiesmuscle]

You're kidding, right??? Rarity does not necessarily equate to desireability, although the production numbers are probably similar. IMO, the COPO is worth 50% more. I'd sure be interested in other's opinions though, as, I sold one of each in the last two years. In this market , however, a year, heck, six months makes a big difference.

[Tenney]

Not professing any level of expertise, here, but would certainly prefer the COPO.

[COPO PETE]

COPO!
Peter

[micky69396]

The L-89 is the better looking engine in my opinion, but the COPO brings more bucks for sure.

[Keith Tedford]

Although not an L89 car, our L78 car would be gone in a heart beat if I was offered the amount for it that I was offered for our disassembled COPO car. It's not so much the product as the mindset of people that sets the price.

[Belair62]

I don't care much for COPO Chevelles !

[Rat_Pack]

Bob I have a BB Camaro here that I will trade you heads up for your black car............RatPack.................

And my car has the same wheels as yours!!!!!!!

[Belair62]

How many Camaros we talking about ? http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

[Charley Lillard]

Bob is turning into a Camaro Guy. Uh Oh.

[A69COPO2]

So what is a COPO Chevelle worth apart, with a ton of NOS for restoration? I just might let mine go, LOL.........COPO is most definently the choise......8-)

[Mr70]

I would guess you are talking about the year 1969 of course with both fully documented.
With 400 L-89's made, to 224 COPO's made (Non-Yenko).Give me the L-89 because it is in Super Sport dressing as opposed to plain Jane Malibu dressing.
I like the trim and options better on a Super Sport model.They just look better.
Now if the L-89 was in a 1970 Super Sport Chevelle (18 made),then I jump over 10 COPO's to get to that car as well! I am biased to the 70 here.
Don't get me wrong,I wouldn't throw a COPO away,but if I had to choose between these two,that is what I would pick.
As stated before,rarity does NOT determine desirability.

[mhassett]

I have a '69 L-89 Chevelle and a '69 Yenko Camaro and in my opinion when you open the hoods of both cars the L-89 Engine looks More Impressive. Looking at my sticker a 396/375 Engine ($252.80) plus L-89 Aluminum Cylinder Heads (394.95) adds to $747.75 how much was the COPO Option, if anyone might know? I do AGREE that the COPO is a step ABOVE the L-89 and is Worth MORE Money. Mark

[SuperCars]

I agree with sixtiesmuscle Mike. A COPO is worth at least 50% more. The question asked was on value or worth. Desirability of one versus the other, fall's under one's own personal preference; to which no one could say that person is right or wrong when it comes to wanting to own one. I personally, would consider the COPO to be more desirable to most.


[Edited by SuperCars (01-06-2002 at 08:54 AM).]

[Edited by SuperCars (01-06-2002 at 09:05 AM).]

[JoeC]

I don't understand why people say the COPO and Yenko Chevelle had Malibu trim. There is no Malibu trim on the outside of a COPO or Yenko Chevelle except for the bowtie on the grill. The COPO has blacked out SS grill, SS eyebrow trim, SS hood, SS tail panel trim, SS parking lights, SS side lights, and the other SS pieces. The COPO even used the SS wheels. It does not have the Malibu lower trim or side lights, and no Malibu emblem on the quarter panel. The COPO was not an SS or a Malibu. It was a specially built car using mostly SS parts but used a special code engine, rear end, and trans (if automatic). In my opinion, Chevy did not want to build the high performance COPO cars and sell them to the public but they had to do it to get them on the race track. Chevy probably lost money on the COPO car sales but used them to get free publicity from drag racing and this helped to sell more cars overall. This is one reason the for the high value of COPO cars.

[copo9566aa]

The COPO Chevelle

[70 copo]

COPO seems to be the clear winner! The only difference seems to reside in the area of personal taste. The alum. heads add extra "car show" touch to the 396 car, but it appears that having the "COPO" is the option that pure investment grade collectors desire. Thanks again.

[Keith Tedford]

We paid $649 CDN for our COPO option on the Chevelle. When people speak of the Malibu trim, I think they are referring to the interior. The only SS piece in there was, in some cases, the steering wheel emblem. Ours had the blue bow tie. The outside was all SS less the SS396 emblems. The blue bow tie filled the holes in the grill. The COPO cars were 13637 models which translates into Malibu hardtops. The extra cost of building a COPO car over that of the L78 cars would probably have been minimal. Everything was a direct bolt in replacement and GM was already building the L72 motor for the big cars. The only special piece that I have seen on the car was the KQ rearend. The automatic cars got a special transmission. I'd think that GM made a buck on these cars as well.
I've seen Don Lightfoots L78/L89 Chevelle and the engine compartment certainly draws attention.

[Belair62]

SS 396 emblems may look fancier.....but it looks backward in the rearview mirror ! which is where an L89 would be if it pulled up to a light with a COPO !!! Meet you on Rte.83 Mr.70....bring your pink !!! http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/wink.gif

[mhassett]

I've been waiting to hear this comment. The L-78 has the same cam as the '66 427-425HP Corvette. The 375HP is Under-Rated, plus the L-89 is lighter. I think it would be a close race. Mark

[JoeC]

The reason I say Chevy lost money on the COPO cars is because of the engineering costs. Engineering costs are very high but when divided over 500,000 cars it is not that much per unit. With only about 1000 hi po COPO cars built in 1969 there was no economy of scale.

[Belair62]

There's still no substitute for cubic inches..plus I only weigh 160 lbs. so I still have the edge ! Plus Mr 70 is from the south side...they never figured out how to drive down there.

[Edited by Belair62 (01-06-2002 at 05:32 PM).]

[70 copo]

I have personally felt the power of the iron 427 and the ZL-1 in a Camaro. I guess the car that really impressed me the most in the last couple of years was the 68 NOVA that won the MCR stock appearing shootouts. This car should leave no doubt concerning the performance potential of a properly tuned 396 car.

[COPO PETE]

.....if it is a 396 car!
Peter

[JoeC]

The 1969 L78 and the L72 were very similar engines and shared many parts. From memory I believe the crank, cam, 840 heads, Holley, dist, intake and exhaust manifolds were the same part numbers. The L72 just had 31 more cu in. Chevy originally rated it at 450hp then reduced it to 425hp with no modifications.

[9566 BA]

What about the 69 SS 396 Orange post car with a L-89 that's in Floyd Garretts museum. I am told there was only 6 of those made. Would it bring COPO money.

[Edited by 9566 BA (01-07-2002 at 07:11 AM).]

[copo9566aa]

COPO is a magic name,this name open many doors, L89 is just and addon,
and COPO 427-425 HP is comparable with a Mopar Hemi 426-425 HP
Chevelle SS396(375 HP) is not comparable with a B Body Mopar Hemi.

[Chevy454]

In STOCK trim, the 2 engines are probably close to 1hp per cubic inch, which gives the edge to the L-72, by about 30hp. The weight savings of the L-89 is probably around 150(?) pounds. I would rather have the 30hp http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif.

And like Pete said, the 396 Nova that was mentioned earlier probably shouldn't be used as a reference...I'm thinking it's not quite stock.;)

[Edited by Chevy454 (01-07-2002 at 03:09 PM).]

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Hi all,

I don't know if this is cool but I am posting to bring this old Topic back to the active posts.

Great stuff in here, right up my alley.

IMHO I am with MR70 and Mickey Hale, L89 is damn sexy, and win or lose I would love to chase down a COPO with one some day.

Ryan


http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/02/full-13277-2568-img_5711_2.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/02/full-13277-2569-4d_3.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/02/full-13277-2570-8e_3.jpg
http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/02/full-13277-2571-76_3.jpg

[Postsedan]

Ryan,

Trust me, You"ll never catch a COPO Chevelle with an L89 Chevelle. Two different animals.

I am a huge fan of both. But, if someone said you had to pick one..... I would choose a COPO Chevelle all day.

Dan

[GTO_DON]

Theres no replacement for displacement Fact.

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Solid argument.

Not a decision I need to make personally in the near future. L89 vs Copo.

Ryan

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mhassett</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've been waiting to hear this comment. The L-78 has the same cam as the '66 427-425HP Corvette. The 375HP is Under-Rated, plus the L-89 is lighter. I think it would be a close race. Mark </div></div>I hate to say it but you are so wrong. Having had one of each back in the day, although the L78 is a strong engine it does not measure up to the427-425. The 427 was a beast compared to the 396.

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

I would love to have that frame of reference.

Ryan

[L78M22Rag]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Great stuff in here, right up my alley.

IMHO I am with MR70 and Mickey Hale, L89 is damn sexy, and win or lose I would love to chase down a COPO with one some day.

</div></div>

Ditto... I hope to do just that!

[Postsedan]

Hey Albert,

I hear a Challenge up for a COPO Chevelle vs. an L89 Chevelle, who`s up for a drag race at SCR16?

Albert has raced his COPO many a times, my money`s on the COPO.

Dan

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

I bet you one bag full of bias ply tire smoke that the L89 wins.

Ryan

[mockingbird812]

a poorly tuned, poorly driven COPO Chevelle with a poorly set up chassis could be beaten handily by an L89 equipped 396. IMO, all things equal, the one that passes more air (427) wins the race. should be close though (2/10s <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif)

[GreenLS6]

Was trying to figure out which car to bring to SCR16, My 69 L89 or the the 68 Z.... Hmmm Sounds like a Gauntlet has been thrown down..I don't own a car thats poorly tuned or not frequently abused! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif Can I get in on this action?

[Postsedan]

Tim,

If your thinking of bringing The Glacier Blue L89 Post Sedan, there is NOTHING STOCK on that motor.....we need a completely bone stock L89 Chevelle. Nice try Tim <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

But Tim please do bring the Glacier Blue Post to SCR16, love to see her again....I`ll even say for the record you`ll be the fastest Abody Car at SCR16 on a bias ply tire.

Dan

[Alss]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> a poorly tuned, poorly driven COPO Chevelle with a poorly set up chassis </div></div>

Thats me <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif

[Postsedan]

Albert,

Your such a modest man <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

Dan

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

If the COPO is so much faster than the L89 a &quot;few hidden mods&quot; should fair it up for a great race. (That is a kick a## race no matter who wins)

Come on, make it happen.........

Ryan

[m22mike]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alss</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> a poorly tuned, poorly driven COPO Chevelle with a poorly set up chassis </div></div>

Thats me <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif </div></div>

And you still beat my sorry ass... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/blush.gif

[Xplantdad]

Hey Mike....get with the program. They're talking about drag racing! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif

[budnate]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alss</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mockingbird812</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> a poorly tuned, poorly driven COPO Chevelle with a poorly set up chassis </div></div>

Thats me <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif </div></div>


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/budnate/SCR%209/th_DSCN5360.jpg (http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/budnate/SCR%209/?action=view&amp;current=DSCN5360.mp4)

[Alss]

or this one..also by Bud <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

http://s518.beta.photobucket.com/user/restoman20/media/DSCN5359.mp4.html

that aint no 396 <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/no.gif

[Postsedan]

I remember that day well <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif AH....this is sweet music to my ear!
Albert will you be attending SCR16?

Dan

[L78racer]

L89 is a weight difference of 78 pounds. (about the weight of one iron head)
The 427 will be quicker.

[GreenLS6]

I didn't Buy his Motor - I built my own for Pure stocks. Spent 5 hours certifying it with Bob Boden ( Guy that puts on the Pure Stock Drags ) Went over every inch of it. Saw that F.A.S.T. class was dying and couldn't do it to that Beautiful car. So instead of Low 10's it will be High 11's.. Still not to shabby<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tim,

If your thinking of bringing The Glacier Blue L89 Post Sedan, there is NOTHING STOCK on that motor.....we need a completely bone stock L89 Chevelle. Nice try Tim <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

But Tim please do bring the Glacier Blue Post to SCR16, love to see her again....I`ll even say for the record you`ll be the fastest Abody Car at SCR16 on a bias ply tire.

Dan </div></div>

[budnate]

yea she thumps real crisp.....she was freshly done back then, it has to be ready for some redline action now....... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

[Postsedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: budnate</div><div class="ubbcode-body">yea she thumps real crisp.....she was freshly done back then, it has to be ready for some redline action now....... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif </div></div>

What do you say Albert?

Dan

[Postsedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GreenLS6</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I didn't Buy his Motor - I built my own for Pure stocks. Spent 5 hours certifying it with Bob Boden ( Guy that puts on the Pure Stock Drags ) Went over every inch of it. Saw that F.A.S.T. class was dying and couldn't do it to that Beautiful car. So instead of Low 10's it will be High 11's.. Still not to shabby<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tim,

If your thinking of bringing The Glacier Blue L89 Post Sedan, there is NOTHING STOCK on that motor.....we need a completely bone stock L89 Chevelle. Nice try Tim <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

But Tim please do bring the Glacier Blue Post to SCR16, love to see her again....I`ll even say for the record you`ll be the fastest Abody Car at SCR16 on a bias ply tire.

Dan </div></div> </div></div>

So this means your attending SCR16? Not too shabby, <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

I`m hoping you can make it. I`ll get Greg to attend aswell.

Dan

[GreenLS6]

Yup, I'll be there. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif
Especially since it's dedicated to Pete.

I think you will like the way the car finished up.

[Alss]

Dan, I'll say I'll try....I will be in Ohio the weekend before...with the other the car...thats alot of miles <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/frown.gif

[Postsedan]

Yeah, that is way too much driving..... Bummer. Perhaps you can get Tom and Ryan to do the driving and you ride shot-gun the entire trip <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/dunno.gif

Dan

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Are you talking about the weekend before at Strongesville Ohio Aug 2-3?

I am working on final approvals with Beautiful (coma) Chevelle loving wife for both shows.

I am a spectator so it's much easier for me, (less gas,etc)

Ryan

[Postsedan]

Ryan,

SCR16 will be held the weekend of August 10th, 2013 at Gateway Motorsports Park, which is located near Madison/Collinsville, IL, just East of St. Louis.

Dan

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Agreed,

Albert mentioned Ohio the week before. (I was asking if he going to the NOCC show?)

Ryan

[Alss]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are you talking about the weekend before at Strongesville Ohio Aug 2-3?

I am working on final approvals with Beautiful (coma) Chevelle loving wife for both shows.

I am a spectator so it's much easier for me, (less gas,etc)

Ryan



</div></div>
yes Ryan I am..NOCC is one of the best shows going..if you don't have fun there..your dead!

[ss427copo]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ryan,

Trust me, You&quot;ll never catch a COPO Chevelle with an L89 Chevelle. Two different animals.

I am a huge fan of both. But, if someone said you had to pick one..... I would choose a COPO Chevelle all day.

Dan </div></div>


.......or an L72 Camaro either

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Strongsville Ohio NOCC is just 5 hours away, (officially on the calendar)

St Louis is 11, so I am opting out of SCR16. (&quot;feel shame&quot; Slap Shot reference) You all have a great time.

Make it a great tribute to COPO Pete.

Ryan

[Postsedan]

Ryan,

Here is a glimpse of the fun at the NOCC. I too hope to make it, but it`s not looking good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wU5C4h04J0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFxtTrwU7tQ

Dan

[budnate]

...SCR9.....driving the Old Mans Car like you Stole it.....L-88 <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/budnate/SCR%209/th_DSCN5362.jpg (http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/budnate/SCR%209/?action=view&amp;current=DSCN5362.mp4)

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Hi Dan,

Keep it on the maybe list.

Hi Bud,

That car sounds ridiculous (in a good way)

Ryan

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Maybe the 1969 Chevelle SS 396 L78/L89 vs 1969 Chevelle COPO L72 will play out at PSMCR this year?

I'll donate a gallon of good gas for each car.

Ryan

[Alss]

Ryan..mine's run a best [email protected] ply tires, full exhaust, point ignition,no tach..the only way to know if I over revved it is the alt belt turns around!..too much fun! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif..I love driving this car.

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Your COPO right?

Have you ever come to PSMCDR? (HOW ABOUT SEPTEMBER 2013?)

Ryan

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Last year: 1969 Chevelle SS 396/375 4spd is in the top 25 fastest, Justin Maher 13.043 @108.40 mph

This car flies.

Ryan

Driving your cars is the only way to go, I love trailer queens to look at but bias ply won't burn themselves.

[L78M22Rag]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe the 1969 Chevelle SS 396 L78/L89 vs 1969 Chevelle COPO L72 will play out at PSMCR this year?

I'll donate a gallon of good gas for each car.

Ryan </div></div>
And my L89 is soooo close to being ready... maybe I'll have to take a rain check?

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg155/helmuteckert/69L89Fathom_zps6c14ae0e.jpg

[GreenLS6]

Mine might be a little closer. And it will be at Pure stocks

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Hi Helmut, and Tim,

Can you guys send more info,

Helmut I thought you had a black L89?, do you have a pair? (pair of L89's not &quot;a pair&quot;)

Tim, is this a new addition?, it's not in your &quot;signature&quot; yet.

Ryan

Great news,

PS: I really don't care who races who I am just a 1969 Chevelle freak and want to see as many as possible race at PSMCDR, and meet the owners so I can get as much support as possible buying my next 69 (2014-2015) and racing at PSMCDR (2015-2016)

[GreenLS6]

I bought the car 1 1/2 years ago from Greg Cullum as a Roller. He was building it to be a FAST class car. I saw it and couldn't do it to this Beautiful creature. So I have spent the last 1 1/2 years bringing it back to the Less evil side of the force. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/grin.gif Now as a pure stocker she's ready to roll.

This thread definatly morphed into something else. I'm thinkin we need to start a new thread &quot;My kid can beat up your Honor role student&quot; <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Sorry to morph the thread. (My status has somehow changed from newbie to member, I hope my inability to stay on topic won't affect that..)

Great stuff here.

In the picture it looks Lemans blue, (also I missed the shinny trimmed post (Dan will not let me live that down) but this must be the dusk blue post....

Kick a## car.

Ryan

PS: What car do you normaly race at PSMCDR?

Pure Stock Is the Way to Rock ™

[Postsedan]

No Ryan,

It's Glacier Blue, was originally a Frost Green 300 Deluxe.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/Postsedan/Postsedan2011/P1010188.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/Postsedan/Postsedan2011/P1010189.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/Postsedan/Postsedan2011/P1010674.jpg

Dan

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

What a perfect car.

Nice job on that one.

Ryan

[L78M22Rag]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hi Helmut, and Tim,

Can you guys send more info,

Helmut I thought you had a black L89?, do you have a pair? (pair of L89's not &quot;a pair&quot;)

Tim, is this a new addition?, it's not in your &quot;signature&quot; yet.

Ryan

Great news,

PS: I really don't care who races who I am just a 1969 Chevelle freak and want to see as many as possible race at PSMCDR, and meet the owners so I can get as much support as possible buying my next 69 (2014-2015) and racing at PSMCDR (2015-2016)

</div></div>

Ryan, I am very fortunate to have a pair of 1969 L89 Chevelles. The Fathom Green car has a green bench / stick interior. Here is what's left of the build sheet that was once above the tank...

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg155/helmuteckert/L89Buildsheet_zps1a32afab.jpg

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Holy crap.

Thats like having 2 of 400 Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders all to your self. (Now they have some B79 EXT ORNMTS)

Ryan

[L78M22Rag]

My wife is really glad that I get my kicks out of cars and not cheerleaders!

[Postsedan]

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif

Dan

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/laugh.gif

As it should be.

Ryan

[firstgenaddict]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78M22Rag</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My wife is really glad that I get my kicks out of cars and not cheerleaders! </div></div>

My father-in-law collects cars and my mother-in-law says that at least she always knows what he's laying under... <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/haha.gif

[Postsedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Alss</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ryan..mine's run a best [email protected] ply tires, full exhaust, point ignition,no tach..the only way to know if I over revved it is the alt belt turns around!..too much fun! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif..I love driving this car. </div></div>

We LOVE seeing it, go...go...go <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/worship.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/Postsedan/P1010001-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/Postsedan/P1010003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/Postsedan/P1010002-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/Postsedan/P1010073.jpg

Dan

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Wow,

Albert: This car is epic.

Ryan

The stance is perfect.

[Alss]

thanks guys <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif

[GreenLS6]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: L78M22Rag</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My wife is really glad that I get my kicks out of cars and not cheerleaders! </div></div>

Cars are probably cheaper than the Alimony too! <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif Very nice

[GreenLS6]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Kick a## car.



PS: What car do you normaly race at PSMCDR?

Pure Stock Is the Way to Rock ™ </div></div>

A Forest Green white stripe LS6 4 speed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9q3sOIDl5Y

Had to run it as an auto one year -broke my foot.

The car is a beauty! What does it for me more than anything else is color.

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Hi Tim,

LS6 good choice, the last two years a couple black ones have been tearing it up.

Ryan

[Postsedan]

Tim,

Tell us ALL how much SLOWER the LS6 is compared to the L89 Post Sedan Chevelle <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

Dan

[GreenLS6]

Best run on the wide ovals has been 12.19@115 1.87 60 ft. ---11.68@116 1.58 60ft.with the et streets.

[GreenLS6]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Postsedan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tim,

Tell us ALL how much SLOWER the LS6 is compared to the L89 Post Sedan Chevelle <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/3gears.gif

Dan </div></div>
My LS6 is no slouch .I certified the LS6 - factory GM cam ,advertised comp. 11.25, no porting AT ALL.
Cam and carb are actually to small for the LS6 (SAME cam 396-427-454). ALL done makin power by 6200. I pick up 1 1/2 mph going to a 850cfm and pulls to 6500.

396 takes advantage of the NEW Pure stock rules with 1.5 over stock compression (12.5)with 50 less Cubes the factory cam retarded 3* degrees and 780 pulls<span style="font-weight: bold"> hard </span>to 6800 rpm. Same cam-same carb. Better utilized.. Also ZERO porting .The post car is 500lbs lighter with L89 heads and Deleted options. Only down 20 hp on dyno but allows to launch harder without blowing the tires! Less mass, lots power- goes vrrooomm.. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/burnout.gif
Take Erics 396 dyno Build, add 1.5 compression,retard cam,I went threw 60 rocker arms to find the Most lift,and tune to a razors edge. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

[Postsedan]

Just as I suspected..... thanks Tim

Dan

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

I can not wait till PSMCDR, I am on the list at the Comfortable Inn this year.

Your L89-Post will be too fast 11.5, will you be doing something to keep it from breaking out?

Ryan

I suck at staying on topic (can this topic be 1969 Chevelles?)

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

I missed an LOL after the 11.5, your Post Sedan will be a huge hit this year.

PS: Are you related to other Clary's in the Musclcar world?

Ryan

[GreenLS6]

Won't be. 11.50's ,My guess is 11.90's-.85... It's ok to dream- just not that big.

[Postsedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I missed an LOL after the 11.5, your Post Sedan will be a huge hit this year.

PS: Are you related to other Clary's in the Musclcar world?

Ryan </div></div>

The only relationship they share is SPEED!

Dan

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

Copy that, only &quot;Brothas from anutha mutha&quot;

11.90 is insane for a 69 Chevelle.

120 mph?

(Side note, off topic of course, Jimmy Johnstons Vette going 125 mph in the 1320 is reason enough to attend PSMCDR.)

Ryan

[John Brown]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ryan1969Chevelle</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Copy that, only &quot;Brothas from anutha mutha&quot;

11.90 is insane for a 69 Chevelle.

120 mph?

(Side note, off topic of course, Jimmy Johnstons Vette going 125 mph in the 1320 is reason enough to attend PSMCDR.)

Ryan </div></div>


Yah, but they all get beat by a <span style="font-weight: bold">GIRL</span>. <<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

&quot;Yah, but they all get beat by a GIRL.&quot;

Now that is a &quot;cup is half full&quot; statement if I ever heard one.

She kicks everyones A##.

Ryan

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/02/full-13277-2669-1969_corvette_l88_julie_1.jpg

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

This White ZL1 (One of the Simpson boys driving) got a jump on her one round...

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/usergals/2013/02/full-13277-2750-copo_and_julie_l88.jpg


Ryan