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The March feature car has a Diamond Certificate from Camaro Nationals. I have been trying to find out what it takes to achieve this. I have gone to numerous Camaro sites with no luck on specifics. Could someone direct me to the proper place or even explain it here? Thank You. Tony
bkhpah
03-12-2002, 11:35 AM
I do not know were or who's club this car was awarded a Diamond certificate. The Camaro show at GM Carlisle offers this type of judging, So does the Keystone Camaro club of Western PA. The WCA was offering a Diamond type judging. I have been a Diamiond Judge at all three of these events and have never seen this car. Never has a car achieved a Diamond level at its first show at Carlise. It is a three year deal. If a car can make it it does, it has not happened yet. There have been two Diamond cars at Keystone in the past four years.
The process looks at all aspects of the car. Driveline is looked at for proper dates, finishes etc. Body for fit, finish etc. Interior for finish, dated belts, overall condition and originality. Trunk area for finish, spare, jack equipment etc. and undercarriage for finish, correct components etc. There is a mechanical part for lights, horns, engine idle etc. Points are awarded for originality and condition. Each cars total points is different. You are only judged on your car. The amount of optional equippment will affect your total points. The car is only graded against itself. This is one of the hardest judgings around at Carlisle and Keystone. If anyone wants to try this out please contact me at
[email protected] There may be a few spots for Carlisle and for Keystone Camaro Club judging. It is by reservation only...BKH
BKH Thank You for the response. Tony
T Billigen
03-12-2002, 12:42 PM
Brian, which two cars have achieved a diamond certificate?
bkhpah
03-12-2002, 01:05 PM
1st gen was a blue 68 Yenko Camaro. Also a 1969 Yenko. 2nd gen cars include a 1979 rs with 2000 miles and a 78 Z/28 with low miles. That is from Keystone Camaro club. At Carlise GM a 69 ZL/1...BKH
Denis
03-12-2002, 07:31 PM
Interesting topic. Brian, if a given car doesn't get enough points to achieve Diamond certification, is it awarded Gold, Silver, etc? In other words, are there different levels or is it all-or-nothing?
mr gasser
03-12-2002, 09:55 PM
Brian for your info the award of gold and diamond were given in dearborn mich. by U.S.camaro club in 93& 94. Also does this mean you have to be there to know who gets diamond award..........
bkhpah
03-12-2002, 10:37 PM
Dom, I did not mean that if I did not look at the car it was not Diamond quality if that is what you are trying to say. I just stated that I did not judge it. I am sorry if it was taken that way. As for levels there are four. If a car does not qualify the first time it can be brought back for two more years to attain it. If no improvement were made in a given year it is not asked to come back...BKH
mr gasser
03-13-2002, 01:38 AM
I know the first part but didnt know second part......
Belair62
03-13-2002, 02:04 AM
Nice car Dom. This car been out of circulation for quite a while. I'll bet Sixties shed a tear when that one left !
bkhpah
03-13-2002, 11:46 AM
Even if a car does acheive a Diamond level the first time out, the owner can bring the car back again for the items that may have been judged incorrect. Some of the cars never make it to Diamond. It taked a serious effort to gain that level. As a judge, all areas that are called are reviewed with the owner. At that time the owner can then dispute any deductions. If at that time the owner can show that his car was equipped that way, the points are rewarded back. All judging is placed in a computer and is saved for the next year. Areas that have been improved on the next year are then are rewarded back to the car. If an owner does nothing the car is dismissed. There is always a wait to get this judging done. It takes about three hours to do the initial judging. After the first year it takes much less time. This judging is not for everyone, but it can be a learning experience for the owners and judges. Owners often learn a great deal about the car and the judges will often learn as well. Judging is always evolving. It is a great service to go through, but you have to have a good attitude. Judges do try to make it a pleasant time. At tleast the judges I work with...BKH
mr gasser
03-13-2002, 09:36 PM
Belair sixties didnt shed a tear he has 6 more hugger copos with dimond status......
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