427 head questions...

[Chevy454]

I have a few ?'s regarding the heads used on the '69 Camaros...so please bear with me!

1. What is the part # for the 840 head? the 291?

2. Was the 291 used on any '69 cars, or was this head just a service replacement?

3. Are the 291 & 840 identical?

I have been looking at my Chevrolet by the Numbers, and these questions came to mind. According to Colvin's book, the 840 ended production and the 291 began production in May of '69...is this too late for a COPO car?

Any ideas guys?



[Edited by Chevy454 (01-17-2001 at 06:13 PM).]

[COPO]

The exhaust valve is larger on the #291 heads. 1.72" vs 1.88". There were a number of COPO's built after May of '69 consequently they would likely have had #291 heads. Can't help you on the part #'s.

[Chevy454]

COPO:

Thanks for the help. I knew of the valve size difference, but was wondering about the other stuff...combustion chamber, ports, etc. Any idea?

[Mis B]

I'm not sure if I understand your question about the part number on 840 and 291 heads. The only numbers for the heads that I have seen is the casting numbers: 3919840 and 3964291. 840 heads are square ports while 291 heads are oval ports. Jerry MacNeish states that 291 heads may have been installed on late model 69 Camaros but none have been found to substantial that. Our 69 Berger is a late May car and has original 840 heads. The original engine block has a Feb casting date.
Hope that helps.

[COPO]

The #291 are most definitely square port heads. They are on the '70 LS-6 and the '70 L-78. I believe you may be thinking of the #290 which are oval ports. I have not seen a '69 w/#291 heads, but the info in CBTN says they ceased production in May of '69 on the 840's, so any solid lifter BB built after the existing stock was gone would have had the #291 heads. I can tell you the #840's are much easier to find.

[Mis B]

291 heads ARE square port. I need to proof read my posts closer. Thanks for catching the mistake.
We do not see either 840 or 291 heads at swap meets in this part of the country anymore. All the 840s I remember seeing were early 69 cast dates. I do have any extra set of good 291s.

[Chevy454]

I was just curious to see if the older 291 heads carried the same part # as the ones that are available in the GM Performance Parts catalog.

Does anyone have a set of the newer 291 heads? If so, are they the same as the old heads?

[bkhpah]

We currently have a 69 375 Chevelle that we are doing some minor touchup work on. It is a June car with F-23-9 840's on it...BKH

[Chevy454]

Thanks for the info guys. Just kind of wondering about something I read.

[Keith Tedford]

Our COPO Chevelle was shipped from Baltimore in late July. It has the 840 heads. However, the engine was built in early April. Obviously the heads were cast even earlier. Just because the car was built late in the year doesn't necessarily mean that you have a late year engine. It is my understanding the 291 heads were built with both large and small plugs. What heads did the late year L78 Camaros use? Were they large plug 291s? Correct me if I am wrong.

[Mr Yenko]

Hello everyone,
I have come across a set of 074 heads that look to have some cracks in the water jacket areas . Any idea what i should offer this guy for them? I will call my machine shop monday on what it will take to fix these, I just figured the castings were worth something. They are dated 10/69 .Thanx for any help with this question.

[COPO]

Over the past year most sets I have seen are ~$1,500-$1,800 for a fresh set and $1000 - $1200 for a set needing a valve job. I picked up a pair for $600 which were bare and needed new guides, but were not cracked or ported. Based on my experience, I'd say something less than $500.

[Mr Yenko]

Thanx COPO,
I was thinking somewhere in that area. He has a package deal that iam trying to come up with. Just being alittle careful cause he is the orig. owner to my COPO. He says he has other things to my car so i want to be a little nicer to him. Thanx again http://www.yenko.net/ubb/smilies/images/icons/smile.gif