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Fhakya
08-23-2002, 12:42 AM
I seem to recall a thread, some months ago, pertaining to the existence of a 70 L-78/TH400 Camaro. There was a car offered up as an example of being original. Is this it? http://www.camarogenerations.com/memberfiles/jackwhite.html (http://70 L-78/TH400 RS/SS)
Any input?

-Mark Holman

SS427
08-23-2002, 12:49 AM
Mark,
Is this the thread you are referring to? Your link won't open but it's the same one you supplied back then.
Rick
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=6944&Forum=UBB 1&Words=70%20L-78&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old =1year&Main=6935&Search=true#Post6944

Mr70
08-23-2002, 12:52 AM
I was thinking about this car the other day.
Can we learn anything more about it today?
Nelson you computer wiz you!

Charley Lillard
08-23-2002, 01:16 AM
Yes that is the same car. Yes Jack still has it. No he still won't let the build sheet be posted on the Internet. Yes I'm still willing to bet alot of cash that it is a real car. I hadn't thought about the drag racing angle though. So are you guys saying that a 70 L78 auto car can't be run in stock class because there is no proof of any being built ? Are you saying that if Jack comes forward with the proof that the NHRA would have to change what is allowed ? That might be a way to approach Jack.

CamarosRus
08-23-2002, 08:47 AM
As one of the owners of a survivor 1970 L-78 Camaro (M-21/4:10 12 Bolt) I have been very interested in the above thread. I would think that one of the best ways to determine a factory L-78 Automatic would be the lack of a 4 speed transmission shifter "hump" in the tunnel floor. Norwood cars didnt come with Build sheets but had L-78 on the trim tag, whereas the LA cars had build sheets with NO(L-78) trim tag markings......I just think its very unusual that with 600 1970 Camaro made, no one has any print,window sticker,build sheet,magazine articles or photo evidence of this application......Chuck Sharin

JoeC
08-23-2002, 04:31 PM
It is also unusual that NHRA would be asking for proof of a 1970 L78 auto. This means that NHRA has no record of one and they have production records on many of the hi po cars that were factory built and raced. You have to keep an open mind that it may be real but it will take some documentation to be believable. Also he states that the car had an interior change which means there is less evidence to check for. I'm not saying anything against the owner of the car. He may not realize why people are so interested.

Stefano
08-23-2002, 05:39 PM
Chuck,
600 is a fairly low production volume for such a desirable option, in my opinion. How many Documented L78 1970 Camaros survive today?

COPO
08-23-2002, 08:03 PM
It is surprising (and a bit suspicious) the owner will not let anyone see his buildsheet. It's not like there is anything secret on it or would help someone clone a car.

Stefano, I've owned 2 '70 L-78's Camaros and still have one an RS/SS w/matching #'s. I've seen five or six over the years. Rare car and probably undervalued given the 600 built.

Stefano
08-23-2002, 11:24 PM
COPO,
I agree they are one of my favorite Muscle Cars.

Charley Lillard
08-25-2002, 10:21 PM
He has let plenty of People see the Build Sheet. He also brings a copy of the real build sheet with him to shows. He just won't let it be posted on the Internet as he understands nothing about the Net. Two of our more knowledgable Club Members have seen the real sheet but there will apparently always be skeptics. I haven't yet seen the sheet but he did make the effort to bring it to a Club meeting that I happened to miss. I have enough Faith in the two Members that looked at the sheet that I'm still willing to bet a couple thousand dollars that the sheet and car are real. Any takers ?

69rsss350
08-25-2002, 10:47 PM
I'll bet acouple G's that Va. Tech beat Arkansas St. Today and I'll give you 55 points, that's about as far as I want to go unless I get to inspect the car. /ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif

COPO
08-26-2002, 12:29 AM
GO HOKIES!! /ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

COPO PETE
08-26-2002, 10:28 AM
I'd like to see this car. It reminds me of all the people that used to comment on my 1970 COPO Nova!
Peter /ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif

CamarosRus
08-27-2002, 02:13 PM
As far as I know no one has done a registry on the 1970 L-78 Camaro. I used to place ads in Hemmings and misc web sites when I was looking to buy one. I found several examples with unconfirmed(VIN number) ORIGINAL engines. Also found a few that were "restored" incorrectly and priced too high (IMHO).... and then also found another half dozen cars with no engine or trans.......It's my opinion that maybe 50 of the original 600 exist with the original engine BUT even that # might be way too high.....With all the knowledge, old magazines and dealer literature on this site, I would still like to see some PRINT evidence of the 1970 L-78/M-40(Turbo 400) ever being built. Could there have just been that ONE car in Calif and then the floor tunnel would not have a 4 spd hump correct??? ......Speaking of odd ball cars I ordered my first 1970 Z-28 with Turbo 400 on the column......how many of those were built????? ......Oh well, Chuck