427/425 Biscayne? [Archive] - The Supercar Registry

SS454Elky

11-13-2002, 04:25 PM

What are the odds this is a real one? Were they available in '67? The ad doesn't SAY it's original, but its got that all important "rare" word in there.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1872351499

Chevy454

11-13-2002, 04:43 PM

That car has been on there before. Going from memory, I think "Chevrolet by the Numbers" says something like 12 engines built but no record of installation.

Hey Rick, help me out here!

SS427

11-13-2002, 05:07 PM

A recent discussion regarding this issue.
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=19807&Forum=UB B1&Words=Biscayne&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage =0&Limit=25&Old=1year&Main=19760&Search=true#Post1 9807
I still have never come across a documented '67 425 hp which is a shame as it would make for a VERY neat car. I refuse to believe some dealers didn't install these as well and go racing.

P.S. can someone inform me how to post a link but shorten the address and make it look like "previous discussion" innstead of that long link. /ubbthreads/images/icons/blush.gif

Chevy454

11-13-2002, 05:14 PM

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Use this: Previous Discussion (http://yourURLhere.com)
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JoeC

11-13-2002, 05:18 PM

[**url=link**] title [**/url**] = Makes the given title into a hyperlink pointing to link.

67 425hp (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=19807&Forum=UB B1&Words=Biscayne&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage =0&Limit=25&Old=1year&Main=19760&Search=true#Post1 9807) new link

don't put in the stars that I needed to make it show

SS427

11-13-2002, 06:43 PM

You mean like this? /ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif
previous discussion (http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB1&Number=19807&Forum=UB B1&Words=Biscayne&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage =0&Limit=25&Old=1year&Main=19760&Search=true#Post1 9807)
Thank you gentleman

JoeC

11-13-2002, 08:13 PM

From what I read, Chevy got nervous about handing out the HP in 1967. One late 1966 magazine article said that the 375 HP 396 was not available in the 67 Chevelle and the BB was not available in the 67 Camaro. Chevy changed their mind and made the 375 HP Camaro and Chevelle but info was not on some of the 1967 dealer listings. There may have been some 425 Passenger cars that escaped from the factory but it would be a small number.

Seattle Sam

11-13-2002, 08:58 PM

This particular one looks to have a ten bolt rear, according to the picture on eBay (see attachment).
I don't know much about big cars, but that's not very likely is it?
-Sam
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68l30

11-13-2002, 09:20 PM

Anyone remember the red/red 66 four door Biscayne that ran in the Supercar Showdown years ago?I think it was claimed to be a orig 427 4 speed.It was out of Lancaster Ohio.I used to have it on video.....real deal?

Steve

T Billigen

11-13-2002, 11:16 PM

Red 4 door biscayne was the real deal. I saw an article on this car in the 80s it had full docs including p.o.p. Also seen it run at Quaker City drag strip in Salem,Ohio. The rumor was 5 67 Impalas were sold with the hipo engine but I have never seen one nor have any been documented. If it were real it would have a 12 bolt rearend and big sway bar on the front.

Mr70

11-13-2002, 11:38 PM

I know you are talking about 1967,but I once owned a 1966 Impala with a factory 427/425.Only 1856 made.We found paper on it and brought it home.That car beat an LS-6 balls out!
But the next year they only offered the L36 427/385Hp in this carline.

Stefano

11-13-2002, 11:50 PM

There was also a 1966 427/425 Biscayne in the Roselle area for a while. It was black with a blue interior and 4 speed.
It was also the real deal.

SS427

11-14-2002, 12:46 AM

425/425's were offered from 1966-1969 in all of the big car line but the '67 is the only year that is very questionable.

And Rick, thanks for pointing out that these big cars had potential. I am very pleased with the power of my cars but am seldom invited anywhere. /ubbthreads/images/icons/blush.gif

micky69396

11-14-2002, 01:13 AM

The big cars are definately underrated. If I get my car to hook up it runs pretty well. At the local track it has gone 13.65 @ 102 is my best pass ever in it. Its just tuff with a stick car. The red 66 is a pretty neat car, I havent see it in a long time. I also remember a 66 427 wagon with a 4 gear out there too, along with a 409 64 wagon. Micky

ORIGLS6

11-14-2002, 01:26 AM

Rick,

I agree about the potential of the big cars with the 425's. They were huge in size but didn't weigh all that much more than the Chevelle. Plus the 427's wrapped quicker than the long stroke '54's. There's a Red '65 427 here in town and a Marina Blue '66 425 HP a few miles East of here and they're still with their original owners. The '66 was a regular at the local strip through the early '70's and made believers out of a lot of us.

Rick N.
Maybe you don't get the invitations for fear of being humiliated by those heavy breathing behemoths! They're welcome down here ANYTIME.

68l30

11-14-2002, 01:26 AM

Here's one for ya! Vintage shot in action.......

Steve

Chevy454

11-14-2002, 02:14 AM

I know we've covered this before, but the topic (http://www.v8buick.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8885&pagenumber=1) of the "generous" exhaust manifolds of the '65 and '66 BIG cars came up recently on the Pure Stock board, and it got me to checking. What I found (and Rick had probably already told me this!) was that the '65 L-78 big cars shared exhaust manifolds with the '65 Corvettes, whereas the '66 L-72 big cars shared exhaust manifolds with the '66-69 Corvettes!

Here (http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_a7ea744b089c6549ece428937010a0a8/i-3_B_L.JPG) is a picture of a set of '66 L-72 big car &'66-'69 Corvette manifolds. And, here (http://www.v8buick.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=56009) is a picture of what the standard fare 385hp manifolds off a '68 big car. What a DIFFERENCE!

As for the L-72, I gotta tell ya, it may be sour grapes since I sold my LS-6 to pick up a Yenko Chevelle, but I like the 427 better for racing. To me, it seems like the perfect blend: the bore of the 454, with the stroke of the 396.

toner

11-14-2002, 02:18 AM

Our parts man at work used to work at Economy chevrolet in Rock Island Il. A couple of the guys he ran with bought 1966 427 powered big cars. Rosco Davidson had a fully loaded silver Impala with a 4 speed that he ran at Cordova drag strip. "Fat Jack" Reynolds had an aztek bronze Biscayne, rubber floor mat, radio delete, 4 speed with 4.88 gears. Madsen says he took it home and pulled the motor and had it balanced and blue printed. While he was waiting on that installed fiberglass fenders, hood, deck lid and bumpers. Says he never ran it at the strip just on the 1ways in Rock Island. Madsen has a Rock Island Argus paper with an article on the street racing in Rock Island

toner

Chevy454

11-14-2002, 02:23 AM

Along the same line of thought...what exhaust manifolds did the '68 & '69 L-72 big cars get? The same as the Corvettes, or the same crappy ones as the 385hp?

JoeC

11-14-2002, 02:46 AM

Rob here are some nice cast iron manifolds for you -
1963 427 Mystery Motor

ORIGLS6

11-14-2002, 02:47 AM

Rob,

My vote too. I love the LS-6 but inch for inch the 427 will probably remain the all time king.

micky69396

11-14-2002, 03:51 AM

Hey 68l30, thats my car, where did you get the photo?

micky69396

11-14-2002, 03:54 AM

The 68's are the junk manifolds, not the vette style.

69rsss350

11-14-2002, 03:57 AM

Elvis was the "king" but the LS6 was the "Bully of the Boulevard". /ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif

L78Impala

11-14-2002, 04:43 AM

Here is a hot look'n 67 Biscayne. Not an L72, but still a nice car. I too have been looking for the allusive 67 L72 big car...but none to be found.

I think Casey would like this one.

http://www.impalass427.com/72res/67BelAir.jpg

Casey Marks

11-14-2002, 11:49 AM

All this 427 Biscayne talk ......

I LIKE IT !!!

SS427

11-14-2002, 12:04 PM

Me too, Me too! /ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif /ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif

TimG

11-14-2002, 01:30 PM

A collector in Austin by has a 66 L72 with transistor ignition and four speed. It looks like a Corvette motor got lost on the assembly line and ended up in this car.
It most certainly the original engine.

68l30

11-14-2002, 04:22 PM

Micky,I know it's yours.Thats why I posted. /ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif I love that car...I think I have some others someplace.They were shot at Thompson by a certain somebody.....

Steve

JoeC

11-14-2002, 04:27 PM

Cool car Mickey! Is that what it looks like today with the lettering still on it or is that an old pic. It has the "COPO" look with 425hp and not even any SS emblems. I like them to.

micky69396

11-14-2002, 06:05 PM

Steve thanks, I think I know who your talking about. All I have found from him were B&W shots, thats the first color lettered up photo I have seen. Joe, its been restored a long time ago, needs a little work now but really, its not up to par with the stuff I am doing now. I dont intend to do it that way either, I want to drive it some and have fun with it. It still has "battle scars" that I will never fix. The rear floor area is beat up bad along with the headliner having a couple holes from a blown driveshaft. The rear end cover has many dimples from blown gears, and the rear crossmember had too be welded from too many hard launches. I have every piece of paperwork except a build sheet for it. I will try to find a current photo, but it looks like the old car yet just with no lettering, even the rally wheels are on it yet.

Mr70

11-14-2002, 07:15 PM

What a Nice Chevrolet you've got there Micky.Love the pix! /ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

Casey Marks

11-14-2002, 07:15 PM

Mickey - - that is one neat piece !!!

I made that picture the wallpaper on my laptop. Very cool.

COPO PETE

11-14-2002, 09:19 PM

If any of you guys have old Chevy High Performance mags, check out Dec 1993. That car is on the cover. Micky was involved in a musclecar shootout with that car. He drives it like he hates it!!!!! But we know he really loves it.
Peter /ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

Chevy454

11-14-2002, 10:19 PM

How about some ETs?

copo9566aa

11-14-2002, 10:26 PM

Pete
I have Chevy HP DEC93(sorry my cover is scrap /ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif ).
Biscayne VS Chevelle. /ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif

67BelAir427

11-14-2002, 10:50 PM

Thank you, L78Impala, for the kind words about my 67 Bel Air.I have been silently enjoying this site for quite a while. Excellent information and always something new to learn. When I saw you post the picture of my car I figured it was time to join the party. I watched the number of page views on the Casey Marks Biscayne story go past 2700 and wondered if this was turning into the Super SIZE Car registry!

Best regards,
Marc

copo9566aa

11-14-2002, 11:09 PM

68 Biscayne ET
'68 Biscayne-14.902 @ 99.27
Mike and son Micky Hale split the
driving duties. Mike, who hadn't been
to a dragstrip in 20 years, started off
with a 15.575 @ 96.95. Tire spinning
was the big problem, but the Hales
also changed plugs and adjusted the
valves. As the temperature went up,
so did the times. The best Mickey
could muster in the 98 heat was
16.608 @ 94.98. After Mike clicked off
a 15.269 @ 98.68 the next morning,
Mickey recorded runs of 15.053 @
99.27 and 14.902 @ 99.44.

copo9566aa

11-14-2002, 11:37 PM

Another cool 427/425 Biscayne.From MuscleCars Fall 84.
(it is reportedly just 46 427/425 Biscayne built at the
Doraville,Georgia assembly plant.)
Black/4-speed muncie/Hurst Shifter/3.73Posi.PDB and HD suspension.

ORIGLS6

11-15-2002, 12:58 AM

Marc,
Fantastic! That's one of the best things about this site. It drags all these cars from the past out of the closet where we can all enjoy them again. Glad you're here. Now, tell us some stories!!!

copo69

11-15-2002, 02:17 AM

Posted this pic in the for sale section (car isn't) so I thought I'd throw a picture of my '69 Biscayne from the early 70's in this thread.

micky69396

11-15-2002, 02:33 AM

Those were the first passes I ever made down a dragstrip and it showed. After that event we pulled down the engine and kinda rebuilt it more to racing "stock" specs. It went a 13.65 back at Thompson about 4 years ago. I broke the trans on the next pass. The car hasnt been out since, I put south side bars and headers back in, drove it around a while and it started making noise, tore the engie back down and found a bad rod bearing and its still on the stand. In the meantime decided I wasnt really wanting to race it anymore but just have fun crusing. We built a real racecar that we run in a Blown Alky group. Has run a best of 7.65 @ 181.

67BelAir427

11-15-2002, 02:48 AM

I waited four years for the owner/restorer of this car to part with it and have owned it for a year and a half. These cars are interesting in that they separate the true enthusiasts from those that like anything with shiny paint. One of my neighbors wanted to know if it was my grandfather's car /ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gifOthers have called it the" big white taxicab".The only thing that betrays the sleeper image are those 427 fender badges. Walk softly and carry a big stick. /ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif And never lift the hood before you race. /ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.impalass427.com/72res/67_Bel427.jpg

L78Impala

11-15-2002, 04:30 AM

Beeeautiful!!!
Marc welcome to the site. These guys like to talk about small cars...but that doesn't make them all bad. Every once in awhile they will indulge into the BIG cars...but they got to be big blocks.
Actually this is a big car site, we are just lett'n the small car guys borrow it. /ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif

Billy