View Full Version : Title search back to '67, how is it done???
budnate
02-23-2003, 07:02 PM
Howdy, I need a little help, I purchased a 67 RS/SS 350 car from southern Cal two years ago and would like to do a title search of all owners from new and maybe still be able to contact them, Not sure if the Car-fax thing will work all the way back to í67. any help would be appreciated.
Thnx Bud
hvychev
02-23-2003, 09:19 PM
Bud a car fax only goes back to 1981. Even if it went back farther it does not give previous owner info anyway. I have done several successful title searches but they could get tricky. Most states only keep records for a short time. Sometimes 5-7-10 years. A lot of states have a privacy law and will not even give a person the info. I would call the DMV and ask first before you write a letter to request a records search. Good luck
69rsz28
02-23-2003, 10:05 PM
I have the original invoice were my father bought a 55 Belair at a local dealer here in town. I would like to find out what happened to the car and if it is still alive today. I have the vin.#'s, is there a way to find out the current owner? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
budnate
02-23-2003, 10:48 PM
Can you e-mail with any tips, I am in up in Washington, and the car was in San-Diego Ca,and from some of the paperwork looks like it was in Arizona shorty, I think this is where owner #2 bought it and took it back to San-Diego, I bought it from a middle man that was a friend of owner #2 he had bothered him for years to sell it to him, must have finally caught him just right, but the middle man was probably not supposed to sell it, and pi$$ed off #2 guy, thus not able to retrieve the a/c comp and related parts that was off the car when i bought it. The short of it is I think he was in the Navy and out to Sea most of the time, He sighned the milage statement at 48K orig, to be Honest it is tough to tell if it is correct or 148K, He drove the car but didnt abuse it, it has the normal Desert dirt everywhere, and it sat in a carport and was drilled by the sun in through the drivers window and cooked some of the Interior, I would like to figure out the history of the car before I break it down for a quick detail job.
Thnx in advance for the help, Bud. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
budnate
02-24-2003, 01:23 AM
Wow 114 hits and no info, I know it says stranger next to my user name ,Being new I guess??, but believe me i have 110 Octane running through my vains.
Belair62
02-24-2003, 01:27 AM
Check with your secretary of state...but the best thing is if you have names of owner #2 try to talk to him or start doing white page searches on the internet...it worked for me a couple times but I may have just gotten lucky...
budnate
02-24-2003, 01:30 AM
Thnx, Bud.
T Billigen
02-24-2003, 01:52 AM
I have tried to research titles on a couple of my cars, I have always run into dead ends except if you have a tennessee car. Iowa is another state where you can get most info, but they have to get authorization from previous owners before they will share info.
BBIGG BLOCK 396
02-24-2003, 02:56 AM
Had a title search done on my 67 Chevelle SS but they only can go back to 1984 here in Texas.All it showed was the guy I purchased it from being he owned it from 1982.I even offered extra CA$$ if there was anyway someone could dig through any archives!! NO LUCK HERE IN TEXAS
Bobby /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
jaze70ss
02-24-2003, 03:25 AM
If you know a state patrolman or wish to call your state patrol HQ they have a specialist to address car related stuff. they have access to top secret NICB database. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif good luck.!!!!
jaze70ss
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BBIGG BLOCK 396
02-24-2003, 03:52 AM
I have asked 4 police officers,and my personal insurance agent,and 2 other insurance agents about the NICB.None of them have any knowledge of them or at least would not tell me anything.I know the NICB exists because I have been to there web site,I guess it just takes the right person to find out about them.One of the people I asked is an Auto Theft Detective.He said he had never heard of them,I told him to check out there website that he might could use them for information.He has never gotten back to me to let me know what he has found out.
Bobby
RonNova396L34
02-24-2003, 03:30 PM
Bobby,
I think somebody is pulling your leg! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif
People abandon cars all the time around here and never transfer the title. It gets to be a real circus trying to find out who will fess up to owning the car last. I know in MN there is such a thing as a manual look-up for all owners of a vehicle and it has to come from a teletype from the law enforcement agency. I think I've only used it once so far in my career! I believe I also have the phone number for somebody at NICB in case I have questions about something. I just dug through some old paperwork in my desk and saw it. Now I hope I didn't throw it out with the other junk.
Check to see if your State has a web site for DMV(department of motor vehicles) Maybe you can email somebody there to see if it can be done. Otherwise check at your local license bureau to see if they can help you.
Here's a link for all you MN people here: www.dps.state.mn.us (http://www.dps.state.mn.us)
Maybe substitute your state into the address to see if your state has one.
Ron /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
budnate
02-24-2003, 03:34 PM
I am going to try the white page angle online if I can figure out how to access the sight for San-Diego, I know a State Patrol up here, I will approach him, But I was told they track what the officers of the law do in the systems these days and they probably dont want to lose there job over a favor, That cant be exsplained easily to there boss, I dont think chasing information across county can be exsplained easily, I will get back if I find a angle that is helpful. I am waiting for belair to get back with me on how to hit the white pages,
Thnx for the info guys, Bud. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif I love this gears Guy!
Belair62
02-24-2003, 03:57 PM
I use AOL and they have a white pages that you can look up any name and address....Yahoo has it too that I know of...try google too.
Kim_Howie
02-24-2003, 04:24 PM
What does NICB stand for? I have been a insurance agent for 30 years and never heard of it. Kim /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
02-24-2003, 04:25 PM
Ron is right, I just got back a title search from Maryland, they actually give you too much info! They also relayed to me that there were two more titled owners on this particular car, but since I only paid for one - they only sent one. I just go to the individual state's DMV page, look for title info section, and download the proper form through Adobe Acrobat. I have found that mailing a personal check vs. a US postal money order provides better results.
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
02-24-2003, 04:27 PM
Kim;
I think it means National Insurance Crime Bureau. It's a private organization that is not connected to the government, the big three automakers or the insurance industry. I believe they provide info to the insurance provider when a car gets stolen.
Seattle Sam
02-24-2003, 05:16 PM
Kim,
National Insurance Crime Bureau
http://www.nicb.org/
-Sam
RonNova396L34
02-24-2003, 05:51 PM
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Ron is right,
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Hey, twice in less that a week that somebody said that! LOL
The last time was after another officer thought that he knew the traffic laws better than I. (yeah right) The Sgt. said "No, I think Ron's right" and I even showed them the statute to prove my point.
Now if I could get the judge to say those 3 words more often. LOL And yes you're right Marlin
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budnate
02-24-2003, 06:18 PM
Anybody from the Scottsdale Az, area or should I start a new thread with that as Subject?? will try this first, if you live down there and can photo copy the white pages and the surrounding areas I would be way grateful. I have a name of a fella from the area it may have been the orig owner of the car not sure, His name and add did not work when i called info, but she said there was that Last name in the area but was unlisted, pm me for the name. Oh called info after being online for two hours and hit the the guy in San-Diego on the first try, talked two his wife, and she confirmed they did own the car, but have not talked at him yet, will post up when i know more.
Denis
02-24-2003, 06:30 PM
Marlin, how far back did Maryland go in your title search? Also, has anyone had any luck with Pennsylvania?
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
02-24-2003, 06:39 PM
Denis;
I have seen MD searches go back to '69 and '70, my particular search went back to '76 - not sure what years the other two owners fall into.
PA will go back 10 years, unless you catch someone on a good day and they go into the microfiche for you. If so, I have several searches going back to '67-'70. The PA titles have 'brands' as well, very useful when the brand says that the car was sold 'out of state' or 'out of country', 'wrecked' 'flood' or 'stolen'. The best part is that the cost is only $5!
Within the last 2 years, I was able to trace my Yenko Camaro back to '69 through NY, NC and VA doing exactly what Marlin described in his earlier post. Found out my car came from Colonial Chev. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
hvychev
02-24-2003, 07:02 PM
Ron, My Chevelle was sold brand new at Orville Nerhus Chevrolet in Lakefield MN per the buildsheet. I have been successful in tracking my car to 1976 thru Illinois, Nebraska, South Dakota, and Minnesota. I only got the MN title thru the South Datota search. Do you know of a way to get a Minnesota search done? I think when I called that the person told me that they only go back like 10 years. My car was in MN from new till 1989. Any help would be appreciated. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Belair62
02-24-2003, 07:09 PM
Budnate....I hope you aren't serious about having someone in Scottsdale photocopy white pages for you !!! I meant an internet white page search.
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
02-24-2003, 07:35 PM
Hey Charlie;
You left out the best part, how it ended up in New York painted rallye green with Z28 stripes! Then, after changing hands a couple of times, the sellers couldn't seem to figure out why the '302' emblems wouldn't fit into the holes in the hood, but those ratty old '427' emblems do - hmmmm... What a Homer Simpson!
When will it be done?
budnate
02-24-2003, 07:48 PM
Actually I was, I assume by your response this a big no,no?.
It seemed like a ok idea at the time?. I spose i can get the info from the local library?.
I tied to search online, I have attbi. for a connection up here and tried a internet search, like "white pages Scottsdale Az" and it did'nt work so well, one Co. wanted 10 bucks for info I think I allready have, I called the phone Co. and they said the name did not match the add i have, and the guys name did not come up in the area, but there was another person with the same last name in the area but was unlisted.
I need to relax until i talk with the fella in Cal, his wife was very nice, might be some hope of recovering my a/c and alt parts.
RonNova396L34
02-24-2003, 08:07 PM
hvychev(Frank)
Go to my link: www.dps.state.mn.us (http://www.dps.state.mn.us)
Then find the Driver & Vehicle Services link on the left column.(click on that)
Then find the Vehicle Information link on the left column(click on that)
Then find the Record Information link on the left column(click on that)
Finally, find "Record Request and Explanation of Intended Use" that is highlighted blue and you can click on that link. You can then print out the form.
I just stopped at the local license bureau and this is the same form they gave me. I'm gonna try to trace my 1963 Nova Convertible back through the owners and I believe the car never left Minnesota. I'll see what I can find out and let others know. It sounds like it only costs $4.50 so it would be money well spent.
It also looks like it may be possible to trace a MN record if you know the person's FULL name and Date of birth. Perhaps those of you who own a car once registered in MN could use the form to find out information on your car. I don't know for sure so maybe email a question to somebody at the web site I listed. Hope this helps you all.
Contact me by PM if you have questions, otherwise, this is getting long.
Ron /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif
RonNova396L34
02-24-2003, 08:23 PM
Here's some other links to other State's I've tried. Just insert your State:
www.dps.state.ia.us (http://www.dps.state.ia.us)
www.dps.state.ok.us (http://www.dps.state.ok.us)
www.dps.state.ny.us (http://www.dps.state.ny.us)
www.dps.state.az.us (http://www.dps.state.az.us)
www.dps.state.mo.us (http://www.dps.state.mo.us)
Ron /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
Kurt S
02-24-2003, 09:15 PM
http://www.usedcarbuyingtips.com/dmv/forms.html
Links to all the states' DMV's,
Belair62
02-24-2003, 09:29 PM
PM me the state,name, and any other info you have if you want and I will try a couple white page searches...doesn't hurt to try... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
02-24-2003, 09:32 PM
The Yenko good humour truck?
I'll take a Yenko fudgie bar please, $120k - sure, I'll be right back! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif
Belair62
02-24-2003, 09:40 PM
There was a place selling a Good Humor truck here local Marlin ! It ran and worked....I really wanted the damn thing but couldn't figure out what to do with it....but now I have an idea....bring it to the reunion and sell Strawberry Shortcake BigBlock Yenko bars and even Smallblock bars to all the folks there !! Think I could get clearance to make ice cream bars in the form of a Yenko emblem ???
budnate
02-24-2003, 10:52 PM
Howdy, sent ya pm.
Thnx Bud.
BBIGG BLOCK 396
02-25-2003, 03:08 AM
Ron
I did have the DMV run a title search,but they tell me,and I also talked to a supervisor there,that they only have the capabilities to go back to 1984.In which is in fact what they did for my $15.00.I will pursue a couple more angles on the NICB area and see what I can come up with.Thanks a lot for the information,I am very PIG headed so my Misses says, so as we say here in Texas,I Ain't giving up yet!And by the way Ron be SAFE out there Protecting us citizens from the elements!
Thanks
Bobby /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
RonNova396L34
02-25-2003, 03:21 AM
Bobby,
A man of my own heart. Never, ever, ever give up. I'll leave you a PM.
Ron /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif
In some cases, NICB and MVD have old records but don't want to spend the time to seach through them.
budnate
02-25-2003, 11:23 PM
Howdy Guys, Update if anyone cares:
Talked with the fella from San-Diego today and he confirmed the options and miles as the real deal, that is good. Turns out he bought it from a fella in Phoenix Az about í92 and he said the guy had some very low mile Hemi cars and some other Mopars and a Cobra car, is there anyone from that area or Scottsdale that may recognize this fella??. I have a name, let me know. The fella from San-Diego is going to look around for a phone number but it sounded like a long shot to turn up anything, PLEASE pm me if you are in the area and might be able help out with locating this fella.
Thnx Bud
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
02-26-2003, 12:57 PM
Sounds like Patrick McGruder!
budnate
02-26-2003, 03:36 PM
Marlin, sent ya pm.
Thnx Bud.
Winmon
03-01-2003, 05:17 PM
Budnate, did you have any luck w/ the Calif. DMV or has anyone else here had luck w/ them? I too bought a car that came from Calif. and would like to find out the past history. I will call them (Calif. DMV) but was just curious what others have gotten from them. Thanks!
budnate
03-01-2003, 08:59 PM
I never called Cal DMV, called the phone co "Info" and hit the guy in Cal on the first try,What LUCK!, talked at him about the car in length, that was pretty cool. I did some Columbo work on my own and traced a guy that appraised the car in 90, short of it is, I am in a stall pattern over Scottsdale Az right now, turns out the collectore that had it in 90 died a couple of years ago, but his son is still around, I left my number with another fella down there that see's the son from time to time, hopefully that pans out, did here a interesting thing from the app guy, if he recalls right a Ins guy owned it before the collector did but had to sell over a divorce, and he was pretty sure it was not the Orig owner. Kinda funny, I was led to believe there was only a few owners before me,Ya just never know until you dig into it.
Bud.
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