View Full Version : Thoughts on new Muscle Cars?
NCGuy68
03-05-2003, 11:17 PM
Do the current 'Tuner Cars' qualify as Supercars?
The GMMG ZL1, Berger, Tom Henry and Earnhardt cars make great horespower with a full factory warrenty.
Your knowledgable replys are appreciated.
Enjoy your cars.
hvychev
03-06-2003, 12:34 AM
They are supercars. They are done in the tradition of the great ones. Baldwin Chevrolet used motion as their tuner and delivered a new car as a supercar. Same thing. That is what GMMG has done for dealers like Berger, Tom Henry, & Ernhardt. As long as they were sold new like that they are supercars IMHO. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
NCGuy68
03-06-2003, 07:37 PM
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They are supercars. They are done in the tradition of the great ones. Baldwin Chevrolet used motion as their tuner and delivered a new car as a supercar. Same thing. That is what GMMG has done for dealers like Berger, Tom Henry, & Ernhardt. As long as they were sold new like that they are supercars IMHO. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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Thanks for your reply Frank. Thoses are my thoughts as well.
Anyone else care to chime in on this one?
82z96ss
03-06-2003, 09:36 PM
Not on subject but is your 82 carb or cross fire. I also have one that is carb got about 94000 miles on it. It will soon get #46 GMMG Phase 2 ls6 motor.
I also feel the tuner cars are Supercars. There has been topics like this before, I have heard some mention that the Ls6 427 is not a true big block. Still they are all Supercars. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
MarkJack66
03-07-2003, 03:39 AM
Low thirteens, possible mid to high twelves with some relative reasonable tuning and mods? IMHO, definitely supercars. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif
mc25t190
03-07-2003, 10:34 AM
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gifdrive a gmmg equipped new ZL1 and you tell me ifit is a supercar, not to be sarcastic. i have ndever driven a car this fast, it is a phase 3, and will kill a viper, i've driven both. helen gibb gave her stamp of approval and you could take delivery at gibb chevy in laharpe, and it was built under the COPO ordering system. 600HP! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
NCGuy68
03-07-2003, 11:00 AM
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Not on subject but is your 82 carb or cross fire. I also have one that is carb got about 94000 miles on it. It will soon get #46 GMMG Phase 2 ls6 motor.
I also feel the tuner cars are Supercars. There has been topics like this before, I have heard some mention that the Ls6 427 is not a true big block. Still they are all Supercars. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
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My 82 has a carb.
IŽve ordered a HOT ROD edition, phase II with Line Lock,
i do feel its a supercar, and in my personal opinion they will be acknowledged as that also in 30 years.
A ZL 1, even hotter, sounds as awesome machines.
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Charley Lillard
03-07-2003, 02:05 PM
Markjack66...Porterfields # 1 2002 ZLL1 ran a 12.58@117 with 3.42 gears and two People in it. The engines have been bumped even more since then.
NCGuy68
03-07-2003, 02:59 PM
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Markjack66...Porterfields # 1 2002 ZLL1 ran a 12.58@117 with 3.42 gears and two People in it. The engines have been bumped even more since then.
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I was under the impression that all the ZL1 cars have 4.10 gears. Correct me if I'am wrong please.
82z96ss
03-07-2003, 03:05 PM
You can get any gear set you want. All the way to 4.56's
CWilliams
03-07-2003, 03:20 PM
NCGuy- I've seen you on LS1.com for a while, about time you found this site!! Totally agree the new cars are current muscle. Handling, braking, all the creature comforts and mid 12's....gotta be American muscle! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
NCGuy68
03-07-2003, 07:04 PM
I posted on this site right after I got my Earnhardt car in June, 01. At that time, there didn't seem to be much interest/awareness of the modern 'tuner' cars. I see that has changed dramatially now.
I'll always be a big fan of the 1st Gen cars. However, as you've said, mid 12s' with braking, handling and creature comforts is PURE American Muscle from the modern cars.
Refresh my memory please. What GMMG upgrades make the Phase II 435 HP package?
Enjoy your cars.
sYcYenko
03-09-2003, 01:37 PM
This is DEFINATELY a SUPERCAR! It is absolutley KILLING me to have this beast sitting in my shop and not being able to drive it. Lets just put it this way. The 94 LT4 is cowarding in the corner of the shop, and the 2 Yenkos have definatetly taken notice of this car! I just cant wait to get the two ZL-1's together for a photo shoot. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
sYcYenko
03-09-2003, 02:34 PM
Here is a couple of nice pics. Cant wait til spring! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
sYcYenko
03-09-2003, 02:36 PM
Do not adjust your pc for some reason the pics did not take. I will have to get that looked at!
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