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hvychev
03-08-2003, 04:12 AM
These photos were taken by my father Frank in 1969 when he was 19 years old. The first one is of a 69 Camaro Z28. His buddy went to see his girlfriend that lived in Brookfield IL and this car was parked out front. Notice the rear stripes that someone went through the trouble to paint all the way down before they even changed the wheels & tires. Strange huh? Several members saw these pics in person at Vette Fest in November.
http://216.136.200.194/auction/Mar/2003376030783481288018.jpg
hvychev
03-08-2003, 04:21 AM
This one caused a lot of controversy. It is a 67 Camaro raced by Statmary & Seltzer and if you look closely at the front fender it has lettering that says ZL-1. The pic was taken in July 1969 at Great Lakes Drag Strip in Union Grove WI. How early did GM offer ZL1 crate motors? I don't want to hear any skeptics say that ZL-1 might mean somthing else. Why else would a race car in 1969 have ZL-1 painted on it's front fender? Does anybody remember this car?
BTW do any of the day 2 experts know what kind of wheels the front ones are?
http://216.136.200.194/auction/Mar/2003378682424627800214.jpg
I have a really cool pic of a 68 RS SS that my mother has in her scrapbook that has snow tires on the back that I will post this weekend.
whitetop
03-08-2003, 04:40 AM
Frank
Really neat pics. The front wheels are American Racing 12 spoke "Crows Feet" Mostly used on lighter weight gassers, front engine rails etc. Hardly ever see them on full body cars because they were not that strong. They are only 3" wide and were spindle mounted, not by lugs.
Glad to see you got those pix posted Frank.
I know we talked about these at VF,but does the ZL-1 designation on the 67 Camaro mean that was what its engine was,or was it just for scare factor??
Post your other picture too please. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Stefano
03-08-2003, 01:31 PM
Nickey Chevrolet of Chicago was selling crate ZL1s but I have no Idea how early in the year.
It is very likely that they would have had some of the first crate engines available as they were the highest volume GM Dealership performance parts outlet in the Counrty.
great pictures thanks for posting!
Bill Grumpy Jenkins had a ZL1 in late 68. He was getting back door help from Chevy Engineering and had best of Chevy parts. The ZL1 was in his 69 L78 Super Stock Camaro and failed tech at the first race he brought it to. They failed him because he could not prove 50 were built and sold to the public. Chevrolet had not yet supplied the info to NHRA. I was told this by Da Grump in person.
Salvatore
03-09-2003, 11:47 AM
That is true JoeC. Jenkins actually used a 1967 aluminum block. He said that this block was probably the best one he really had. If Joe Satmary had any relations with Chevy, he could have been given a couple of blocks ot try. These motors had a lot of ring and cylinder failure. Sam
ChrisS
03-09-2003, 01:07 PM
Frank,
I'm not sure who/what Salmary & Seltzer was, but Van Senus has had a few auto parts stores in northwest Indiana for many years (still in business) and it seems they sponsored many race cars going back to at least the early '60s. I believe they were one of the major sponsors at U.S. 30 dragstrip as well. I'll ask some of the old-timers around here to see if they might remember the car. I've heard some of these old warhorses are still around, still in race-dress.
hvychev
03-09-2003, 07:45 PM
I had asked a lot of people about this picture and nobody knew anything about Statmary & Seltzer. One of my buddys who was racing in the early 70's at The Grove & US 30 told me that Joe Statmary was pretty popular around that time. He told me that they had a series of the "We Haul" cars that he campained at the local tracks.
Chris I researched Van Senus Auto Parts about a year ago and like you said they are still around and have been in biz since the 40's. I talked to a couple of people at a few of their locations but was not able to get any answers. I don't know if you can see from my scaned pic but it says that Van Senus Auto Parts Hammond IN.
What do you guys think about the pic of the Hugger Orange Camaro Z28? Is it possiable that those stripes were painted like that by the factory?
ORIGLS6
03-10-2003, 05:42 AM
Frank,
Correct about the Joe Satmary "We Haul" cars. He used to run in a Super Stock circuit out of the Chicago area. We booked the guys a few times for shows at the old White Hall strip and they put on a Hell of a show. Hemi Darts and Cudas and a bunch of Kick-ass Camaros including Satmary.
I still have some old fliers promoting that group and will dig them out and send you a copy. Thanks for all the vintage photos. You really have me wondering about the Gasser pix. A friend of mine had a '38 Chevy Coupe that looked exactly like the one you posted. I think your pic might be a '37 though. I need to look up a shot of Don's L-88 powered Hugger Orange '38 named "Rip's Snorter".
Hey Frank, If that stripe scheme on the car was a prototype, I think it look's great, and would have made a great Z option.......Joel /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
DarrenX33
03-10-2003, 01:26 PM
I believe the Jerry MacNeish book states that custom colors and striping were possible. Pretty sure the book shows a baby blue Z with striping down the tail just like your picture. Another thing is for sure. I know from my experience being around them. My brother and all his friends did custom paint jobs. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Hmmm. No centercaps.
Great pix Frank...
Kurt S
03-10-2003, 04:46 PM
No way is that stripe factory. Someone did it afterwards. Same with the baby blue Z, it was done at the dealer.
resto4u
03-11-2003, 01:48 AM
The baby blue z with that paint, was bought that way and owned by a member of this site. As kurt states, not factory. Roger
DarrenX33
03-11-2003, 01:31 PM
I stand corrected.
Frank- I have some pictures of my car from 1972 complete with lace paint that I will be scanning tonight. Also one of my brothers 71 Z/28 from 1974. Will post tomorrow. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
copo9566aa
03-11-2003, 02:58 PM
Another cool /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif pictures of The Camaro 1967 " The Enforcer "
B&W picture taken in 1971,in Montreal. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
Pic1 (http://www.yenko.net/attachments/34902-67CamEnforcer2.jpg)
Looks like a 1969 Chevelle White Vinyl top in the backgound??
SS427
03-11-2003, 03:15 PM
...............and a brand new 70 AAR Cuda. Those were the days. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
Kim_Howie
03-11-2003, 03:44 PM
This picture was taken April of 1970 Notice the two 70 camaros the 69 ZL-1 and the 69 funny car
Kim_Howie
03-11-2003, 03:48 PM
This is a picture of Herb Fox sitting on my car 1970
Kim_Howie
03-11-2003, 03:54 PM
This is a picture of Herb Fox today and Connie Gibb
Stefano
03-11-2003, 03:55 PM
Very Cool Pics, keep'em coming /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
hvychev
03-11-2003, 04:11 PM
Kim Awesome!! This is exactly what I wanted to acomplish with this thread. Kim the pic with Herb on your car is cool. Totaly period complete with a piece sign and all! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Guys keep the vintage pics comming! Lets see some Vintage Yenko Camaro pics. I am still going to post a couple more when I can get them scanned.
copo9566aa
03-11-2003, 04:53 PM
Cool picture /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif
Top left corner Dick Landy LO Dart ???
Kim_Howie
03-11-2003, 05:12 PM
Damn good eyes /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif
copo9566aa
03-11-2003, 05:37 PM
Picture of Herb Fox sitting on your 1970
V is for Victory or Peace.....
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Jeff H
03-11-2003, 06:19 PM
[ QUOTE ]
This is a picture of Herb Fox sitting on my car 1970
[/ QUOTE ]
Great picture. I guess we now know who to blame for all these "split bumper" non RS Camaros that are out there! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Kim_Howie
03-11-2003, 07:04 PM
Back in knowing Herb it was for PEACE also non rs split bumbers weigh less that was the name of the game then. The car also ran NO front brakes same as Porterfields car /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
KLONECO
03-11-2003, 08:17 PM
Anyone know where that camaro is today? Even if not...would make a great diecast car! the 70 molds are in place already!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif oops i am sorry just another silly thought /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif
Kim_Howie
03-11-2003, 08:27 PM
I have owned the car for 8-9 years I hope to have it at the reunion this year. Kim
DarrenX33
03-12-2003, 06:51 PM
Here is my car in 1972. The 2nd owner frequented Oswego Dragway. He even has a victory trophy to prove it. He is supposed to give it to me when he finds it in his room full of stuff along with the POP.
DarrenX33
03-12-2003, 06:52 PM
2nd
DarrenX33
03-12-2003, 06:56 PM
My brothers 71 Z/28 in 1974. Must have been drunk when I scanned it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
cool pictures! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
hvychev
03-12-2003, 07:52 PM
Darren awesome pics!!!! Day 2 to the max! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif How did you get them?
Kim_Howie
03-12-2003, 07:57 PM
Neat pic of your car it's nice to have them. Kim
DarrenX33
03-12-2003, 08:11 PM
These pictures are from the 2nd owner. While I was restoring my car (1989) I did a title search. I looked up numbers for all the owners and called them. I was never able to find the 1st owner. I did talk owner 2 and 3. I have developed a friendship with the 2nd owner over time. After the car was finished I drove it to his house for him to see. I even let him drive it. It was pretty special for him cause that day was his wedding anniversary and him and his wife dated in the car. They really appreciated it. Anyway he was the one who gave me the pictures. He says he has the protect-0-plate somewhere in his house. He will give it to me when he finds it.
I have heard that the original owner was a mechanic at Olaf Gjovik Chevrolet in Sandwich Ill. The car was special ordered for him.
I swear I have slides somewhere of a 70 SS Chevelle from the 1970 Chicago Auto Show (or world of wheels). Have to dig around for those.
SS427
03-12-2003, 08:24 PM
I swear I have slides somewhere of a 70 SS Chevelle from the 1970 Chicago Auto Show (or world of wheels). Have to dig around for those.
Now that would be cool! Start diggin! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif
Rick
DarrenX33
03-12-2003, 09:08 PM
Ok I'm on it.
If I come thru am I eligble for a star?
DarrenX33
03-12-2003, 09:19 PM
Stars.... Ask and you shall receive? Thank you.
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Darren
I will come over to your home and dig for you!
I want to see that picture....
hvychev
03-12-2003, 11:14 PM
Darren look what you started! Once the two Ricks get a hold of you forget it! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
SS427
03-13-2003, 11:50 AM
I was first! (in a whiney type voice) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif
DarrenX33
03-13-2003, 01:17 PM
Done! I have them today. Wish I could post them now cause they are cool. Going to bring them to get developed in to pictures then I will post. Here is a preview.
1970 Chicago Auto Show
SS396 Chevelle
Z/28 Camaro
Plymouth Road Runner
Pontiac Firebird
Olds Rallye 350
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif Sox & Martin Cuda
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif Bill Tanners Challenger
Guess I earned those stars. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
Good to know!
Look forward to seeing them.
SS427
03-13-2003, 01:25 PM
Darren,
Look forward to seeing these and any other Day 2 pictures people have, thanks for sharing. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
Rick
Rat_Pack
03-13-2003, 01:47 PM
SS<font color="red">427</font>, here is a picture of my Dad's Fathom Blue 68 SS396 taken in Oct 68 at the Hillbillies Car Show in Knoxville TN. This was the only car that my parents owned and it was a daily driver. Lots of chrome under the hood and bottom of the car. I have a bunch of pictures of his 66 Chevelle he bought new, plus the few of our 71 Z28 that ran E & F Stock at Bristol, and then there is an oddball that I will post below also..........RatPack...........
DarrenX33
03-13-2003, 01:51 PM
Interesting. While digging last night I found a slide of me shoveling with a 68 SS Camaro in the driveway. Not sure color or engine. Gonna develop that one to. Great pic. Let's keep em coming!
Rat_Pack
03-13-2003, 01:57 PM
Here is another picture with a kid thinking something was funny /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif. Notice also the car has the Z rear deck stripes and it has headrests also. The stripes were added only on the rear at the dealer before delivery in Nov 67...............RatPack..................
DarrenX33
03-13-2003, 01:58 PM
Super cool! Alright... Who's the kid??? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
Rat_Pack
03-13-2003, 02:00 PM
Here is the 71 Z28 that never saw street duty. When he sold the car in 1976 it had 531 miles showing on the odometer. It was recently sold to another drag racer after sitting since 1976 and the car still shows that on the odometer. It ran both E/S and F/S at Bristol and I think it may have had the track record for one season for one of those classes. I cannot remember for sure............RatPack................
Rat_Pack
03-13-2003, 02:04 PM
I'm not telling /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif!!! Here is a picture of my Dad's demo: 1973 Vega wagon. Notice the 68 SS396 Chevelle in the background. He was a manager at that dealer until 1985..............RatPack.....................
DarrenX33
03-13-2003, 02:10 PM
And there is the answer /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif.
Stefano
03-13-2003, 02:30 PM
Cool pics.
Bill Pritchard
03-13-2003, 02:37 PM
I tried for 45 minutes last night to post a picture of me with my brand new Hugger Orange 70 Nova. Gave up in frustration after errors upon errors /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Rat_Pack
03-13-2003, 02:38 PM
Here is the original Rat Pack from 1971 at Bristol. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif This is actually his third Camaro after running a 68 & a 69 Camaro. Then Wally jumped ship with an excellent offer from AMC and drove a Gremlin /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif.
SS427
03-13-2003, 02:45 PM
I can tell I am going to have to go home and start digging out some old photos. These are great. If anyone has good underhood shots, please include them. It is really nice to see how they really came delivered as far as underhood stuff.
Rat Pack, you must have just gotten back from taking a ride after that shot was taken! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
Rick
Nothing says the late 60's or 70's like bell bottoms or white Flared pants.
Those Haggers? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
SS427
03-13-2003, 03:50 PM
I was thinking just the opposite, nothing beats the 70's like shorts with dark socks and dark street shoes. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif
Rick
DarrenX33
03-14-2003, 01:11 PM
Slide development will be done tonight. I will pick them up tonight and bring them along to Vettefest. Unfortunately I cannot post them until Monday because my scanner is at work. Not exactly sure what day I am going to VF but for those who will be there let me know if you want to see and I will stop by. Frank, your a given.
hvychev
03-14-2003, 02:33 PM
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Kim_Howie
03-14-2003, 08:29 PM
One more picture of my camaro. I gave a BIG copy of this to Herbie Fox and told him nobody would see it . So I lied!! Notice Herbie drove off the ramp when unloading. Notice jack under the wheel. I think it's kind of funny. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif
OUCH..
I did the same thing with a friends Car at US30 in 1980.
whitetop
03-14-2003, 11:26 PM
Kim
How about a teaser pic to see what the car looks like today. Does it still have its red plexiglas scoop?
hvychev
03-15-2003, 03:27 AM
This is a really cool pic. My mothers scrap book said that the car belonged to a guy that they met in 1967 from New York. Check out the Snow Tires!
http://216.136.200.194/auction/Mar/20033141178004463092053.jpg
Kim_Howie
03-15-2003, 08:12 AM
Whitetop I tried to put pictures up what the car looks like today but they tell me they are over 10,000 [what ever]. I will try later
Kim_Howie
03-15-2003, 08:15 AM
Hvychev that is a nice picture I love old camaro pictures.
whitetop
03-15-2003, 04:43 PM
Here is a pic of a "Street Freak" Firebird convertible circa 1974. Car had a tunnel rammed 427. Car is in front of Community Motors in St. Clairsville, Ohio which sold auto parts, speed equipment and gas. Checkout the cool pumps.
Graphics was painted in one night and the painter consumed a mass quantity of beer according to the original builder. Car was called the "Wonderbread" car. Several decades and 4 owners later, the dad of the latest owner got tired of the car taking up space and a backtalking son and pulled the car out of the garage, poured gas on it and set it on fire. I have pics of the burnt out hull after it was dragged down in the gulley behind their garage. It is still there.
Kim_Howie
03-16-2003, 02:20 PM
This picture was taken today Kim /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Kim_Howie
03-16-2003, 02:21 PM
Another one
Kim_Howie
03-16-2003, 02:22 PM
One more
It Begins! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
Rat_Pack
03-16-2003, 04:46 PM
I love correctly restored musclecars but those old "Street Freaks" are cool /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif. Thanks whitetop for posting................RatPack............. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
DarrenX33
03-17-2003, 01:38 PM
Ok guys here we go. 1970 Chicago Auto Show.
Chevelle SS396
DarrenX33
03-17-2003, 01:39 PM
GTX
DarrenX33
03-17-2003, 01:39 PM
Z28
DarrenX33
03-17-2003, 01:41 PM
Rallye 350
DarrenX33
03-17-2003, 01:41 PM
Firebird Formula
Very Nice Darren.
Thank You for Sharing those. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
DarrenX33
03-17-2003, 01:43 PM
Sox & Martin Cuda
DarrenX33
03-17-2003, 01:44 PM
Bill Tanners Challenger
SS427
03-17-2003, 01:48 PM
Ditto Darren,
Appreciate you doing that. Great photos! To be able to go back in time.................
Rick
DarrenX33
03-17-2003, 02:04 PM
Oh yeah I forgot this one. Frank insisted I should post. It's obvious. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Winter 1969.
Darren
If I'm not mistaken,the 1970 Chicago AutoShow was to be held at the newly built McCormick Place.
But there was a fire,and they had to go back to the International Ampitheater.
DarrenX33
03-17-2003, 02:09 PM
I was wondering that myself. Judging from the pictures the venue looks rather small. My brother took them I will get more details.
hvychev
03-17-2003, 02:09 PM
That pic of that cute little kid playing in the snow...It can't be...Is that little Darren in 1969?.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
DarrenX33
03-17-2003, 02:10 PM
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copo9566aa
03-19-2003, 02:19 PM
Super cool all of this vintage pictures.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif
Thanks.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
Belair62
03-19-2003, 02:22 PM
It does look like the Amphitheater...
mc25t190
03-21-2003, 08:49 PM
vintage still, 7200 original miles, original sheet metal, 90% original paint! AWESOME!
ORIGLS6
03-21-2003, 09:05 PM
Kevin,
What's the story on the vinyl roof?
DarrenX33
03-21-2003, 09:16 PM
Very nice Kevin. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
Throw on some bell bottoms, platforms, etc. Then jump in the picture. Whala! Vintage pic 1969 /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
03-21-2003, 09:23 PM
Dennis;
The original owner (kenny wheeler aka PeeWee!) of that car ordered it at Yenko SportCars and wanted a vinyl top. When the car came in, no vinyl top! So, Don sent it down the street to a shop (Regency Co. I believe), and they installed the top before it was sold new. I believe it is a '68 style? Not sure on the details, Brian can correct this /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Is the missing 10% original paint under the Vinyl roof? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
68z302
03-21-2003, 10:49 PM
Car was sold in Haney, British Columbia and raced at Mission Raceway by Buck Kinney.
I believe that this is a COPO. At least 3 Camaros were sold there.
One was restored & sold into California a few years back.
68z302
That is a VERY Nice Picture.I really mean it.
Belair62
03-22-2003, 01:20 AM
Looks like 65 Impala wagon in the background !
68z302
03-22-2003, 01:57 AM
I love those Keystone Mags on the Camaro!!
mr70,
I've got another picture of a car you would like to see.
This car was raced by Buck Kinney for over 25 tears and was sold a couple of years ago for about 25K USD.
This car was a 5 time NHRA Div. 6 record holder in it's class. How many people race convertibles?
You can't see it well in this picture but the cowl induction flap is open.
402 big Block power /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif
68z302
03-22-2003, 02:06 AM
I should mention that Buck Kinney is one of few if not the only Canadian in the NHRA hall of fame. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
You're Killing me here! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
What a nice shot.Love the decal collage.
Notice the fuel psi gauge mounted on the hood.
Truppi/Kling was a 1970 LS6 Chevelle Convert.raced around the North East in the NHRA. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
ORIGLS6
03-22-2003, 04:31 AM
Yeah, the vinyl runs to the drip rail. Pretty cool if it's still the same material installed in '69.
COPO PETE
03-22-2003, 10:14 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Car was sold in Haney, British Columbia and raced at Mission Raceway by Buck Kinney.
I believe that this is a COPO.
[/ QUOTE ]
Is the dealership in Haney called Reuben Burge Motors????? any other info on the 3 cars beleived to be sold there???
Peter /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
68z302
03-22-2003, 01:52 PM
Dealership is as noted on the rear quarter panel.
Mussalem motors. Still there as Mussalem Chev Olds.
Back then it was in the middle of nowhere.
Buck Kinney, being a racer & a young mechanic there, talked the owner into bringing in 3 cars. They apparently sold so fast the dealership tried to bring in more but couldn't get them. There's a great story about the one car that was restored. A Camaro guy named Gary Grant came accross a 427 COPO engine & used the VIN to track down the original car.
The car was then totally restored, I'll see if I can dig up the whole story as it was in a local magazine a while ago.
I believe the picture is one of the 3/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
68z302
03-22-2003, 07:22 PM
COPO PETE
The copoconnection website has a car from Mussallem listed.
Must be the restored one. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
just noticed that I misspelled the dealer name. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif
http://www.copo.com/L72-VIN-69-Canadian-Camaro.htm
hvychev
03-22-2003, 10:02 PM
Kim Howie, I really think your camaro is cool. How did you find it? Do you have any "as found" pics? You find some really cool ones. I still love the pic of the late Dennis Hartwegs Deuces Wild COPO Nova.
Kim_Howie
03-24-2003, 02:34 PM
Frank , I bought the car about eight years ago . Bill Porterfield owned it he has all the Gibb records of VINS he found the the six miles away from my father-in-laws in Meredosia,Ill Enclosed is pics when Bill bought it and when bought it. Alot of difference.
Kim_Howie
03-24-2003, 02:35 PM
Two shots of it when bought it
Kim_Howie
03-24-2003, 02:36 PM
Another
Kim, is that the car that was used for the drawing on the cover of the Dick Harrell parts catolog?
Kim_Howie
03-24-2003, 03:46 PM
Joe, I would like to yes, but can't, The drawing is a composite of mine and the GT car the lettering on my car is backwards to all the other Gibb-Harrell cars. Dicks name on the back and Freds name on the door ,mine is backwards. The car your talking about has the lettering the as the GT car but the Gt didn't have a tunnel-ram and hood scoop
Kim_Howie
03-24-2003, 04:10 PM
Joe after reading your post again i realized were talking about two different things. I was talking about the Safety & performance clinic mag . Are you asking about that pic or are you talking about some other catalogue.
resto4u
03-25-2003, 12:33 AM
Kim, very cool pics..... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif Roger
hvychev
03-25-2003, 03:56 AM
Thanks Kim! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Kim, I am talking about the drawing on the Dick Harrell parts catolog. I only have a B&W picture from an add but the car has "Dick Harrell" on the quarter panel and "Fred Gibb" on the door in the crest graphic.
Kim_Howie
03-25-2003, 02:56 PM
I think my first answer would be correct, that's kind of a composite.
Supercar_Kid
03-25-2003, 05:12 PM
Hi guys...looking at all the neat vintage Supercar pics everyone has posted got me diggin' in my Dad's attic over the weekend. Thought I'd share some vintage pics of some of the cars he used to own back in the late 60's early 70's, not necessarily Supercars but cool nonetheless. Sorry for the poor quality, I don't have a scanner so I had to just take digital pics of the old pics themselves. Here's a pic of his '68 Chevelle, note the Motion style 'glassed on hoodscoop, chrome reverse wheels, sure looked tuff. 68 Chevelle (http://www.members.aol.com/erikbarr/68SS396Chevelle.jpg)
Supercar_Kid
03-25-2003, 05:29 PM
Here are a few more...the first is a 69 Nova taken in about 73 or 4, just a 350 base car but he gave it the Motion appearance treatment, side pipes, 'glassed on hoodscoop, even added his own painted on Yenko Deuce style sidstriping as he was a student in Pittsburgh back in 69-70 and often visited the Canonsburg dealership, thought the Deuce's stripe package looked cool. 69 Nova (http://www.members.aol.com/erikbarr/69Nova.jpg)
Here is another of the same car...he liked to do his own paint/bodywork so this car was at one time just about every color you could get a 69 Nova in, here it's LeMans blue with chrome reverse wheels, also note the hand scheened "Nova-Caine" license plate, he liked to have catchy names for his cars back then...that's my Mom in the foreground. NovaCaine (http://www.members.aol.com/erikbarr/Novacaine.jpg)
Another of his '68 327 Vette, taken in about '71...International Blue with light blue gut, 4 speed, had International 15x8" slotted aluminum Mag wheels with original F-70 wide treads on the front, beastly Formula 1 Super Stocks on the back, painted a subtle hood detail stripe as well...and another home made front license plate. 68 Vette (http://www.members.aol.com/erikbarr/68Vette.jpg)
Here's one last one...this was his Hugger Orange/ black vinyl top 66 ElCamino, that he liked to use to haul around his drums and band equipment in, chrome reverse wheels on it as well, with the Vette's hand me down wide treads on the front. I think every car he owned was painted Hugger Orange at one time or another...check out the Vintage '55 Chevy pics section for some of his Hugger Orange '56 Bel Air. Thanks for looking everyone, and again sorry for the poor quality pics.
66 Camino (http://www.members.aol.com/erikbarr/66Camino.jpg)
Supercar_Kid
03-25-2003, 05:57 PM
Forgot perhaps the best one...because it's actually a vintage Camaro pic...taken in front of high school in 1967, my Dad and his crew beside a '67 Camaro, you can see a Corvair in the background and maybe an Impala station wagon? Dig the original skinny redlines and hubcaps.Class of '67 (http://www.members.aol.com/erikbarr/67highschool.jpg)
Kim_Howie
03-25-2003, 07:26 PM
Love the scoop on the chevelle Kim
Don_Lightfoot
03-26-2003, 02:23 AM
Here's a picture I certainly had not seen before until tonight when it was posted over on Team Chevelle. Maybe most of you have seen this before.
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
03-26-2003, 11:32 AM
Ah! The plutonium pic /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Jeff H
03-26-2003, 12:47 PM
That is still has to be the best musclecar picture of all time. To think that lot is packed with 427 Camaros. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
DarrenX33
03-26-2003, 01:29 PM
Used that picture as wallpaper on my PC. A lot of $ there. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
I visited that lot and you can still hear the rumble of all those factory 427s. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
here is a pic from last year. Ground is a lot higher because of filling by the Gov. to seal the radiation.
here is close up of sign and info from Gov web site
In 1978, Congress passed the Uranium Mill Tailings Radiation Control Act (UMTRCA) to clean up 24 abandoned sites nationally that had processed uranium and related ores for the federal government. Under the UMTRCA, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) was directed to set general standards for the cleanup at the processing sites and properties where tailings had been blown by the wind or used in construction. The U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) was authorized to clean up the sites to meet EPA standards with the concurrence of the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC). Remedial actions at UMTRA Project sites must also comply with the EPA ground water protection standards published in the Federal Register in January 1995.
The inactive uranium processing site in Canonsburg, Pa., was designated for remedial action under the provisions of the UMTRCA. It is one of 24 UMTRA Project sites located in nine western states and Pennsylvania. The purpose of remedial action is to minimize or eliminate potential health hazards resulting from exposure of the public to residual radioactive materials (RRM) at the processing sites and at vicinity properties. Cleanup of the Canonsburg site was conducted under the direction of the DOE in cooperation with the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
SITE DESCRIPTION
The 18.6-acre Canonsburg site contained 376,100 cubic yards of RRM, and lies between Chartiers Creek and the ConRail tracks in the Borough of Canonsburg. About 54,000 cubic yards of RRM from the site were moved to a nine-acre site in Burrell Township between October 1956 and January 1957. The Burrell site is about one mile east of Blairsville, Pa., between the Conemaugh River and the ConRail tracks.
HISTORY OF THE SITE
The Canonsburg site was operated as a radium extraction plant by Standard Chemical from 1911 to 1922. Later, Vitro Corporation of America acquired the property and processed ore to extract radium and uranium salts. From 1942 until 1957 Vitro was under contract to the federal government to recover uranium from ore and scrap. For the next nine years, the site
was used only for storage under an Atomic energy Commission contract. In 1967, the property was purchased by the Canon Development Company and was leased to tenant companies for light industrial use.
REMEDIAL ACTION
Remedial action at the Canonsburg site consisted of placing the RRM in a disposal cell designed to meet EPA longevity standards for 200 to 1,000 years of safe storage. The cell occupies six acres and has a clay liner to protect ground water from contamination by RRM. The tailings were placed atop the liner and covered with three feet of clay, soil and a bentonite mixture, which serves to prevent the escape of radon gas from the tailings and the penetration of water into the cell. The radon barrier was then covered with layers of rock and soil and seeded with grass. Remedial action was completed in 1985 at the Canonsburg processing site. The RRM at the Burrell Township site was stabilized in a manner similar to the approach used at the Canonsburg site. Remedial action was completed in July 1987. The NRC licensed the Burrell site in May 1994 and the Canonsburg site in January 1996.
Maybe lost Yenkos can be found using Geiger counter to pick up high background radiation of 69 Camaro parts cars /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
ORIGLS6
03-26-2003, 05:05 PM
KH, Found this in some recent stash.
ORIGLS6
03-26-2003, 05:07 PM
A few more.
ORIGLS6
03-26-2003, 05:08 PM
Hoss at home.
ORIGLS6
03-26-2003, 05:09 PM
And "Really at HOME!"
ORIGLS6
03-26-2003, 05:11 PM
The Fox & Wright car vs. Jerry Bickel at Beardstown. Sly Ole Fox at work.
ORIGLS6
03-26-2003, 05:12 PM
Ray Sullins (I think at Havana, IL)
hvychev
03-26-2003, 05:38 PM
Dennis please post some vintage pics of you and that bad a$$ LS6 back in the day! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
ORIGLS6
03-26-2003, 06:07 PM
Frank,
Not too proud of how either of us looked back then. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif Let's leave well-enough alone!
olredalert
03-26-2003, 06:18 PM
Dennis,
-------I couldnt help but notice the Knock-off wheels on the rear of "Hoss".Was the car raced in that configuration?Pretty cool!Over the years I have had knock-offs on a number of different(non Corvette)cars.The strangest being a 1950 Fleetline Chevy,and even then they looked great.They also look bad on 66/67 Novas.A buddy of mine has an original set on his 327/350 66 Nova today.Ive offered him a set of any aftermarket wheels he wants and cash,but he loves them as I do,and wont be talked out of them.Hoss looks very cool with them on the back.Cant quite see if they are on the front or not...........Bill S
Kim_Howie
03-26-2003, 06:46 PM
Dennis, I love your pics The one of Little Hoss in the lot is priceless. Who are the people in that shot? The one of my car has Herb,Helen and Glen. Also is that Jim Hayter next to Fred in the other Hoss pic? Kim /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif
Kim_Howie
03-26-2003, 06:52 PM
Ray Morrison sent this pic to today. This is his first race car it is him and his younger brother Don and a friend, love it
Supercar_Kid
03-26-2003, 07:31 PM
Many of you who attended last year's Supercar Reunion may recognize this holding lot pic from my brother Joe's outstanding Supercar memorabilia collection. He owns that one as well as several hundred others that were plucked from Don's personal stash. He's got a few of the unconverted COPO Chevelles in the holding lot as well, and even one of a '69 427 Nova on the Yenko/SPAN transporter. Just another reason for you all to come to the York US 30 reunion...he's considering doing a memorabilia showcase there as well, heck maybe it'll even make the newsletter. Keep em comin' guys, love to see all the period pics.
68TopStock
03-26-2003, 08:14 PM
oleredalert,
Havn't been to a reunion recently have you? See the shot of Lil Hoss for the 2001 SYC gathering, look under 2001 reunion on this site, and other pics on related posts. Ray, that 56 looks great. My first car was a 55 hdtp. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
DarrenX33
03-26-2003, 08:36 PM
Aww come one, I put my picture up there! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
DarrenX33
03-26-2003, 08:43 PM
The Z/L1 #1 launch is a new pic to me. I am assuming that is dated 1969 cause the car graphics look pretty tame. Who is driving? Herb?
hvychev
03-26-2003, 08:56 PM
This is the coolest thread ever! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif Come on Dennis post the pics! Hey I posted the Denny Terrio pic of my pops. ( I would have posted pics of my self back then but I was not there.) How much worse than that can it get? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
ORIGLS6
03-26-2003, 09:46 PM
Not sure who was driving in that picture but pretty sure it's not Herb. Looks way too big for him.. It's a very early picture of the car since it's still sporting the first paint scheme.
ORIGLS6
03-26-2003, 09:48 PM
I'll see what I can find. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif I know I have some shots of the car sitting on the starting line at the strip we used to run. It still has the '70 plates on it.
Patience, Grasshopper!
ORIGLS6
03-26-2003, 09:55 PM
Bill,
Ken can fill you in on the history of Lil' Hoss better than I, but yes, it did have the knock-off's on the front also. That was the race configuration back then as well as it's current look. I agree, COOL!
Kim,
If you're referring to the shot of "Hoss" while it's still in Royal Plum colors, the line-up left to right is Herb, Fred and Mr. Chevrolet Himself.
ORIGLS6
03-26-2003, 10:03 PM
Just happen to have one more. Can't give any history myself so feel free to chime in if you recognize something.
juliosz
03-26-2003, 10:50 PM
I received this picture from the original owner of my 68 Z. I always wondered why a car with 21,000 miles needed to be repainted and this answered my question. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif
Dennis
We don't want to see your ugly mug,(Move over Nick Nolte)
but post those Jan.1974 pictures.
Only an original owner would have ones like that!
Your posting Good pix my Friend.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
68l30
03-27-2003, 12:09 AM
Heres one for you 70 velle boys......LS-6 hittin on all eight...
/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
Steve
68l30
03-27-2003, 12:15 AM
This is a 69 RS built/raced by Chuck Wright, Tiretown Rat......He also did some work on the #1 Zl-1 a longtime ago...The other car in the shot is a 68 Hemi Cuda..."Al's Toy".
Steve
68l30
03-27-2003, 12:54 AM
Here is the cover shot Kim and Joe were talking about a while back.......Help any?
Steve
ORIGLS6
03-27-2003, 02:00 AM
Steve,
I have a copy of that same piece. Look back at my picture of Kim's car and you'll see the Gibb and Harrell names are reversed. The cover is an artist's rendering of the actual car. Also notice the difference in the decal placement. I'm a graphic artist by profession and I can tell you through experience "Never believe what you think you see." /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
ORIGLS6
03-27-2003, 02:07 AM
Frank/Rick,
I can't post the shots of my car here. Read the thread title; "Vintage CAMARO Pics." Don't want anyone thinking I'm trying to pass it off as the World's Fattest Camaro. (Yes, I said FATTEST; not Fastest!) /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif
68l30
03-27-2003, 02:27 AM
Great picture....I wanted to post somthing to show the difference....Nice art work though....I love "fat Camaros"...... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
Steve
bkhpah
03-27-2003, 02:45 AM
I'd call it PHATT...BKH /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
Chevy454
03-27-2003, 03:25 AM
ORIGLS6:
I'm thinking your last picture (http://www.yenko.net/attachments/36727-fgcars.JPG) "might" be from their trip out west? If I'm not mistaken, in tow (and visible) is a '68 funny car, I "think" Little Hoss(?), the "Paddy Wagon" (not sure about the history of that!), and it looks like a couple of other cars. Seems like I've heard of a trip out west of 5(?) cars, all red in color, which included a '68 fc, Little Hoss, and a '68 Chevelle in the group. Dad is, ironically, working on the funny car as I type or I would ask him, so some of you Gibb and Harrell guys help me out here...
ORIGLS6
03-27-2003, 03:46 AM
Probably right Rob. That's definitely Hoss and the Paddy Wagon behind the FC. I even recognize the trailer that's hauling Hoss. Just wonder what's on the trailer behind the FC hauler.
Denis
03-27-2003, 04:23 AM
I don't think those palm trees in the background are native to the Midwest.
Chevy454
03-27-2003, 04:48 AM
Umm...good point! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
68TopStock
03-27-2003, 05:03 AM
Must be the 1968 AHRA WinterNationals trip (late Jan '68). I think the '67 Funnycar was the one on the trailer. There were to be 4 cars, the two funnycars, Little Hoss, and a Chevelle stocker. The Chevelle was also red with a black top. It never made it, as it arrived at the dealership too late for the trip. It never did make it to racecar status, as it sat at Dick's shop and eventually was bought by Dave Libby's brother. It was the sister to the Joe S. Harrell Chevelle. I wonder if this may be one of the first shots of Dick's '68 funny? No black top yet. I am not sure if he had both funny's there, as an article I have indicates only one funny and Little Hoss made it to the Winternationals. Dick had to lease one of the funnys to a friend. Maybe it was brought with for the lease arrangement.
ORIGLS6,
Those pics are great, havn't seen them before. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
ORIGLS6
03-27-2003, 05:21 AM
You'll see more of them soon, Ken.
Kim_Howie
03-27-2003, 05:22 AM
It don't get any better than this !!!! Not to bad since I been out in the garage since 8:00 am and it's 12:24 at night and have drank 12 or mor beers /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gifDrunk again Kim
Jeff H
03-27-2003, 12:58 PM
Only 12, you're slacking off. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I'm not actually doing any of the work on my car so I was out at a hockey game last night, eh.
Chevy454
03-27-2003, 06:39 PM
Dad and I looked over the picture again, and noticed some interesting things. That appears to be our '68 funny car on the back of a brand new '68 1-ton truck, we are stumped on the "Paddy Wagon" thing, but we are curious about the CAR that is pulling the trailer hauling "Little Hoss"...any ideas what it might be? Ken?
Ken; Neat picture of the Gibb/Harrell caravan. I have numerous photos of the '68 flip top car, both with and without the black top, but was not for sure which paint scheme was first. With that photo dated Feb, 1968, I would say that the car started out all red, then red with black top and last of course, the tri-color burgundy. Now, if I can just decide which paint scheme to use. I had thought red w/black top, but the car looks pretty sharp all red.
Tommy_Mathison
03-28-2003, 02:00 AM
where are these #1 ZL1 pics? i cant find them and i have been looking forever
Seattle Sam
03-28-2003, 04:17 AM
69SS396,
The ZL1 #1 pic is here (http://www.yenko.net/attachments/36694-zl1no1.jpg) on page 7 of this thread.
Rob and Tom,
I too was thinking the vinyl roof car is towing Little Hoss. Does the roof line and ventipane look like this car (http://www.impalass427.com/72res/RICKS68_2.jpg)?
ORIGLS6,
Awesome pictures! Thanks for posting these windows into history! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif
-Sam
The car parked in front of the trailer. Could it be that it is not hooked to the trailer, but instead just parked there. It kind of looks like the top of the '67 injected race car?
68TopStock
03-28-2003, 07:03 PM
Tom,
I have a poor quality copy of a pic of the car back of the car hauling Little Hoss, it appears to be an Impala coupe. It is from Helen and labled "California bound".
In the pic with your car, the angle of the pic looks like the car in front of the trailer is too close to be attached to the trailer though. Maybe it is the 67 funny.
Tom,
I agree, all red is very attractive, however, from an historical perspective, wouldn't 3 red/black cars look awesome together? With Joes car, make that 4.
ORIGLS6, any more conclusive pics from that trip?
ORIGLS6
03-28-2003, 07:15 PM
Ken,
Nothing at the moment. That's subject to change though.
DC
1967Z28
03-31-2003, 04:39 AM
Attached is a picture of a 1967 Z28 when it was new. Although the car looks black in the picture, it is actually Tahoe Turquoise. It was one of five '67 Z28s sold through Washburn Chevrolet in Santa Barbara, CA. I used to own the car in the early '80s and sold it to a friend who sat on it for the better part of two decades. Now it has been sold back to the original owner and he is doing a complete restoration on it. It's pretty neat when an original owner can get his old car back.
-Jon
1967 Z28 street car
1967 Z28 Trans Am race car
1967 Z28 Registry
rpoz11
04-13-2003, 03:40 AM
WOW! What a historical Pic! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif
ChrisS
08-23-2004, 03:37 AM
Going back to the first pics posted in this thread...
Frank M (hvychev) look what I found for you in Valparaiso today.
ChrisS
08-23-2004, 03:53 AM
Well... not really.
The current owner told me that he bought this car many years ago with the impression that it was the same one in the pic you posted that Frank Sr. took. The car in your pic later became the first "WE HAUL". Unfortunately, it is believed that car flipped during a run in the early seventies at a track in Ohio killing the driver. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Joe Satmary, did however, install the engine in this car and raced it for a short period before he left us several years ago.
Seltzer however, is still with us and actively racing in Northwest Indiana a '65 Chevy II that should by now be in the 9s.
ChrisS
08-23-2004, 03:57 AM
Frank, this would make a good tow vehicle for the Deuce. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Chris
what was the Swapmeet & Car Corral area like this year?
I forgot that show was this weekend! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
hvychev
08-23-2004, 05:46 AM
Thanks Chris! Haven't heard from you in a while. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
This is for those that never saw the pic. It is missing from the first page. See attachment. Dad took the pic in July 1969. Note the ZL-1 lettering on the front fender.
ChrisS
08-24-2004, 03:38 AM
Rick,
You didn't miss anything at the auction, corral or show and the swap was pitiful. Good thing it was only a couple miles from home and the weather nice.
Muncie
10-19-2011, 04:20 AM
Reliving my glory days, and came upon this forum. In late '68, I was living in Hammond, In., and building a 66 Chevelle/w 427 BB, and needed a set of headers.
I went to VanSenus auto parts as I had been there quite regularly for speed parts.
I met Fred VanSenus!
He was great to me, discounted many parts knowing I was young and poor. In this case, he said he had a friend who had lots of sets of headers that he tried for a short time, and would probably make me a good deal, plus, this friend could use extra bucks.
I called the guy, and he gave me directions to a back-alley garage in Hammond (I believe) so I proceeded post haste.
There I met Mr. Satmary, who was working on a brand new camaro frame. We exchanged handshakes, and he proceeded to show me about 12-15 sets of BB headers, and let me have my pick for $40.00
I put them in the trunk, and stayed a while. He explained he had just picked up this plain-Jane Camaro from Blaskovich(sp)Chevrolet. He had stripped it completely, and was returning the engine(6 cyl), trans, running gears, upolstery, frame sections, and everything except the body, deck lid, and doghouse.
As I remember, he was drilling plugs from a square channel frame that was made for this body. I asked why drill a new frame, and he said to lighten it!
I hung around a while longer, and seeing he was tiring of the questions, I started to leave. He said I could come back any time, and I did return a few times, but he was always busy working it seemed.
Shortly after, I moved back to Shelbyville and finished the Chevelle with his headers. I thought of him lots as I grew up.
A real racing legend and good guy.
mockingbird812
10-19-2011, 04:27 AM
Welcome aboard Muncie. Cool story. What happened to your Chevelle?
PeteLeathersac
10-19-2011, 01:54 PM
Very cool stories...more, more!.
Welcome aboard Muncie!.
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~ Pete
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YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
10-19-2011, 02:20 PM
Welcome!
Do you recall the Nankivell Olds dealer in Shelbyville, IN??
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