Best vehicle w/3rd seat? Durango? Sub/Yukon?

[Chevy454]

The wife says we need a 3rd seat, so I'm car shopping again. She's kind of leaning towards a Durango, but my bow-tie roots are deep. I'm not sure we can swing a new body style Sub/Yukon/Tahoe (unless we stumble onto a deal...NOT!) but I'm gonna try, and she's not crazy about the '92-'99 versions, so she's got me asking about the Durangos. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

The wife is leaning Durango, becuase they are cheaper, but in my mind, they are cheaper for a REASON. My thinking is the Tahoe/Yukon would hold it's value better, and from what I hear, the quality and gas mileage would definitely be better. I see these killer deals on new rigs, but I don't think we could ever swing a new rig price.

Any and all thoughts are appreciated!

[Charley Lillard]

Bug Dennis Barker. I would think there are some Killer Deals on New stuff. Maybe 0% Financing ? Doesn't hurt to ask. He's just sittin on his Ass doin nuttin anyway....

[Jeff H]

I'd stay away from the Durango. Serious problems with the brakes and other issues. Plus like you said, the Chevy will hold more value.

[Allen]

In my biased opinion, Suburbans are the way to go. I've had three, and my current one is a '99..... the last of that body style. The present design was launched in '00.

The Durango has a third row, but no practical cargo space behind the seat. If you need a third row for family reasons, you also will have "stuff" to haul. Most of the smaller 3-row vehicles - except for a minivan like the Chryslers - don't have hardly any room beyond the seat at all. Kinda useless in my opinion.

With the Sub, I have an 8-passenger capacity, and also lots of flexibility. With the third row out, I have an enclosed 6' cargo area. With the third row out and second row folded down, I have an 8' cargo area.

Lots of room to haul people, stuff, people and their stuff, Nova parts /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif , materials for household projects, and whatever else is needed. Plus, a properly equipped one has the ability to tow things too.

Finally, since I'm on my soapbox, I like the safety factor. I used to have a beautiful '91 Sub 3/4 ton 4x4, mint, no rust that got nailed by some stupid F-150 driver who was speeding through town running stop signs. You can see pics at the link below.

http://community.webshots.com/album/27421281AmkcuFWCul

Due to seeing how well they held up and being thankful I wasn't in a little car, I replaced it with another Suburban (of course!), and also replaced my wife's minivan with something more truck-like. She didn't need the third row since we all ready have my truck, so I put her in a Yukon. It's only two foot less in length than mine, and she can handle either truck with no problems.

Anyway, you have several choices, and my input is just one of many perspectives to consider. Good luck!

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[Tom Hendricks]

New is sure a good route, right now. Large incentives and low financing. However, in this part of the country, inventory is low. I have two new Subs in inventory now. I'd sure work with you on price and delivery. I am in Ohio. Please feel free to call or email. 800-688-2837 and ask for Tom Thanks !

[Zedder]

Rob,

Don't forget about the Trail Blazer EXT. Same size as a Suburban for a lot less bucks. We just leased a full load TB without the EXT package and it is a beautiful truck.

[budnate]

Rob, go with the Yukon,
My buddy picked one up last year with 10K on it for 19K, its way nicer than our Jeep, basically a Durango, like the guys said they have no storage, I wouldnít own it anymore except its paid for and that is a good thing about now with the economy, there has to be some great deals on rigs, I see lots of stuff not selling around here.

See ya , Bud.

[MosportGreen66]

I bought a Durango in 1998 (when it first debuted) and I was somewhat pleased despite the "half seat" third row, constant gas station visits and the odd amount noises that occurred the a/c was on. The truck handled an open trailer better then an enclosed trailer because it is shorter suv. I drove the truck close to 115,000 miles and then sold it for $9,900 on e-bay. Then I bought a 2002 GMC Yukon. The truck is a beige on beige (leather) and I have never had a problem with the truck. There is nothing I don't like on the truck. You can get the truck with a bench seat in the middle row or 2 buckets. I got the bucket seats. I have towed my enclosed trailer (Corvette or Chevelle inside) truck holds its ground. Open or enclosed trailer. I highly recommend the Yukon. It even looks good with those new "VETTEHLR" plates Good luck!

-Dan
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[SS427]

I will assure you that Tom works a great deal. Three times he has beat the local competition by a large amount of money and did not pressure me. One of those competitors I had purchaced 5 new cars from and they could not match his price. His dealership (Bud's CHevrolet) also gave me full use of their custom painted Avalanch truck while I was at Chevellabration. Just my .02 worth but tough to beat.
Rick

[hvychev]

Rob The Expedition is also a good canidate. At least your dad would be happy. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif (I think you said he digs some of them blue ovals) Also I would look at a car used in what you are looking for. BIG Savings. For example I have an 03 used Tahoe LS 4X4 that would be about 10-12,000 less than new. Don't be the sucker who looses 5-6G as soon as you pull on the street with a new one. PM me if you are interested in the Tahoe or an Expedition.

[Stefano]

The Soft and highly incentivized new car/truck market has driven the price of used vehicles down as well. So both new and used are a relative bargin in todays market.

The Suburban/Tahoe/Silverado are the "best" vehicles GM produces as far as quality and functionality ,IMO.

[Chevy454]

Unfortunately, new is not a viable auction. I know GM has some killer deals, but I don't think we could swing it. I'm really leaning Tahoe/Yukon/Sub the more I think about it.

Quick question for the dealers online: if I find a '00+ Tahoe/Yukon that does NOT have a 3rd seat, is it possible to get one (& I guess belts), or do I need to look for one with it already?

[BUIZILLA]

Frank, does that '03 have 4.10 gears and cloth, or leather? what color(s)? third seat and lift gate?

thanx, Jim

[barker]

Rob,
You cannot add a 3rd seat. Safety requirements will not allow it. I can check our inventory on Monday for you if you would like.Let me know !!
Thanks,
Dennis Barker

[Belair62]

Rob...look at an Explorer too....we have one with 3rd seat and DVD....it's awsum and dooesn't look like an after thought in the design area like the EXT does in my opinion.

[hvychev]

Jim I can check the gear ratio tomorrow. It is Charcoal grey dark cloth, I think it has a third seat and lift gate.

[Chevy454]

So, anyone ever cruise the auto auctions and know what a new body style Sub/Tahoe with some miles can be had for? Remember, it's gotta have a 3rd seat.

[Michael]

Put a Dodge in your garage...J/K --The only thing I can tell you is the Dodge is HARD on fuel.

[MadMike]

Suburban - hands down. I have one (a 1990 model) and it's got 230K on the clock. I'll replace it with another one.

You can score a used one for short money.

Go with your gut and you know the answer. When my wife wanted a "mini-van" to compliment the suburban she was whining for a windstar. I insisted on the astro. And we know that choice paid us back when it mattered. My experience with fords is they explode. literally. I don't know why mrF can't build stuff that won't catch on fire when it gets whacked. Except my wifes escort... that caught on fire while she was just driving down the road. My cavalier never did that. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

re: dodge. "Hey, does that thang have a hemi?" Nope - I gotta bow-tie tattooed on my fat arse. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Chevy454]

Nice to see you back on the board, Mike! I hope all is well with you and yours. Oh, and I'm trying to listen to my gut...but my wife keeps trying to change it's mind!

[Mr70]

I think Mikes testament speaks Volumes.
I woud say he is in good spirits again.
Thata Boy! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[hvychev]

Rob I go to the auction every week. I have a 2003 Tahoe LS 4X4 (I think it has a third seat) for $28500-$29,500 right around there. I will have to check tomorrow to be sure if you are interested. Miles are around 30K. It is a really nice truck.

[Chevy454]

Frank:

Thanks for the offer, but it's out of the price range were looking at. I'm trying to stay under $20k, so I'm gonna have to settle for something with some miles (60k or less), preferably dark blue or black, but the third seat is MANDATORY. Leather and 4wd would be gravy.

So, sound possible, or a pipe dream?!

[Allen]

That sounds very possible if you target a 98-99 Suburban. My vote is a '99, but I'm biased since I have one. My first Sub was an '89, the second a '91, and my current is the '99. For all around usage as both a people and stuff hauler, they are great vehicles.

[Stefano]

Have you hooked up with Nick Opie?

www.marengoautogroup.com (http://www.marengoautogroup.com)

[BUIZILLA]

Rob, mines a 2001 LS one owner, 3 seater, Indigo blue, 38k miles, 2wd, traction control, ALL toys, no scratches, dings or paint work ever... $21,500 if your interested. I want an Aviator.

J

[69RSZ]

i own a 1999 tahoe and have 84k miles on it and the only problem i had was a bad gas tank sending unit when it was 3 weeks old,gm replaced it at no cost and is still working.my problem is im hard on brakes and am on my 3rd set of fronts and second set of rears but i also tow with it.just my 2 cents. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

Ron C
69RSZ
02 35th perf edition #11
71 SS LS5 chevelle

[Supergas990]

From my experience I would strongly reeccommend either the Suburban or the Tahoe. I've got one of each and they both have their own capabilities.

My Suburban is a 1989 3/4 ton 454 w/T400 - It's used primarily for towing (28 ft. car hauler)and does that very well. It's also got a ton of room for the family and anything else you want to bring with you.

The Tahoe is a 1997 with the 5.7. It's great for family stuff and towing smaller open trailers, boats, car dollys, hauling parts, etc... But, I wouldn't recommend any towing of an enclosed trailer. The 1/2 ton chassis doesn't seem to be cut out for it.

I talked my wife into the Tahoe by boycotting the minivan idea, and she's never been happier. IMO the Suburban is the perfect solution to all the family and towing vehicle issues. If you can't swing the bill one however, the Tahoe is the next best thing.

[CWilliams]

This thread couldn't have come along at a better time! I'm in the market for a similar vehicle and I'm considering Tahoe/Suburban/Avalanche.
One question- are you guys driving 4x4 or 4x2's?

[Allen]

We're the GM truck poster family.....

I drive a '99 Suburban K2500, 4x4, 454 engine.

We had a minivan for over four years, but last summer I got rid of it and convinced my wife she needed to drive a '99 Yukon K1500, 4x4, 350 engine.

Between those two trucks, if we can't push it, pull it, haul it, drag it, carry it, or tow it, we don't need it!

[VintageMusclecar]

FWIW;

I have a `95 Suburban 3/4 ton 454 automatic, and I lovingly refer to it as my "anvil." Of all the vehicles I've ever owned, this has by far been the best in terms of reliability and versatility. The only trouble I've had out of it was the ubiquitous toasted wiper motor and a worn-out pitman arm. I bought it with 116K miles almost 4 years ago and it's showing almost 139K now...still rides/drives like a new truck.

GM did their homework on the Suburbans.

HTH.
Eric

[69RSZ]

i have a 4x4 2door tahoe and it tows my 23 ft enclosed trailer with no problem even at 75 mph /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

Ron C
69RSZ
02 35th perf edition #11
71 SS LS5 chevelle

[mc25t190]

19 yrs. in the business, ran a dodge store for 7 1/2 yrs, own 2 gmc stores with partners as well. durango handles and drives better, but, has been prone to some rearend problems from 98-00.it also sucks the gas down. having owned both i would advise a 1999 suburban and can get you one at almost anytime $15500-$19000 depending on miles you are willing to accept.

[CWilliams]

Is '99 the body change for the Suburban? Seems like 1999 models keep coming up, are there other differences?

[Allen]

The '99 model year Suburban was the last of that body style. The '00 is a new design. In my opinion, it seems that GM usually produces the best vehicles at the end of the model run since most of the problem issues have been resolved.

Also, due to the new design in '00, the '99's tend to have a less expensive price because it is now the "old" body style.

[budnate]

Rob, if you are still looking here ya go!.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2424562783&category=61 44

Amazes me when people park brand new stuff like this for all these years.

Bud.

[hvychev]

amazing......

[bilede]

Currently I own a 98 3/4 ton 4x4 with a 454 suburban. It is the 9th one in the family and highly recommend them. I also currently own a 2000 dodge dakota 2wd with the 5.9litre v8 which at half the weight gets only 1 mpg better than the suburban and has spent a day for every month old in the dealership for engine repairs. Go with the sub/yukon all the way! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

[BBIGG BLOCK 396]

Just seen on the news today about the Durango front ends,the wheels are splitting on the front and the ball joints are breaking.I would stay away from them.My wife loves her SURBURBAN. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

Bobby

[CWilliams]

TTT

[CWilliams]

Guys- I brought this post back up because I've decided on a suburban but have some questions. I really like the 2500 and like the thoughts of having all the towing/hauling capabilities I'll need. I tow a 20'camper, the '67 some and the '01 some with an open/tilt trailer. Concern is around using the 2500 as an everyday vehicle. Most 2500's I've found are '98-'99's, 4x4's with vortec 454's. What would be the difference in mpg between a 2500 vs. a 5.7l 1500 (prefer 2wd), What would I give up towing wise between a 1500? 2500 2WD's are harder to find, 1500 2wd's can be found easy. Thanks for your help.

[Allen]

In my biased opinion, the 2500 (3/4 ton model) Suburban is the way to go based on your list of towing uses (camper, cars).

The advantages over the 1500 (1/2 ton) models include: larger brakes, heavier frame, stronger transmission, stronger rear differential, and the availability of the big block 454 (in the '99 and earlier models).

The margin of safety with the stronger parts and additional towing capacity of the 2500 make it a hands-down choice. I realize you are in Georgia and 4WD isn't a priority, but I'd recommend getting it.

Aside from the obvious reason of 2WD 2500's are even harder to find than a 4WD 2500, think of the future...... maybe you'll want to tow a boat with that truck and having 4WD on a boat ramp to assist in pulling you out when your rear wheels are on a slippery slope could be an asset! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Regarding fuel mileage, a 2500 with the 350 (5.7L) isn't going to give you an advantage over the 454 (7.4L). The truck is heavier and the 350 will have to work harder than the 454 to move it along. The reduced efficiency of the 350 means that a mileage advantage most likely won't be there or will be marginal at best. The additional torque of the 454 is well worth sacrificing a mile-per-gallon.

For a Suburban that you do plan on working by towing campers and cars, I wouldn't consider a 1500 in any form. It's like anything else..... it's best to get the right tool for the job the first time.... then you won't second guess yourself or have regrets.


My biased opinion is based on being the proud owner of a '99 GMC Suburban K2500 (454, 4WD, loaded). I've had two previous Suburbans prior to that, and all were 3/4-ton models.

Good luck with your search! If you have any specific questions, feel free to email me.

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[CWilliams]

Allen-Thanks! Great feedback. I had the same thoughts, seems like the 350 would be harder on the transmission too, shifting more, etc. Thanks again.

[lowmile]

I have a 2 wheel drive 2500 454 95 Suburban that is 8600 GVW with 68000 miles on it. I pull a camper and enclosed trailer with it. It does a great job but it only gets about 8 or 9 mpg running around but man does it work out on the road!I new I liked you a Nova and a 2500 Burb. Hope your feeling better. Mark