70 nova 396/375 L/78

[69YENKO162]

70 nova L78 #s match cko motor,original tuxedo black with black bucket seats,correct date 4sp trans,has 373 12 bolt rearend,pb radio delete. Protecto plate in warrenty book.Original sheet metal and floor pans. a nice driver car. e-mail [email protected]

[69YENKO162]

$26.500

[L78Impala]

69YENKO, can you post a couple of photos? Where is the car located?

Billy

[69YENKO162]

Loc: McHenry IL. I will have a site with pictures in a few days.

[Nova Research Project]

69YENKO162;

I will host them on my site if you want.

Greg

[Mr70]

Is this Nova a survivor & was a Dave S. the owner?

[69YENKO162]

No Dave S a ownner. The car was raced out east with a different motor and put back together in Penn.

[BUIZILLA]

Is this Fred Vetter's old car based out of Bellmawr, NJ??

J

[garryvette55]

69 Yenko,
When are you going to post the Nova Pictures?

[69YENKO162]

Here is a site that has some pictures.

http://www.geocities.com/[email protected]/Nova4Sale.html

[69YENKO162]

There is a picture of the old steering wheel. But now there is a brand new one on their.

[lowmile]

Nice car. Is it an original 4sp car? What's the story on the shifter style and location? Looks like it came out of a Camaro or 70 copo Nova.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I noticed that too, unusual for the shifter to come up through the middle of the tunnel. To my knowledge, only the COPO Novas have that because they are the only Novas to come from the factory with a Hurst shifter.

Regardless, a very nice car! Love the wheels!

[Allen]

This one was on Ebay some time ago. I remember discussing it on the Nova site.

[69YENKO162]

The shifter is not original it was changed a few years ago.The boot and plate is the same as my 69 camaro. It could be changed no big deal.

[CamarosRus]

I understand that this VERY nice Nova is not an exact restoration. 1) Are those small Hubcaps from 1969, whereas the 70 Nova's and Camaros used a BowTie centered Baby Moon on the CL coded wheel (see attached pic) ..... 2) The L-78 engine (after Jan 1, 1970) used the Dual Snorkel Aircleaner one of which was for sale at Super Chevy INDY for $1500 and sold for ????

[Supercar_Kid]

camarorus, the hubcaps are correct. 70 Novas did not use the baby moon style caps in 1970, they used the same ones as 69. I don't know what the wheel codes are, but i do know the car pictured has the correct hubcaps.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

The caps are the correct ones, the wheels would be coded 'XT's just like the '69 Camaros and Novas. The redlines stopped in '69 though. This car was discussed at length on the Nova site, but that board is down right now so can't attach a link.

[Allen]

Marlin, the redlines were done after '69? Hmmmm..... my original vision for my '70 is to use the original XT rims and some redlines.

Maybe I'll just have to go with some sporty raised white letter tires.... 'cause I can't bring myself to putting on a set of white stripe tires. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[CamarosRus]

I just checked Alan Colvins 1970-75 Numbers book again....Looks like the Nova's didnt use the "CL" wheels until 71 and 72. I am STILL seeking 4 or 5 CL wheels for my 70 SS Camaro(and misc Z-28 wheel components also)....thanks, Chuck S.......p.s. Dual Snorkel Air Cleaner pic attached

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Hey now! Those white stripe tires are cool lookin! You could install the optional twin white wall tires??
I decided not to put the Atlas wheels/white lettered tires on the car for the York show, I don't really like them on the Gobi Beige.
http://www.yenko.net/features/2001/August-01-4-big.jpg

[69YENKO162]

I am sure there are some things that are not right or perfect with my nova Iam not saying it is a #1 show car. It is a nice driver car that I take to small local shows and I know there isnt another car like it at the show.

[John]

....I think it is one "Bad Ride"...and would love to cruise into a car show in that Nova! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
.....I would get tags that said "ZORRO". /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[JoeG]

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.....I would get tags that said "ZORRO".

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69YENKO162,
Just don't go on any dates with a cape and sword------------pretty NOVA--and your right it is special /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif--------JoeG

[hvychev]

Would SOMEBODY PLEASE find poor Chuck some CL wheels already??!!!!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

How long can this guy wait!

[JRSully]

My 2 cents, I think the Jury is still out on weather or not every 70 L78 Nova built after Jan 70, had the dual snorkel air cleaner, any absolute verification.???

[Mr70]

JRSully
I know of two local survior L78 1970 Novas,that have the open element Air Cleaner.I don't believe that earlier statement is true.Some got a Dual,but not each one.

[CamarosRus]

As these "discussions" sometimes go, I dont think PROOF positive of my claim will ever be available. I am currently
thinking that the non cowl LS-6 Chevelles (production started ??) 1970 Camaros (production started Jan/70') and the 70 Nova's produced after Jan 1 or there abouts used the Dual Snorkel enclosed aircleaner. Chuck Hansen from ACES suggests that new EPA noise regulations for 1970 might have required G.M. to lower the sound level of the engines otherwise using open element air cleaners ??????? .....At any rate based on the assy manual, I will maintain that ALL the 1970 L-78 Camaros came with the enclosed A/C....Chuck S/Seattle

[sixtiesmuscle]

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[Nova Research Project]

mr70;

No chance you know the trim tag dates on the one with and the one with out?

Greg

[Nova Research Project]

CamarosRus;

Here are a few notes I have from the parts books. It really only applies to the Nova.

The Dual Snorkel Air Cleaner part number 6485257 was added to the L78 (Sp. H/Per.) in the 1970 Nova AIM on 12/12/69. I believe it replaced 6485239 which is also listed in the 1970 Nova AIM as the L34 (i.e. 396 H./Per. or 396 exc. Sp. H/Per.) Air cleaner.

6485239 is the 1970 396 Air Cleaner listed in the 1970 only Parts and Accessories book effective September 1, 1969. No mention of 6485257, Sp/ H./Per or H./Per. 396 applications.

6485239 is listed in the 1962-1970 Parts and Accessories book effective October 1, 1969 as the L34 (i.e. 396 exc. Sp. H/Per.) only Air Cleaner. It is also listed as the Chevelle 396 exc. Sp. H/Per., Chevelle 454 H/Per., and the Camaro 396 Air Cleaner.

6485257 is listed in the 1962-1970 Parts and Accessories book the L78 (i.e. 396 Sp. H/Per.) Air Cleaner.

So Ö The AIM shows the change in December 1969 and the 1962-1970 Parts and Accessories book in October 1969. Now of 200 or so Novaís I have seen in the last year or so in the internet, on ebay or in person, none have the Duel Snorkel Air Cleaner. It must be rare or very unpopular and swapped out.

I do know that the September 1969 Rear Sway bar change in the AIM did not hit production until about May 1970. So it is possible that the December change did not hit production until late in the model year. I have not started a Nova Times back issue search for the Duel Snorkel Air Cleaner , But it is on the research list. Until then or some good examples with trim tag dates, nothing more will be known. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif BTW both used the same element. I did try to back in the application from the element.

Greg

[Mr70]

Chuck
That picture attachment is only revealing the top 1/5th.
I have buildsheets and pix and have seen in person 6 1970 LS6's built Jan to May 1970 that have the open element SS air cleaner.Coded SS in box 55.One is a survivor owned by Dean R. now currently Chad from here.

Greg
I don't have those trim Tags info right now.I can call the owners and see if they will release it to me though.
Rick

[Supercar_Kid]

I have heard that it is estimated that only 200-400 Chevelles ever got the dual snorkel air cleaner in 70. There are a few posts about this air cleaner on Team Chevelle, and it seems everyone has a differing opinion... If i recal correctly, someone suggested the dual snorkel was actually designed for the camaro, and when the L78 was discontinued they used up the remaining stock of them on the chevelle(?) I don't really remember exactly, so don't quote me on this, as it may be 100% false. I do know that the dual snorkel seems to be a rare piece to find anywhere, so I would guess it was used in very limited quantities in relation to the open element style.