Does anyone know this guy or cars?

[SuperCars]

There is a thread posted on my website forum www.corvettes-musclecars.com (http://www.corvettes-musclecars.com) by a J.A. Ferguson in reference to a collection he says are his cars. He left one message dated Sept 17, 2003 listing approx 40-50 rare American cars, and another was just posted today Oct 9, 2003 listing about 30-40 rare Foreign exotic cars. He did not leave an email address, but his I.P. address is from the "Moody Bible Institute" in Chicago. Maybe he's a Pastor with an awesome collection. Or it could be a hoax. Anyone have knowledge of this collection of cars, or is someone just playing games? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif

[JChlupsa]

Kevin, I noticed that last week about his list of cars and thought it was odd that he didnt leave a contact or point of contact since he visited your site. Also says he doesnt do tours ETC just takes them out now and then.

Just noticed he put up a new list of another 30 or so cars. very impressive!!!

[Mr70]

A Long shot,but I will ask a person I know,who may know of this claim.
This is the first I've heard of it.

[SuperCars]

It's probably Belair. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif He's just been holding out on us on what he really has hidden away. And the way he's been acting lately, he needs to be at a Bible Institute. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Born30YrsLate]

Perhaps someone needs to reply to the post that he entered on SuperCars website and tell him he should visit this site and he would be more than welcome to chime in.....I can do it if someone doesn't do it first?..... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[Belair62]

I've been very good Kevin.....Motown won't play with me anymore so I am repenting...what kind of cars did he list ? I am boycotting your site since you found the Dana car.

[JChlupsa]

Posted By: J.A. Ferguson
Date: Wednesday, 17 September 2003, at 1:21 p.m.

First of all I just want to compliment Kevin on a great collection of rare supercars and vettes. This is a fantastic collection of the truly rare musclecars. I was wondering if you knew of any other collections as complete and fine as yours when it comes to these really rare pieces. As it turns out I have a few of these myself and I am interested in acquiring more of them. I am looking at a 71 Baldwin Motion Corvette. Anything you can reply with would be great. I want to find several more quality rare factory original musclecars.
Here is a list of my musclecars, vettes, and a few others. This is a private collection that I do not display at all to the public. But they get shown off occasionally.
69 Baldwin Motion Nova SS 427
69 Baldwin Motion Camaro RS/SS 427
70 Baldwin Motion Chevelle SS 454 Phase III (recently restored)
70 Chevelle SS454 LS6 (very original)
69 Camaro SS396
67 Chevelle SS 396 ragtop (my first car in the collection)
69 Corvette 427 convertible
67 Corvette L-71 427 convertible
67 Corvette L-71 427 coupe
63 split window coupe
2 62 Corvettes
69 L-88 Coupe
93 ZR1 40th ann.
96 Grand Sport conv.
98 Corvette coupe
57 Corvette fuelie
53 Corvette
69 Plymouth Roadrunner Hemi
69 Dodge Super-Bee 440 Six pack
69 Dodge Coronet 440 Magnum
69 Dodge Charger 440 Magnum
69 Dodge Daytona Hemi
69 Dodge Coronet Hemi (very sharp and completly original)
69 Plymouth Cuda 383
70 Hemi Cuda
70 Dodge Challenger 340 T/A
92 Dodge Viper RT/10
96 Dodge Viper GTS
65 G.T.O.
66 G.T.O.
69 G.T.O. Judge Ram Air IV
69 Trans-Am 400 Ram Air IV
78 Trans-Am anniversary ed.
69 Hurst/Olds
70 Buick GSX Stage I
68 AMC AMX 390
70 Ford Mustang Boss 302
70 Ford Torino Cobrajet
68 Shelby Cobra GT 500-KR
67 Shelby Cobra 427 (original not kit)
There others including foreign exotics like Lambos, Ferrari, and Porshe, but those probably are not interesting to anyone here.
Once again great collection of the finest supercars and vettes. It seems almost to good to be true. I have to come out to Seattle to see it all. It is beautiful up there.
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Thank-you for the compliment on the collection I just enjoy performance cars. I do not like classic euros like old Ferrari and Jaguars. I also have no interest in old american fender cars like Cords, Auburns, Packards, Dusenburgs, etc. I guess Chandlers collection is very impressive but I liked his muscle car collection more, although the oldies are worth a lot more. But who cares about value if you can't drive them. I enjoy muscle, exotics, vettes, and some hot rods with a couple classic american pickups. I am actually in talks with a gentleman about posting my collection on a website like this so I would appreciate any suggestions from anybody. He has some other projects ahead of me, but I like his work so I will wait. Also I hope to have a better place to show my collection in about a year. In response to your question (and I apologize for the wait I just forget I had a post to respond to) the exotics and a few others.
F-40
F-50
and recently acquired Enzo
348TB
360 Modena
550 Maranello
84 Testarosa
Diablo
Diablo GTR (Newest Piece in collection)
Countach
Murcielago
Bugatti EB-110
Jaguar XJ-220
Porsche 959
911 GT1
Boxster
911 Carrera
911 Turbo
Acura NSX
Viper RT/10
GTS coupe
McClaren F-1 LM
Mercedes-Benz CLK GTR
Callaway C-12
Saleen S-7
Detomaso Pantera
Delorean DMC-12
Plymouth Prowler
Mazda RX-7 (Not the new one)
TVR Speed 12
Also Original Hummer
78 Little Red express truck
59 Ford F-150 (first year of four wheel drive)
several 30's era ford hot rods
55 chevy and 57 chevy hot rods
49 Mercury rod
58 Chevy Impala Hot rod
and others
this is supposed to be just muscle cars forum. Sorry I will just focus on those. They are the greatest period of american cars or any other for that matter!!! Hope to get a website soon!
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Its too early and fast for the 2 Army SSGT's that hit the lotto to gain a collection so who is the mystery person.

[Zman]

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[Stefano]

I guess the cat is finally out of the bag. That happens to be Mr Gasser's collection. I believe he sold a few due to some space constraints /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[55chevy]

Can we see some pics of those Motion cars?? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[MosportGreen66]

I consider myself extremely lucky for owning the high status cars that I do. How on earth does that man afford 50+ cars?? Wow, that man has more money then Bill Gates.

[Mr70]

Stefano
What are the details on the 1970 B/M Chevelle?
Aside from the one in the OC Collection,and Kevin S.1969,I never heard of any others.

[SuperCars]

Mr70, I think Stefano was joking about Mr Gasser, like I was kidding Belair (although it's good to hear Belair say he's cleaning up his act/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif). The question is: is J.A. Ferguson joking? I do see someone else responded on my site to Ferguson's thread today, saying he didn't believe those cars exist(used more choice words than that though).

[Mr70]

Thanks Kevin.
Stefano you suck. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I checked with two sources here,and none have heard of that collection.
I too am thinking this is a Hoax,Because anyone with a collection that big here,would have been well known about by someone by now.
My only other thoughts,are possibly the Ricobene (sp?) brothers from over here?But I don't know them that well...

[Stefano]

Geez guys, I did use the /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif to signify tounge in cheek, not serious. I did call a couple of members of the Ferrari Club to see who if anyone in Chicago owns an Enzo, F50 as well as F40. I was told that they knew of no one.

What I want to know is why no COPOs or Yenkos in that collection /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Mr70]

No,you used this guy. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif
And Still I bit. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Born30YrsLate]

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Stefano
What are the details on the 1970 B/M Chevelle?
Aside from the one in the OC Collection,and Kevin S.1969,I never heard of any others.


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Rick - JoeG (here on this site) has a '69 BM Chevelle...so now you know of 3 BM Chevelles......he is the original owner of the car as well.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[JChlupsa]

Another post on Kevins site. Do we lock this one down and delete it and extend our hands out to this guy to see what he really has in Supercars and other US muscle cars???

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From JA Ferguson:

Whoa Rob I never meant to make anybody mad! It is hard for me to believe this collection but I have been working at it since 1993. like I said I am working on a website deal so be a little patient with me because computers are not my strength. Also I don't think anybody would bother to lie like that anyways, its just a waste of time. I just thought there would be a little more interest here in the cars I have. I would appreciate ideas on the site for these pieces that I DO own! You will notice that I am to particular in my chooices to just think of the "greastest" cars out there. Some of these are fairly obscure vehicles that most don't recognize the value of. So I am glad that you did.
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[Stefano]

Mr70,
Definately not the Ricobene Collection. Unless, Sam and Frank went on a huge buying spree within the last few months.

[hvychev]

Weird I made a post in this thread that is not here now. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif Stefano & Rick last I heard was that the Ricobenes were liquidating their collection. A friend of mine bought a 70 Chevelle LS5 454 convert NOM without any paperwork that was an older resto for 38K from them last year.

[Belair62]

SuperCars..... http://www.ls1.com/forums/images/smilies/booty.gif

[mr gasser]

Stefano I think that was the collection of the hinsdale /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gifking and Bill Wilt. Are you still partners with uncle Vic... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[JoeG]

http://www.ls1.com/forums/images/smilies/booty.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif Babys got back

[SuperCars]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif Ha-Ha, there you go again Belair, showing us your best side. Reminds me of Creedence Clearwater Revival song: "I see a bad moon arising"

[Stefano]

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[55chevy]

I believe Mr. Fergusson could very well have this collection he says. I myself have emassed quite a collection of some very rare muscle cars that I haven't made public yet. Here is a list of a few cars in my collection:

2 - 69 Baldwin Motion Phase III 427 Novas (1 red 1 black)
69 Baldwin Motion Phase III 427 Camaro (imaculate condition)
70 Baldwin Motion Phase III 454 Camaro
70 Baldwin Motin Phase III 454 Chevelle
69 L88 427 Vette with ZL1 427 in it
62 Impala SS409 (red on red and very clean)
2 - 70 Chevelle SS454 (both LS6 1 blue 1 black)
67 Chevelle SS396 L78
2 - 55 Chevy convertibles
55 Chevy Bel Air hardtop
3 - 55 Chevy 2 dr posts (all 3 straight axle, tilt front gasser style)
71 Chevelle SS454 convertible
71 Chevelle SS454 hardtop
72 Chevelle SS454 convertible
72 Chevelle SS454 hardtop
78 Trans Am (Bandit edition)
69 W-32 Cutlass
69 Camaro SS396 Convertible (L78/L89)
65 GTO (tri-power)
68 Chevelle SS396 L78 (all original)
70 Trans Am Ram Air IV
68 Olds 442 W-30
57 Chevy Cameo pickup
55 Chevy Pickup (all original)
this is just to name a few....
I've got many others /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gifof course MY collection is in 1/18th scale /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

Mr Fergusson never did say what scale his were in... did he? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

just a thought.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

If the guy is for real I invite him to introduce himself to this site and all of us and welcome him to share pics of his collection with us as well as the knowledge he's accumulated by owning those cars. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[DarrenX33]

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like I said I am working on a website deal so be a little patient with me because computers are not my strength.

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With all the $$$ he has to buy cars of this caliber. Wouldn't you think hiring a 13 year old webmaster to put together a website for him would be a no brainer? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[JChlupsa]

Posted by Mr Ferguson:

> OMIGOSH Know I realize the confusion out there!!!!!!!!!!!!
> These cars are REPLICAS that I have built and Collected through the years
> not the actual cars. I was unaware that my initial response did not
> mention that. I thought that theses responses seemed a little too
> enthustatic. My apologies to all for the misunderstanding although it was
> a nice little dream while it lasted i suppose if I had just taken the time
> to proofread those posts before shooting them off. right now I feel pretty
> dumb but o well I do seriously have a close friend working on helping me
> gather digital pictures of these cars for a website and will post them
> sometime. But I don't think anyone here will beinterested anymore because
> these are MODELS not real cars! O well I still enjoy them also I have to
> admit that in reality the only person who could make such a collection
> exsist in real life is the sultan of brunei. Guys check him out on the
> web, because if you think that this model collection would be hard to
> believe in reality wait till you see what this Sultan has. And his ARE
> REAL!!
> Sorry again P.S. you will notice I referred to these as PIECES and not cars or automobiles in my previous posts so I was not trying to mislead anybody just inform about my "colection"

[55chevy]

/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif Looks like I nailed that one right on the head /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif

[hvychev]

You have gotta be $hittin me! What a total tool! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

He said 'Tool', heh, heh, heh heh /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[whitetop]

That was Mr. Fergusons 15 minutes of fame.

I went back and read those post on Supercars website. In his first post he said the '70 Motion Chevelle was recently restored and the '67 Cobra was original and not a kit. His first post was clearly meaning he had the real cars and not models. He rebutted that he called his cars "pieces" (his term meaning models) but also calls Kevins cars pices as well.
He only confessed they were models when someone pointed out his IP add as the Bible Institute. Probably afraid someone would come back to his employer or himself.

Guess it comes back to the meaning of what the definition of "is" is. We can thank Bill "Stainmaster" Clinton for this.

[Mr70]

I read his recent response as Back Peddling.
He bit off more then he could chew.

[scuncio]

I gots me a Dusenberg on the shelf....

[JoeG]

Gets kind of confusing--I guess if Mr.Ferguson says he's dating a real doll--who do you think Raggedy Annie, Barbie??---JoeG /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Born30YrsLate]

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Gets kind of confusing--I guess if Mr.Ferguson says he's dating a real doll--who do you think Raggedy Annie, Barbie??---JoeG /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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Just as long as it's not Teen Fun Skipper - cause he could get jail time for that!...like they say 16 can get you 20...../ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

[whitetop]

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--who do you think Raggedy Ann or Barbie...

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We can only hope. I'm thinking something more like Mr. Hat with this guy.