View Full Version : Z 16 Chevelle...How many exsist today?
last67nova4speedbuilt
11-05-2003, 05:27 PM
Is there anybody out there who would know how many Z16's have been accounted for of the 201 originally built...thanks for your input. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif
GTO_DON
11-05-2003, 06:45 PM
I HAD ONE IN BACK IN 1984. AT THAT TIME 22 CARS HAD BEEN ACCOUNTED FOR. I STILL KNOW WHERE THE ONE I SOLD IS, BUT I DONT THINK HE WILL SELL IT...........DON /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY
11-05-2003, 08:35 PM
Did you sell it to the guy in West Chester, PA who has 3 of them - one in each color?
MosportGreen66
11-05-2003, 08:38 PM
Marlin, what are the colors?
Red, bright yellow, and (Black?)
Of the 201 made,75 are accounted for Today according to MM.This does not mean they are all in Driving condition.
Dan Blockers Butt touched one of them....
Z16's were available in these colors:
Regal Red
Crocus Yellow
Tuxedo Black
Cost was around $4,200.00 in 1965.
The one lone Company Fleet Convertible was Sierra Tan.
As of now,the convert.is believed to have been Destroyed.
mrrec
11-05-2003, 09:07 PM
There are about 65 known cars today according to the "keeper of the vins" in PA. I believe he has info on all of these cars and is very discrete and does not give out owner info. He is doing a great service to those of us with real Z16's - clones aren't a problem for me - fakes are.
If you really know Z16's, you know they are hard to fake because of some very unique items. I have been told recently by a parts maker that Z front spindles may be in the works - a part unique to the Z. If this happens, watch out for "built" cars. The Jim M. project should expose any fakes that do get built - I hope.
T Billigen
11-05-2003, 10:47 PM
none had positraction /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
GTO_DON
11-05-2003, 11:44 PM
SOLD IT TO A GUY IN BUCKS COUNTY. CAR HAS BEEN APART SINCE 84. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif
DaveC68
11-06-2003, 12:34 AM
Got a look (not close) at a 65 396 in a guys garage tonight, he said it was out of a chevelle...what else could it have been in 65? corvette?
ohhawk
11-06-2003, 01:04 AM
Several musclecar and Chevelle books often picture a very nice red one that is (or used to be) located in Iowa. Usually displays the old 1965 Iowa license plate showing Dallas County (probably in the Waukee, IA area). I live near this area yet I've never seen the car but am curious if anyone is familar with this car. Still the same owner of year's ago or has it since been sold?
last67nova4speedbuilt
11-06-2003, 02:05 AM
casting #3855961, 396-325hp. 2 bolt main...65-67 pass.veh.
#3855962, 396-425hp hi.perf. 65 vette
#3855962, 396-375hp hi perf. mechanical lifters for it to be from '65 Chevelle
Verne_Frantz
11-06-2003, 01:15 PM
Don't forget that the '65 L-78 (396-425hp) was also installed in full size Chevrolets in '65. I recall seeing a production total once that was around (I believe) 2500.
My best friend in high school had one.
Verne.
T Billigen
11-06-2003, 08:53 PM
I think all of the Z-16s had hydraulic lifters? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
TB is exactly right. My brother had a yellow one that would leave one black streek for about 300 yards! What was GM thinking??
Born30YrsLate
11-06-2003, 09:29 PM
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black streek for about 300 yards! What was GM thinking??
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What they should be thinking NOW!.... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
ORIGLS6
11-06-2003, 09:36 PM
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I think all of the Z-16s had hydraulic lifters?
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My thoughts too. Although the same engine in the Corvette and the full size cars got solids. Why? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
last67nova4speedbuilt
11-06-2003, 09:37 PM
sorry 'bout the spelling...I thought hydraulic was spelt m-e-c-a-n-i-c-a-l /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif Thanks for the correction it's nice to see everybody is paying attention!!!
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What was GM thinking??
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They weren't,but Vince Piggins was,as well as "Bunkie" Knudsen.
Two were built at Baltimore,while the others were built at KC Leeds Plant I believe.
Dennis
Hyrdauic lifter engine was 375HP,and more socially acceptable for the New Chevelle.The solid was 425HP,& the Corvette always got the highest HP first....But not in 1970 Baby!
Dennis on I-55.../ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif
I thought it was one prototype built in Baltimore then 200 built in KS.
I have heard rumor of a Z16 convertiable but never saw any evidence. I would think a picture of it would have been found if it was an internal GM car but who knows.
A Z-16 Chevelle was one of the quickest stock engine cars ever made. It ran in the 8s with stock engine. It also had some type of liquid fuel turbine engine in the rear. I have an article on it somewhere. I think it was built by a co. called Turbotronics
x44d80
11-06-2003, 11:15 PM
Mrrec. Who is doing the repop on the front spindles? Werent this spindles a little taller than the regular spindles?
GTO_DON
11-06-2003, 11:34 PM
I BELIEVE THE SPINDLES WERE A TAKEOFF FROM THE FULL SIZE CAR TO USE THE BIGGER BRAKES....MY Z-16 HAD A PROVISION MOLDED UNDER THE DASH FOR A FACTORY MANUAL CHOKE!
mrrec
11-07-2003, 04:26 PM
The Z16 spindles are unique to the Z16 and are not full size parts. They are a different appearing forging. The brake backing plate is also unique and not a big car part. The brake drum, however is big car.
Z16 cam is hydraulic and is the only 375hp chev cam. It also specs different from the later L78 cam.
I don't want to say who the potential spindle maker is as he is just considering it at this point.
If you rebuild (or build) the axe with a new handle and a new bit, is it still an original axe or a reproduction?!
Dave
jfkheat
11-07-2003, 08:04 PM
There is a red one sitting on the showroom floor at Kevin Whitaker Chevy in Greenville SC. He has several nice muscle cars in there. A local Chevelle parts dealer told me he saw the 1 convertible on an episode of I Dream of Jeannie.
James
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