Documented 1969 Phase III GT Motion Corvette [Archive]

69motionvet

12-03-2003, 08:01 PM

For all you Super Car fans! You all really seem to be into the super cars so wanted to share this unique car with you.

This is a 1969 Motion Phase III GT Corvette recently documented by Joel Rosen. It is one of one ever made! This Phase III GT has its matching number 427/435 engine with only 47000 original miles.

Original factory options include tilt/telescopic wheel, AM/FM radio,
and factory side pipes.

Motion modifications include: headlights, functional scooped hood, Shelby
side scoops molded into sail panels (the only one ever done like this), side louvers, rear window, fender flares, Dodge fuel filler, rear taillights, traction bar. This was also the only Corvette painted a custom gold lacquer with
unique hood stripes that outlined the functional hood scoop.

The car is currently undergoing a paint restoration to return it to the Motion gold color with black stripes. Everyone was so excited when gold was found on the backsides of the doors behind the door panels. Recently had the opportunity to talk with Gary The Brush. What a great guy. Heís looking through his archives to see if he can find photos of the car.

A picture of this car was in featured in Vette magazine in 1992. I have attached a picture you can see what it looks like.

This car has had four owners. We have been able to trace the car back to
the second owner. It has been in the current owners family since 1971.

In addition to the letter of documentation from Mr Rosen there is also a sworn/notarized affidavit from the second owner.

It was so great to have extensive conversations with Mr Rosen about these
great cars. He was able to give me so much help and information about the car. In our conversations he mentioned he even had a die cast model of this exact car.

The car will be offered for sale in the very near future.

George
914 523 8689

Born30YrsLate

12-03-2003, 08:54 PM

I don't get no picture?

69motionvet

12-03-2003, 09:03 PM

hi...i'm trying to figure out why that picture didnt take.
i scanned an article from vette magazine and tried to change it from .pdf to .txt..hopefully someone who understands these things can help me out.
thanks for your note

JoeC

12-03-2003, 09:16 PM

Was the original owner a pro football player?
Email the picture to me and I will try to post it
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Pantera

12-03-2003, 10:27 PM

Do you have any info about the original owner being a pro football player? One of his teammates was so impressed with this car that he reportedly went to Joel and bought my '69 Orange/black Baldwin car and had it painted black/gold. Some one called me with this info recently and I may know of the original owners location of the gold/black car.

Pantera

12-04-2003, 12:56 AM

Ok guys I got the pic from George and reworked it so it will post on here. Here goes hope the size is right.
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PxTx

12-04-2003, 01:03 AM

Two Black and Gold themed Corvettes? Must have been Steelers, right?

Paul

copo9566aa

12-04-2003, 01:17 AM

Humm i'm remember this vette with Shelby scoop in a old
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livettes

12-04-2003, 01:36 AM

I believe this car was offered on E-bay a few months back but did not meet the reserve.

69motionvet

12-04-2003, 01:52 AM

This car was being auctioned on ebay a few months back. At the time of the auction the car did not have a letter of documentation from Mr Rosen.
The auction was stopped before its end date at the owners request after Mr Rosen contacted me. Working closely with him we have been able to determine this is an authentic Motion Phase III GT. Mr Rosen has provided us with a letter of documentation.

Pantera

12-04-2003, 03:29 AM

I have information that a Gold car w'black interior was owned by a Mike Taylor (aka=Big Mike) played OT, #77 6'4" 245lb 24 yrs old drafted from USC and played 69-69. He took it to Joel in late '69? to make a Phase III out of it.

He also may have introduced a fellow player to Joel and that then bought my '69 Baldwin Phase III and then had it painted black w/Gold stripes. He must have been traded to Dallas because both of my Motion vettes came from the same used corvette dealer in Dallas named Ronie Diamond. The dealer (not diamond) I got the '69 from had bought it from Diamond.

A couple of years later I drove into his lot and saw my '70 car and later bought it when he traded back for it.

Kinda weird that the same dealer in Dallas had two of these cars come through his car lot. So that is all I know about these cars past history.
I Hope someone one here may know something about him. I sure need to find the original owner of my '69.
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Here is a better pic of the gold vette

Pantera

12-04-2003, 04:32 AM

Yes that is the same car. here is a pic of it on E-bay

sixtiesmuscle

12-04-2003, 01:34 PM

Could you clarify what you mean by both cars were "brought to Joel" to make Phase III cars. Were they sold originally by Baldwin Auto Co. as Motion converted cars, or, sold as 427 cars somewhere else, and, had body mods later by Joel?

Pantera

12-04-2003, 03:50 PM

The info I got was that the '69 gold car was ordered new by Mike Taylor as a 435hp car from a PA dealer and then later taken to Joel to be converted to phase III. Then when he got it back home, one of his teammates saw it & he wanted one too. So, Mike then took him to see Joel and he bought the orange/black genuine Baldwin NY auto show '69 that was Joel's personal car and later had it painted Black w/Gold stripe. I think black/gold was the Steelers colors? That was a true Baldwin Phase III car and the one that I now own. I just don't have the guys name that bought it.

I sure hope the story is true as it makes sense why my car wound up in Dallas. If he got traded to Dallas he would have to sell it or have it painted Blue/silver or else they might have burned it to the ground.

I sure wish I could find any info on this. It would be good news for both of us as we can trace down the original owners of both cars.

JoeC

12-04-2003, 04:04 PM

Larry,
Check the Steelers web site. Maybe some one can narrow down a list of names for you. Original owner of one of my cars played for Denver Broncos in 1967. I found the guy in the team picture on the web site. I also found him on a football card and bought his card and had him autograpgh it. He only played for a couple of years but said he gets cards in the mail every year from people asking him to autograpgh them. My point is that if he was a pro football player, you should be able to find something on him.

COPO

12-04-2003, 09:32 PM

I believe when the car was for sale on Ebay, it was mentioned that is was purchased new at Reedman Chev.

69motionvet

12-04-2003, 09:42 PM

The car was purchased, by the second owner, from Emmerich Chevrolet in Pennsylvania. The second owner purchased the car with about 1500 miles on it. The dealership that it was originally ordered from or through at this time is still unknown.

Pantera

12-04-2003, 11:38 PM

JoeC

The problem I have... is I don't know the name of the player. He was just a friend of Big Mike Taylor. So unless I can locate him and see if he has any memories of the two cars or even better yet has some pic's from back then, I am just at a standstill.

He was drafted in '68 from USC in California and I understand that he is back there now and in the BB-Q business. So unless somebody in Calif has knowledge of how to find this guy? then I am at a deadend.

Thanks for trying to help. This is sure a great place to hang around.
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Born30YrsLate

12-05-2003, 12:02 AM

Larry - this link may help.... USC Football Draft History (http://www.drafthistory.com/colleges/u.html)

GMC_Typhoon

12-05-2003, 06:35 AM

[ QUOTE ]
JoeC

The problem I have... is I don't know the name of the player. He was just a friend of Big Mike Taylor. So unless I can locate him and see if he has any memories of the two cars or even better yet has some pic's from back then, I am just at a standstill.

He was drafted in '68 from USC in California and I understand that he is back there now and in the BB-Q business. So unless somebody in Calif has knowledge of how to find this guy? then I am at a deadend.

Thanks for trying to help. This is sure a great place to hang around.
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There is only one guy that comes to my mind Preston Pearson (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/PearPr00.htm)
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COPO

12-05-2003, 03:56 PM

Here is the link when the car was on Ebay with a number of pictures. Neat car. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6168&item=24317147 99

Pantera

12-06-2003, 12:07 AM

here is a '69 Camaro he also has for sale now,,,, Looks like a Z-28

Dave Rifkin

12-06-2003, 04:21 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6161&item=24471199 31

Pantera

12-06-2003, 09:04 PM

Thanks for the link I must have been really sleepy when I posted it. I remember puting the link in but for some reason it didn't come through.
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Pantera

12-06-2003, 11:28 PM

Well I just got off the phone with Preston Pearson and he said he never owned a Corvette. Heck he didn't even remember playing for the steelers much...

Oh well' one more down.

Thanks for trying..... Looks like it's back to square one.

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Phase3GT

12-08-2003, 10:39 PM

If the gold P3GT in question is the one previously for sale on ebay, then that car was last owned by John Murphy out of PA. I had a great conversaton with John regarding the history of the car but ownership was not discussed prior to his brother owning the car through the early 70's.

69motionvet

12-09-2003, 03:28 PM

hi yes john murphy is the owner of the car . i am doing the paint work, and the detail work on the car. and i will be selling the car for him when it is done.

69motionvet

01-18-2004, 01:07 AM

Hi Super Car Fans - Wanted to share pictures of the vet repainted to Motion Gold. I'm sure you'll agree the car looks beautiful! This photo shows the car right out of the booth - not even sanded or buffed yet. I'll post another photo after its all back together.
George

Mr. T

01-18-2004, 03:30 AM

Now that is an awesome sight! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Pantera

01-19-2004, 12:09 AM

The "other" Gold/Black car is not the same car. It was not a Baldwin Car but came from a dealer in the upper mid west as a 435hp car and then taken to Joel to be converted. That would make it a "motion" modified and not a "Baldwin Motion" built car like my '70. Perhaps when my car is finished someday and I get to show it someone will come up with the rest of the story.

69motion

02-11-2004, 12:06 AM

i own the 1969 motion vet bought by mike taylor of the pittsburg steelers it is gold with a black stripe it was a orig 435 hp alum head car i have full docs on this car i have the name of the other player but im still trying to find the car you understand ill keepyou all posted thanks jeff http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

Pantera

02-11-2004, 02:04 AM

Don't bother looking for the '69 as it is setting in my garage along with my white '70 Baldwin car. Have you been able to locate Mike Taylor?

sixtiesmuscle

02-11-2004, 04:26 AM

Are there two people claiming to own the same car here? Is there some dispute over which is the "real" gold/black Baldwin Motion Vette?

55chevy

02-11-2004, 07:08 AM

Two different cars. Pantara owns the 1st Phase III GT made. Original Monoco Orange/black stripe car (non-headlight/tail panel conversion car).. Supposedly bought by a Pittsburg Steeler (not sure which one) and repainted black/gold..

69Motions car is a later car than Pantaras and has the full Phase III GT headlight/tail panel conversion and also has the side pillar scoops. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

Perhaps Larry and 69Motion can throw up some pics of their cars to end the confusion. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Pantera

02-11-2004, 03:40 PM

I am sure that this is confusing to everybody. There were two Gold with a black stripe Motion vetts made. One was a non Baldwin car and the other was a documented Baldwin car. The confusion is that both of them are registered on this forum with almost the same nickname when they are on here. 69motionvet is George, the owner of the Baldwin car and you can go back and see pic of it when it was on Ebay and was red w/silver stripes. 69motion is Jeff, the owner of the Motion vette that I have been searching for and just as soon as we can we will both share the history of our cars with everybody. We talked last night and can now have a place to start on the history of our cars. Trust me there will be more just as soon as we can be sure of the facts.

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69motionvet

02-23-2004, 09:07 PM

Thought everyone would enjoy seeing a few updated photos of the gold Phase III GT. Its almost finished and ready for sale!
George

69motionvet

02-23-2004, 09:09 PM

Heres the second photo of the car.
George

Pantera

02-23-2004, 11:37 PM

Boy is that looking good. I can't wait to get to see it in person.

I sure wish my powerball lottery ticket would hit I would love to have that in my garage.

69motionvet

02-23-2004, 11:45 PM

Hey Larry - Thanks for your posting. We're thinking of taking the car to the Chevy show in Hampton VA in July. If you're going lets get together!

55chevy

02-24-2004, 12:24 AM

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I sure wish my powerball lottery ticket would hit I would love to have that in my garage.

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What's the matter Larry?? 2 ain't enough? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I have room in MY garage for that white and gold one if you need some room over there http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

35th02SS

02-27-2004, 01:21 PM

George that car is awesome. Can't wait to see it this summer in Hampton. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

69motionvet

03-01-2004, 09:39 PM

Hey Super Car Fans..Well the Motion vet is finally finished.
I'm going to post several photos that I took of the car today (3/1/04). After the magazines come to do their feature stories I'll post the car in the for sale section.
George
914 523 8689

69motionvet

03-01-2004, 09:41 PM

1969 Gold Motion Vet - It was a real pleasure working on this car.

69motionvet

03-01-2004, 09:42 PM

1969 documented Motion corvette. Car has its original, matching number, 427/435 engine.

69motionvet

03-01-2004, 09:43 PM

1969 Motion vet

69motionvet

03-01-2004, 09:45 PM

More photos

69motionvet

03-01-2004, 09:46 PM

Another Motion vet pic from today

jfkheat

03-02-2004, 12:23 AM

Great looking car. I want one.
James

Mr. T

03-02-2004, 01:10 AM

Love all the pictures, what an awesome looking car! I espcially like the picture of the B/M Vette from the rear, what a mean look! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

Fhakya

03-02-2004, 01:37 AM

Stellar looking car! Just to clarify & keep my info in order..this is the same red/silver one that was offered through Kruse 9/03 right? (See attached pic). Here was the Kruse info posted:
Auburn, IN
Aug 27 - Sep 2, 2003

According to Baldwin Motion Performance, only twelve 1969 Corvettes were modified with Phase III performance parts. Only four are known to survive today. This car was originally shipped from Baldwin Chevrolet/Motion Performance in Baldwin New York to Emerich Chevrolet in Pennsylvania. A sworn Affidavit of Authenticity accompanies the sale of this car with a VIN of 194379S725819. The car is now Red with a Silver striping. It was originally Daytona Yellow with a Black stripe. Otherwise, the car is totally original with 45,600 verified miles. The ultimate muscle car is sharp looking with all of the Phase III modifications and parts. The original 427ci V8 rated at 435 HP and 460 Foot-pounds of torque was modified by Baldwin Motion to produce 640 HP with an Edelbrock intake manifold and an 850 Holley carburetor. This is a very rare and unique Corvette that will fly down the road; truly a valuable piece of American automobile history.

* ENGINE - V-8 427
* TRANS TYPE - MANUAL
* EXT COLOR - RED
* INT COLOR - BLACK

Just trying to keep my info straight.

69motionvet

03-02-2004, 12:38 PM

This was the red/silver car that was on the auction block at auburn as well as on ebay. The car was pulled from the ebay auction pending documentation from Mr Joel Rosen. Once
we started to really research and find out about what car this was under that red paint we set out to find out as much information as possible. Together with the owners we decided the car needed to be restored to the motion gold.
The affadavit of authenticity from the second owner even states the car was gold when he bought it with 1500 miles.
Amazingly enough the car has only changed hands four times and has been in the same family since 1971.

Blue_SS427

03-16-2004, 02:41 AM

I just got some new magazines in and on the cover of this Speed and Supercar from 1970 is a Vette that looks an awful lot like the car in those photos. Could it be the same car?

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Pantera

03-16-2004, 04:33 AM

Yep that would be it... Sure looks good doesnt' it?

69motionvet

03-16-2004, 04:55 AM

As Pantera said....its the same car!

In fact that particular issue of Speed and Supercar has a picture of Joel Rosen driving "our" vet in one of the inside photos! I recently won an ebay auction for the same magazine.

I've been told the car was in other magazines back then. If anyone has any of these and they'd be willing to part with them please let me know. Even if you aren't interested in selling I would appreicate it if you would just let me know the name of the magazine and date of the issue.