What's wrong with this car?

[juliosz]

Saw this on ebay. Looks to be a decent ride, no mention of being a clone. 9k seems to be pretty light if it's a real Z.

68 Z on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2466007731&category=61 61)

[Belair62]

Looks like another scam....stay clear

[Astock]

Scam. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif

[John Brown]

9G's is too cheap if its a clone on a six cylinder body.

Scam........ http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[jbsides]

Another one... '69 Z (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2466092587)

[Belair62]

How do you turn them in to ebay ?

[jbsides]

We all know the pictures of these cars have been swiped off of other auctions, websites, etc, and legitimate ePay members ID's hacked. How do you convince ePay these are scam auctions. They are a cash generation oriented auction site primarily interested in the fees these sales generate, scam or not. What proof would you offer them?
The only thing I can think of doing is to contact the hackee, and have them complain to ePay it is not their auction...

JB

[jfkheat]

I don't think emailing the hackee will work. When these guys gain access to someone elses Ebay account, I would think they change their contact info. Since all these scam auctions require pre approval to bid, potential bidders would have to email the seller for approval. The hackers would have to change the hackee's email address.
James

[jbsides]

You are probably correct, James. I think I will just go ahead and email both of these clowns to see what kind of response I get. Something to the effect of "Hi, I'm new to muscle cars and really like your Camaro."
What do you think?

JB

[Jim Mulvey]

I will reiterate what the others have said: Scam, stay Clear!! . If you do e-mail them make sure it is with a clean e-mail address, no personal info that could be found out with your account. They are resourceful and I would not want any of my personal info in their dirty hands. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[jfkheat]

Judging by what I've heard and read about these scams, I don't think I would email them. Several people have said that they start getting lots of spam after emailing these people. Everyone that emails about these cars theel the same story. The car belongs to their brother and is in Germany or Portugal. You send the guy a $3000 deposit and they will ship the car to you free. You can check the car out before sending the rest of the money. I think the reason for having to be pre approved it so everyone that emails will be offered the car. Of the hundreds of email they probably get they may have a few that actually fall for the story and send the $3000 deposit. From what I have read about these scams, they originate in Nigeria.
James

[4MyChevelles]

Thats pretty nuts...did you look at the sellers other items 9.00 dolls or 5.00 stamps How does this scam work now they steal pictures from other people get into your ebay account and talk people into sending money without seeing the car ?
thats pretty scary

[jbsides]

Both auctions have been pulled with no record now available. I would believe it to be more a hit-and-run by
the scammer than being caught up to by ePay or the hackees...

JB

[juliosz]

Funny...a buddy of mine who's been looking for a 68 Z called me and told me about this car about a week ago. I looked and looked, found no trace of this car on ebay. I told him he's seeing things and poof, it re-surfaced. I thought that even if you pulled an item early it would still show up in "completed items". http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[juliosz]

Really weird...Just looked on ebay, buy it now price has been dropped to 6k. When you click on this item in the list you get an invalid item message. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif