NEW ARRIVAL-69 NOVA L-78 4 speed with 7,000 miles

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Harvest Gold 1969 SS-396 NOVA= 375 hp. four speed with only 7,000 mi on it. This is a real time capsule.

Owner died in '75, after pulling the motor out to hop up. Sat in storage ever since. Harvest Gold - rubber mats - no options. Has a few minor dings from something that can be fixed easy.

The seat and arm rests look like they have never been sat on. I have the build sheet showing L-78 and M-20 with the 0 having a line through it? Anybody know what that means. I take it to mean just 0 but the tranny is the correct one with the numbers still on it and it has a single ring around the input shaft. I thought the single ring was a close ratio and the double was a wide ratio? Of course I am getting old and have been too sleepy to look it up yet.

All glass shows the correct code for a 3-69 car and are good except for the WS.

Floors and door jams are stil not rusted out. Doors close easier than my Lexus does. This car is a real nice example of how they came from the factory. Floors are not rusted out and in fact only have a very few holes in them. drain plugs and mats were removed to keep it from rusting out. Still has the over spray on the tunnel where the shifter comes out.

It has some rust at the bottom of the front fenders about the size of a silver dollar. the rear wheel openings are gone though. The trunk still has its spackle paint though.

Here are a few pics to get the juces flowing and tomorrow afternoon I will post some more.

Pantera

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cowl plate

[Belair62]

Larry ,the line thru the zero just means zero I think...not sure how you spell it..... "ought"....Sorry I missed you on your breeze thru town...sick like a dog !!!

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Evans trunk sticker

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front seat

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side shot door opening

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More later

[Belair62]

P.....where is this car from ????

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Outside of Chicago somewhere .... This is what I was wanting to show you when I went through town yesterday. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

Sorry you were sick... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Belair62]

Yeah me too !!!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[sYc]

Hey Larry, I see you were able to sneak one past our guys in and around Chi-town. They must be losing their touch. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[Belair62]

He blew in like a Tulsa tornado and snatched it up....where was that dealer located Larry...

[68l30]

Looks like Earl Evans out of Painsville Ohio...Sold a few COPOs there also...Sponsered a slew of 69 Camaros under the name of Steppenwolf...Way Cool! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Steve

[hvychev]

Larry is secretive about the location where he got the car and I don't blame him. The Dealer was in Indiana. Larry was at my house on Wed night. He snuck back Thurs afternoon to the dealership to show me the car and it is cool. Needs some TLC but he will fix er up im sure. Cool thing was there was still the original orange overspray on the intake manifold from 1969! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Glad to meet you and your Friend Larry! I hope to see you at the Reunion in Sept! Mr. Clary you need to work on him to bring that Motion Vette for us to see! I think I laid the ground work but I need some help! I told him not to fix her up at all just show us the car in it's original state. I for one see to many restored cars. It would be neat to see a supercar in it's raw original form. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Belair62]

Thanks 68..thats what I was wondering because it didn't sound like a Chicago area dealer that i've heard of....neat find Larry...have fun !!!

[Mr70]

Congratulations Larry.This sounds like a very nice car. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Just a few questions:
*Shouldn't code 65 be Olympic Gold?
*Were you able to get the entire Smog System that came with this engine originaly?
*Relating to Marlins Dash Thread,what is yours plated like?
*What is the Rearend Ratio it was built with?
*Did it Come with YA SS wheels & redline Tires?
What an Awesome car,and when are you coming through the Chicago area again! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Rick

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You are right on the color I havn't learned them yet. Remember I am more a Vette guy.

I am still punchy from the fast trip with a 15 gal gas tank Pickup. (ugh) Man I think we must have stopped at every other gas station on the way back to OKLA.

I doubt that I will be back up in the Chicago area for a while. I have way too much work to get started on with these cars.

I plan to build on a "Charlie Lillard" size building on the back of my home to house my collection. It makes me nervious to have this many valuable cars and not be where they are stored. Not to mention that I can't work on them neary as offten as I want to when they are across town.

Ed - 55 chev is comming over today and I will be doing a inventory of just what I have and don't have. I know the gas tank is gone. I got a extra trunk and new in the box bumper with it. I know the carb is not the correct one. Clutch and flywheel were not there either. There are 4 wheels so the spare is missing. The grill is not perfect and for some reason the headlight bezzels are not the same. One is chrome and the other is painted? Go figgure.

I do have the original motor, 4 speed with shifter, and they all have the proper S/N and part numbers still on them. I was realy lucky to have found the Broadcast sheet for this car that shows the L-78. It was a 3:36 posi rearend.

I will post some more pic of it for the enjoyment of those that are interested.

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Wheel

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interior

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last interior shot was not as good as it is in person. Looks like it has never been sat on.

this one comes out better.

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Ed (AKA 55chev) just left. I am sure he will have a thouht on this car to share. Thanks Ed...! Love that new car too.

We took out everything and sorted the little parts and took pic and wound up with these strange parts that we could not ID.

So here is a pic of them.

One is a ashtray but not for this car...
the other is two flat metal washers W/bend in them marked
"SI 3000-21"
2 strange alum panels with two screw holes each??
One flex hose flat looking and not very long
some kind of cork for a bottle? No brand name and we decided to forego the pic of the butt in the ashtray that has been there for quite a long time.

All the tires on this car are belted and not radials.

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Ed and I had a few questions about some of the parts.


The wheels are not all the same One is different (no Spare)=

T10 5 CL - on the (LR&LF&RR)
K19 1 23 XT - (RF)

Carb is the wrong one # 4781 263 W/180 size butterflys

Dist is 1111499

Smog filters (2)?? - 3287099 (Fisher corp 3/4") hose fittings.


head light bezel's are mismatched.

3914780 RH seems to be the original

39496003 LH is black and not the same as the other.

which one is the wrong one? I felt the RH one was the original bezell.

Thanks Ed for all your help.

More pic to come as time allows

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brake petals

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PIC of radio in dash

[Mr70]

Larry
Did you buy this from a Guy named Daryl here in Il.?

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Dash vin plate

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DS rear floor - no mats

[55chevy]

Yeah we had some fun today... gotta sort the pieces of the puzzle before you can begin thinking on where to start it. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif Tell you what, if I had the time and the money I'd have a '69 L78 Nova in my gargage.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

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Front seat - out of car

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Drivers side Interior shot

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Gas line and RF of frame

[Schonyenko2]

Larry, those two aluminum pieces hold down the rubber mat, or carpet in the backseat area. They go below the rear window side panels. Schonye

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RF supension

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Thanks I thought they must belong to the car but had not found the correct place where they went.

Thanks I bet you know the answer to my headlight bezell question too.

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I didn't know that chev wielded on the blocks till I saw this one. Just a small place and it would only make the head gasket seal a little better.

BTY this is the numbers matching block.

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Shifter Hole - note the condition of the paint around the hole.

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LS frame near clutch cross shaft

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Last pic today... Side shot. (this is the way I got it)

Some one in the past sprayed black paint on it to try to stop the surface rust. Sure makes it look like hell.

The Rear wheel wells are totally gone both sides. Only major rust in the whole car except for the spot on the trunks R lower corner and under the taillights.

I really hate to have to change the entire quarter panel. Thinking about scabing in a repair just big enought to eliminate the rusted out area's.

Please share your thoughts on this with me. I would like to just repair the problems and repaint this car and keep it as close to a "surivor" as I can. There are just not very many cars like this around anymore and it would be a shame to over restore it. I am sure that there are those of you, that would like to see what one looks like from the factory and that has not been messed with any more than necessary.


Please feel free to voice your opinion on this subject.

Thanks guys for your interest and stay tuned for more to come...

[Mr70]

*1111499 Distributor=Used on 396/350HP w/Auto Trans.,& 396/375HP ALL cars & trans.Find the date code for years application.
*T10 5 CL rims=used on 1970-71 Camaro & Novas,looks like 1970 May date.
*K19 1 23 XT rims= used on 1969-71 Camaro & Novas,looks like 1969 jan.23rd date.
*I am not familiar with those headlamp bezel #'s,but 1970-71 Novas used #3949789 & 90 mate.I don't know if 1969 Novas shared them????
You have your work cut out for you in OKL.It really is a small World after all! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Nova Research Project]

Pantera;

I am glad you went for the car.

Bezel 3949603 is for a 68 and was removed from service parts in 11-68. Probably since it was superseeded by the new version used in 69. 3949604 was the RH side. I would like to get a picture of 3914780 and a double check of the part number since I can not find it anywhere.

Thanks,
Greg

[WILMASBOYL78]

Super!!!!!!! Congrats and good luck!!! Sent you a PM.

wilma http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

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3914780 RH bezell Back side shot

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front side of Headlight bezell

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JH Block numbers

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Trunk shot

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PIC - End of Drivers door while open

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Bottom of intake dated 3-9-69

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fuel pump with original gas line. Very rare...!!!! These are usually replaced with a chrome aftermarket unit. 5/16" size not 3/8"

(Thanks Ed (55chev)for holding this one for me)

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Opening in firewall behind LF lower fender????

What is this hole in the firewall for???

Obviously not factory but unless it was for better air flow into the interior I can see no reason to have it. In my opinion it would be dangerious to have there as engine heat and exaust would be pulled into the interior of the car. If I was doing the Tech at the races on this car he would have to block it off before I would let it race in case of a engine fire.

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Vin under heater outlet box

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DS door bolt on hinge (not wielded like later ones)

You would not beleive how new this door opens and closes with one finger. Just like a new car. It is impressive.!!!

The lock works like new too.

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Back side of radiator henge DS

[bkhpah]

Is there black out around the interior side door window frames on this car? We are just finishing an Olympic Gold 69 Nova SS. It had black out. I would love to see a pic of that area. Thanks..BKH

[Allen]

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front side of Headlight bezell

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That headlight bezel is a 68-only, non-SS part.

[Pantera]

I would say paint it black. These are black up to the door seals and then Olympic Gold on the rest of the inside of the door frame. It is black between the seal and the window glass. No gold shows near the window its self. Hope this is clear enough to understand.

It is too dark to get a good pic today but if you really need some pic's, then e-mail me and I will take some for you tomorrow.

[Pantera]

Thanks

I guess someone must have changed it at sometime or another.
I was just sure that, that one was the original and the black one was off some other car. I see that is just the oposite so I learn something else new. I have a lot to learn about these cars.

The trim on the LS just above the part in question is damaged and there is a very minor dent just to the outside the point of the fender so I was just too sure that it had been replaced. I guess perhaps it must be the original part.

I feel that the front fenders are original to the car.

Thanks for your help.

Pantera

[Nova Research Project]

The 69 AIM does not have that page to check the bezel number. The part listed in the 69 Parts and accessories book is 3914759 (LH) and 3914760 (RH) for 68 only. Could the 8 be a 6?

That opening in the cowl side is not factory. I wonder why it was cut out?

[bkhpah]

I would love to see some pic's of the black out on the door frame...BKH http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

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Pantera, nice find - good car. I wouldn't be too concerned about 'survivor' status, do a full frame off, and drive it like you stole it http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Schonyenko2]

After looking at your pictures, I tend to agree with Marlin on doing the frame off. You get into the, what do you change, and what do you try to save dilema.
The hole in the outer lobe of the firewall could be alot of things. It could have been a rust spot that they cut out to keep from spreading. They may have cut it out to get air in there for drying purposes, or they may have dropped something down the cowl, and just decided to hack it open to retrieve what they dropped. Some folks do crazy stuff. You might want to put on qtrs rather than scab on patches as I would think the outer wheelhouse may be rusted also. If you have rust under the tail light panel, you may need to replace that tail pan too. Overall she looks pretty nice. Those front frame mt bushings show me they were'nt kidding about the 7k miles. Schonye

[Pantera]

I am sure of the number. what do you think that is off of? I looked at all the later years and none has chrome around the light like this one. All of them were black next to the light???? Go figure...



The cut out looks like they were trying to get more air into the car under their feet. that would not be a good place to pull air into the car as you would get all the heat off the motor. I found header bolts so it may have had a set of tube headers at one time.

There is no stock exaust left anywhere. so he may have ran header mufflers straigh back underneath.

I will spot wield a patch back over it and thank goodness it will not ever show unless you are looking hard for it.
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[Allen]

[ QUOTE ]
I am sure of the number. what do you think that is off of? I looked at all the later years and none has chrome around the light like this one. All of them were black next to the light???? Go figure...


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That headlight bezel is from a '68 Nova, non-SS. For correctness, it is a one-year-only part. The 69 bezels had headlight aiming/adjustment slots in them and were black around the headlight.

The 70-72 were similar to the '69, but they also had a vertical rib down the middle of the hump.

[Pantera]

All you would have to do is open or close one of the doors and you would be a beleiver about the mileage. The bushings are a big giveaway as was the nylon detent on the drivers door lower hinge. Still looks new.

The hole is in front of the air vent inside the car so they would not have droped anything in there with out being able to take it out easyly.

They would have had to do it with the fender off too. ???

The wheel openings are just rusted off and the wheel house is still in good shape. They may have cut them to run bigger tires on the back and then didn't treat them to stop it from rusting.

I want to try to keep it as original as I can so I will try to find a donor car for the parts that I need. I will use a heavy rust preventer afterwards. The back could be fixed but I may go ahead and change the tail panel to make it stop the rust in that area.

This is next winters project, after I get the Motion vettes back on the road. So I have all summer to locate parts for it.

[Pantera]

The LF '69 Bezel that you just described sounds like the one that I have. Now I just need to find a RH one to match it.

Perhaps this car has had a RF fender changed at one time. the inner wheel wells look like new ones.

Thanks for the info.

[Mr70]

As I am absorbing more & more info about Novas as I can,I was under the impression that the early built Novas had their door hinges welded,and later was bolted.Is this true,and what are the ones on your Nova like?
Thanks.

[Allen]

I have a pair of correct '69 headlight bezels. Email me at: [email protected] if you are interested.

Click the link below to see them.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/37082814/123777130dJhDOY

Novas built from the 68 model year through December 1969 ('70 model) have bolt-on door hinges.

Based on my observations, Novas built from Jan. '70 forward have weld-on hinges.

[SS427]

[ QUOTE ]
....early built Novas had their door hinges welded,and later was bolted.Is this true,and what are the ones on your Nova like?
Thanks.

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Based on Larry's previous photos, his is bolt on.

[Allen]

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....early built Novas had their door hinges welded,and later was bolted.Is this true,and what are the ones on your Nova like?
Thanks.

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Based on Larry's previous photos, his is bolt on.

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'69 Novas should have bolt-on hinges.

[hvychev]

Larry listen to Marlin and Ken S as they have both restored Novas. I saw the car with my own eyes and if you want to do the car right it could use new quarters, tail pannel, and a rear deck lid. (which you were already lucky enough to have gotten with the car) http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

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Since the car needs a total repaint, probably a new tailpan, the front sub completely detailed, among other items that you will discover as you proceed, there is really no 'survivor' status left. The original drivetrain is great, and the interior is nice, but this car is not a survivor. I'd pull the 1/4's off, replace the outers, and brag about all the original items and hardware that you only have to clean up and reuse http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

BTW, love the color! No v/t, no moldings, XT's, 4sp, 731, when is my luck showing up = jealousy http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

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Man I only have one XT wheel on the car. It does have a small letter Goodyear G-70 white letter turned in on the RF. all the others seem to be 70 vintage wheels. I am hopeing for someone to need them and that they will have the wheels that I need to trade.

Of course I am planning on putting a set of Rallys on it so that I can have radials to show it off on the street once in a while. But, I do want to have the original wheels and hubcaps for big shows like SCR8 when I expect to have it finished and ready to show off.

I know the more I look at it the more that I find to like about it. Especially the Olympic Gold color. It is growing on me everyday.

I realize the survior part is long gone. The thing I find most important is that it is not a total clapped out shell. The floors and everything about it are showing so little damage I just hate to try to change out the Qtrs because the trunk is so nice inside.

I live a mile from where the Power Tour stops here in Tulsa this summer and I am sure that a couple of members of this forum will want to try to get a peek at it while they are in town.

By then I will know more about just which way I plan on doing the car. I am more of a go person than a "Show" person so I just may do a quality Day 2 on it. I think it would be fun to see it run down the strip once again. These cars were destined for that.

[Mr70]

Larry
As I told Darrel,I think your Olympic Gold Nova would stand out VERY well with Red Line tires on SS rims or even Mag Wheel covers. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Pantera]

No hubcaps for me. It will be hard to keep the pair of keystone front mags I have in storage, off it along with a pair of slicks on black rim's on the back.

Of course a set of Hooker headers would go nicely with the traction bars and air shocks that are already on the car.

Of course I was alway partial to American 200-S mags too. I also think a set of red lines would go good too.
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Damm you guys need to quit making me think about racing again.
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I have to put this baby in storage and forget about it in about a week and get cracking on the Motion cars.
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[bkhpah]

If CamaroJoe shows up tonight, I will have him take a few pics of the Olympic Gold Dana Nova with red lines...BKH

[427TJ]

My vote would be 15x4 and 15x7 Cragar S/S mags---as an extra set of wheels/tires to swap on once in a while, naturally. Cragars with redlines would look sweet too. So would body-color steel wheels with "COPO" caps. And, and, and...

[Chevy454]

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Damm you guys need to quit making me think about racing again. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif

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Umm...then you might not want to look at this month's feature car! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[Pantera]

See how you are..... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Now you make me look when I have been trying to not look at them because it makes me crazy...

I will just have to get the motor in this car and hear it run and then the forces will speak to me about what to do with it.

It may be haunted since the owner died in '75 before getting to race it again. he may haunt me till I take it through the gears at SCR8.

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More pic's

RS Rocker (Very solid)

Note the small rust out hole in bottom of the right front fender. About the size of a quarter.

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LS wheel opening

Boy does that look ugly..!

Previous owners sprayed it with red primer and then black spray can to stop surface rust.

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RR wheel opening

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Drivers floor

note the few small rust holes. this is not too bad compared to some I have seen.

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Rear tail panel rust out (left of center)

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Left end tail panel

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RS tail panel

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Under Pass side rear very little rust

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LF fender = Hole just a little larger than the size of a silver dollar.

Rocker is in same shape as the other side and very solid.

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hood

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LF headlight bezel (backside part #)

3949603

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DS interior window frame

Flat Black near the glass to the seal, with gold showing from the door seal to the outer edge of the door..

not a good pic needs more light.

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DS interior Vent window frame

Flat Black near the glass with the gold showing from the door seal to the outer edge of the door..

Sorry it is not a good pic - needs more light.

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Under side shot gas tank missing trunk area is really solid

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RR brake and springs (5 leaf) air shocks - traction bars

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Rear end - RS cover

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Rear end - LS housing

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trunk fit to back window - LS

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Trunk fit to back window - RS

[Pantera]

Looking down into the left rear wheel opening from the quarter window door panel opening. Inner wheel fenderwells are good.

the light that shows is where the outer lip is not touching the inner fenderwell because of the rust.

[camarojoe]

Here's a few pics to get your juices flowing, and take away any thoughts you may have had about NOT doing a full frame off on the car... 69 L78 Dana Nova... redlines and Radirs... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[camarojoe]

another.

[camarojoe]

another..

[shor]

That bucket has sat under some pretty impresive cars over the years

[camarojoe]

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That bucket has sat under some pretty impresive cars over the years

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Oops... my job as photographer was to "hide" the bucket... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[bkhpah]

That old bucket has just the right hight to eyeball the stance. Its seen a ton of tires..BKH

[Pantera]

Mine will look like that someday.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

I hope... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif


I just hope I can wait that long till it looks as nice as yours does!
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It may take a while as I need the following parts for my '69.

grill
suround trim over the headlights. headlight eyebrow bezels (3056)
hood lip molding
Nova emblem for RS of trunk
3949790 head light bezel RH.
Both rear quarters over the wheels
Rubber Mats both F & B
Door sill plates, Both
Starter
WS wipers and arms
Water Pump
1969 396 lower radiator hose - original GM part number 3947809


alt #1100837

fan spacer
Fuel pump -deuce number is 40726
Gas Tank complete with gauge
Exaust system complete from motor. (Have manifolds)
heat riser? or spacer and studs for manifolds
I have a nice condition 3914780 RH bezel for early 68 non SS car for sale/trade

I need three K19 1 23 XT rims = These were used on 1969-71 Camaro & Novas I have only one with a 1969 jan.23rd date.

I have 3 = T10 5 CL rims = used on 1970-71 Camaro & Novas, 1970 May date. to trade

also have a IF wheel to trade for a XT.

I am sure that I will come up with more parts as I go along.

Thanks for the encourgment with the great pic's. Of course you should be ashamed of yourself for tempting me to work on this car before I get the Motion Vettes done.
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[55chevy]

Larry, you sure you don't already have a set of XT's laying buried in a building somewhere?? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Pantera]

No, stock wheels were not anything of value back then so I only have Crager SS and American and Ansen wheels with a few factory mags thrown in for good measure.

I also have a small fortune in BBS modular and Jongblods with a couple of LOLA real Magnesium wheels thrown in. Real mag wheels are a pain in the ass to take care of. They oxidize easy. But boy are they light. I have a 15" wheel that is 17" wide and only weighs 2.5 lbs.

Here is what it goes on - Rear of course
Not me driving. before I bought the bodywork off this car for mine.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

After seeing the pics of the rear wheel lip area, I would not hesitate a second to pull those 1/4's, tailpanel and outer houses, and put NOS metal on there. Otherwise, you will chasing that rust forever. With NOS metal you never have to worry about the rust coming back. I'd repair the lower sections of the front fenders. Also, check the front leading edge of the hood, Novas are notorious for rusting from the inside out right above the hood lip molding.

I know it has 7k miles, but it's got 35 years of time - that's what's done the damage! Put new metal on that car, a total frame-off resto, and you've got an awesome car when you're done. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Love that color!!

[Pantera]

I hear what you are saying. It is just that is a huge job to change the qtrs. Where do they come apart at the roof line? Is the drip rail part of the roof sail panel? That looks like a hard place to change.

I will look it over and see if it is something I can do. I am one of those guys that likes to do everything on my cars. I was a body man at one time back in the '80's, but most of my experience is Vettes and not metal.

I will just have to figure out how it goes together. changing the tail panel will make it even easier to change the qtr's though.

This will be a labor of love so it can take as long as it takes to finish it as lond as the job looks "right" when it is finished.

I will check the hood too. Thanks for the encouragment.

Now all I have to do is find some NOS body panels.

[bkhpah]

Best of luck with the 68/69 parts. Very hard to find. The car looks as if it is worth the investment to me..BKH

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I'll back that up, definitely worth the investment of time and money to do the car right. Did I say I like that color?
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[TDW]

Pantera...I just went out to the old shed. I have a 3949790 RH bezel that has been hanging on the wall for 25 years. It is in pretty good shape. Not broken anywhere. I'd like to donate it to the cause. Send me an address.

[Pantera]

Thanks guys.

I hope some of the pic's were of use to you. Thanks for the encourgment. Comming from some of you guys on here sure makes me feel a bunch better. That was a lot of money to pay for a car that only cost $3,087 new...!...?????

Dam why didn't I buy one of those back then? Oh yea I remember why? I paid $1,150 for a '61 315hp FI, Black/red Close ratio, 4:56 posi, HD brake, HD supension, 30 gal tank, hardtop only, Dave Morgan backup Corvette. It was missing the injector but I found one for $125. It was quite a screamer back then.

Then got stupid and traded it for a '66 360 hp 396 Chevelle 4 speed. Wish I had that one back... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Here it is back then.

[Pantera]

You know when I first saw the pic of it I didn't like the color at all. Then the more I go out and look at it and open the doors and look at the "new" color that is in there still. It looks almost as good as the day it was painted.

To make a long story short this car is really growing on me. I was planing on just turning it to someone and make a few bucks but now that I am around it the ghost of the deal owner must be influencing me to make it proud once again.

Do you think a set of headers would hurt her? I think it would be neat to have a go at Rob and his Camaro with some street tires on this car.

It already has a Hurst and traction bars and air shocks. What is a little set of headers and a BIG Holley going to hurt? I may even still have a lakewood housing around somewhere.

Is that what you call Day 2?

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif


BTW:Did I say that I like the color too?
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gif

[Pantera]

Wow what a guy!!

Thanks I will send it your way. Do you have a use for the eary 68 one that I have? It is in nice shape just not for a SS car.

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

Thanks again
Pantera

[TDW]

No use for it. Mabey someone here can us it. Good luck with the project.

[Nova Research Project]

Pantera;

Take some encouragement from these Dream Car Garage Nova Quarter Replacement pictures (http://www.dreamcargarage.com/goodmark_nova/gallery/episode_5_goodmark_nova/index.htm) It will give you and idea about what it takes to replace and good reasons to do so.

[Schonyenko2]

For what its worth, those new goodmark qtrs are about as correct as you're going to find. They even have the correct telephone reciever stamp in the door jamb area. If you need to have NOS, nevermind. Schonye