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JRSully
04-19-2004, 03:49 AM
Does anyone have a humane way of removing a ignition/key cylinder from a 70 chev steering column ?, normally it is fairly easy, but this one has no keys, and no chrome collar on it, trying to get it out to replace it. Thanks
Pantera
04-19-2004, 06:13 AM
Are you saying the chrome ears are gone off the cyl? that is a common problem. Usually they try to steal the car by twisting it off which does nothing.
So to get it apart you have to understand that almost all of them pretty much come apart the same way. You only have to pull the wheel and the rest of the guts till you get down to where the lock cyl is.
before you get there, you will need a spring compressor to pull the safety clip off the grove in the shaft when you get to the lock plate that keeps the wheel from turning with the key off.
Once you get under the turn signal switch, you can get to the screw or clip that holds the lock cyl in the housing. Either drive a screwdriver up in the old cyl. Or you can also use a slide hammer with a large screw to screw into the old lock cyl and it will come out easy.
The later is the best way in my opinion. Just be sure that the lock cyl is ready to come out first.
If all else fails, then use a 1/2 drill and drill it.
good luck
Pantera
SuperNovaSS
04-19-2004, 06:35 AM
Now that was a complete answer! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
JRSully
04-19-2004, 10:41 PM
Thanks for the help. Sully
Not bad Pantera---You wouldn't happen to be related to the Panteri Family who boosted cars in Brooklyn-- http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
Pantera
04-21-2004, 12:42 AM
They could be distant relations...
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Actually, Pantera = FORD It is my screen name on the Valkyriders motorcycle forum. It was the first name I could come up with to use as a distincitive nickname.
I have a '73 blue Pantera, that I have owned and bought from the original owner in '76. In fact he was the owner of the tulsa dragstrip back about that time. It had 6,800 mi on it and wanted it out of the house because his 15 1/2 yr old son was taking it out on joy rides. He was afraid that he would have killed himself in it. I was more than glad to take it off his hands. I even got the window sticker with it. It has 20,000 mi on it now. Next to my motion cars that was the best $5,600 I spent.
Now back to the question on the collum repairs. I have fixed a bunch of broken steering collum's when someone tried to steal a vette. I ran a repair/Bodyshop for vettes back in 1979-87.
In fact doing that made me a bunch of money cause the people were scared that the thieves would come back and would sell me their car cheap just to get it gone before someone did steal it.
After you spend a afternoon in the hot summer working on one of these collums while still in the car, you get to where you know how to do that job in your sleep. Of course I can do it a lot easier than to tell someone how to do it. There are lots of little tricks/shortcuts to doing it.
The damm turn signal switch is a pain to work around, and it has to move out of the way to get to the bolts below it. This is pretty much the same procedure to tighten the ujoint when the Tilt collum is loose. This is a common problem on older 69 and up cars where the owner used the collum to pull their weight up when they get into or out of the car.
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Pantera
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They could be distant relations...
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif
Actually, Pantera = FORD It is my screen name on the Valkyriders motorcycle forum. It was the first name I could come up with to use as a distincitive nickname.
I knew that ---just didn't want to use your real name in case you were in the witness protection program http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif
It does get hot under that OKLAHOMA sun---Anyway just funnin---------Good tech info--- How's that Motion#1 GT Vette coming along???--Ed is not around, so I'LL ask ---Any progress photos to post--I for one would like to see any.-----------------Joe
Pantera
04-21-2004, 02:04 AM
I hate to report that between the search for 1st owners of both Motions and then the L-78 Nova and the plemminary work on building a new garage, have taken too much time. I am just now starting to collect all the parts that I need to put it back together. Of course the weather has not been conductive to working on a car. I am going to try to have most of the work done on the car by the time the Power Tour comes through.
I thought that I had bought a set of Alum heads for the 70 and now can't find them or else someone got off with them when I moved to the new house years ago.
I have too much "stuff" hidden away planning to sell them someday. This was my retirement fund and I guess it is time to divest myself of a lot of this stuff.
I finally found the guy that I thought was the first owner. of the orange 69. He did buy one from a dealer in Phily and have Joel do a job on it. It turned out not to be a Baldwin car and in fact was a orange '68. Of course he sold it years ago and has not Idea where it went or to who?
The good news is that I did find the original owner of the '70 BM white/gold car. He was 18 when he got it. I am going to try to have him at SCR8 when the car is ready to show. I am about to go crazy waiting for him to find any old pic of it back then.
I am also trying to get any old pic's from all my old friends from back years ago when I was autocrossing both of them. After a while, I got to be a good enought of a driver that I didn't need their HP to win class. Sometimes I would even win FTD and could just use a stock L-82 off the lot. So they just went downhill sitting, cause I was afraid that someone would steal one of them.
Just today I chased another deadend lead on a orange car only to find it didn't pan out. It was just a Motion car and was not mine for sure. (Wrong headlights) Original owner and he is looking for his old car to try to buy it back.
So I have been busy but not the way I should but that will change now that the weather is better.
I have got to get a 4 post, car lift or two, so that I can get some room to work. I should not have bought the Nova but something like that doesn't come along often and I don't regret buying it.
I will post some pic's once I get to the back of the building and get these cars where I can finally work on them.
budnate
04-21-2004, 03:03 AM
Pantera I must have been asleep at the wheel this is the first I time have heard about the Pantera! I have a real desire for one of them, how about some pics, dont tell me it is a blue one.
Bud.
Pantera
04-21-2004, 03:50 AM
I don't have too many of it as we took polarids back then and they told us they would last forever and the sun bleached them out and the ole lady threw them out long ago.
Pantera
04-21-2004, 03:58 AM
autocrossing and pulling 1-G on a skid pad. The black Motion pulled .978 in second place behind it.
Pantera
04-21-2004, 04:05 AM
Or would you perfer a Yellow one? 1972 but I sold it years ago. I have also had a silver one and a bronze one.
budnate
04-21-2004, 07:24 AM
Geez your killing me here, Someday if I hit the big time it will be one of those or one of the new GT's. Wanna trade for a garage full of crap???
Bud.
Pantera
04-21-2004, 06:34 PM
Sorry but I have 5 of them now. (Garages full of Crap that is) I plan on spending the next 4or5 years selling this stuff off. Perhaps I will get lucky and have enough to retire on after I do.
First off I am just starting to inventory everything. It is a real learning experience just being on here.
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