67 Z28 Help!!

[PPPJJJFFF]

I've come across a 1967 Z28 Camaro when traveling last month. 75,000 original mile car. Original owner owns the car. Has original window sticker. Some changes made. Not original 4 speed shifter, non-original intake, Car on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being best is a 5. Trying to value now and what a prestine car would be worth. Any help would be appreciated. Patrick

[firstgenaddict]

Original paint? Interior? If so what condition?
Smog equipment? shifter? Is it a cowl plenumn(sp) car? Factory headers?
Are all of the modifications easily changeable? ie. were the floors cut up, fenders flared, etc.

[JChlupsa]

Whats the Cowl Tag/VIN info.

Any pics of the car and any other paperwork/POP

[PPPJJJFFF]

The car is in storage in another state. I saw it briefly when traveling. I don't have vin information yet. I was told it has the factory exhaust but their not headers. I'm not a Chevy guy and I saw the car for 5 minutes. Original engine,minus intake, correct carb tranny and rear are original. I'll get more facts at a later date. For now I need to know a range of what a 67Z is worth in restorable condition. I know that this is a loaded question but these are the facts I have at this time. No other body or interior modifications. Paint is chipped and weather but not rusted. Interior is worn from 35 years of use and 75,000 miles. Floors and frame are solid. The car has never been offered for sale, so I don't believe many people know about it. Patrick

[Jeff H]

Assuming it has the original drivetrain, it sounds like the car might be worth $20-35K as it sits and it will probably take $25-45K to restore to top condition. That's a pretty big range, but the hard part is the fact that there aren't many available so some people might pay more than other people. But let other people add their thoughts, I'm basing my opinion on what I've seen.

[firstgenaddict]

I would agree ... based on the info provided. 25-35k is a good estimate. By the way what color is the ext? int?
Good colors will make it trade towards the upper end of the range.

[PPPJJJFFF]

I appreciate the info so far. If this was a car that was restored correctly to factory condition, could you help put a finashed value on the car, or what other 67Z'S are bringing. It's White with Black interior. Thanks, Patrick

[firstgenaddict]

What a restored 67 Z28 is worth? So few were made... So they rarely change hands. At Barrett Jackson or in the real world? JK
Could see one fetching 50-65k

[Denis]

"Zedder" here on this site has followed the 67Z market for years. His analysis of market values (taken from his website 67z28network.com) is quite accurate in my opinion:

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The Market for 2003: The collector car market in general was extremely strong in 2003 with prices reaching all time highs in many categories. Very few '67 Z's changed hands in 2003, however a number were advertised for sale at some pretty high numbers! On the lower end of the scale, project cars brought between $15,000 and $25,000 - I know of 3 that sold. One decent driver quality car with cowl plenum breather sold for $35,000 and a cross ram equipped number one car just sold for $75,000!!! (the cross ram set-up is worth $12,000-$15,000 alone). Those not selling include a pair of consecutive body numbered cars in number 2/3 condition asking over $125,000 for the pair; a number 1 show car asking $100,000, a fresh number 1 car with CE block at $70,000 plus, a strong number 2 RS asking $100,000, and another number 3/2 standard grille car asking $52,000. Personally, I see the market like this - Projects are in the $15,000 to $30,000 range; Drivers (number 3 cars) are in the $30,000 to $45,000 range; Number 2 cars are between $45,000 and $55,000; and Number 1, absolutely fresh and correct show cars are $55,000 - $65,000. Documentation and numbers matching motors appear to be more important today than they were a few years ago and can affect the value by as much as 30%. This may be due to the fact that more and more '67 Z's are being located and the registry now has 188 cars accounted for. Therefore, these cars aren't quite as difficult to find as they were 5 or 6 years ago when only 130 or so had been located. Buyers are now being a little more selective in their purchases - especially at the higher end of the market. Also, the number of fakes is increasing and buyers want some assurance that their potential investment is legit before they spend the kind of money that these cars are commanding. If you have any market input or want some help placing a value on your car (or parts) please feel free to contact me and I'll try and assist you.

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If the car is complete with original drivetrain, I could easily see it selling for $35K. Professionally and correctly restored, it could get $60-75K in today's market but I feel they're still undervalued and haven't trended up in value as much as the 1969 models. There are some parts that are very difficult and expensive to find such as: distributor, rally wheel trim rings, rally wheels, fan and fan clutch. Heads, intake, carb, shifter, alternator, and traction bar assembly are expensive but available.

If the car is anywhere near the Northwest, I'd be glad to inspect and authenticate it for you. If you want a real professional to inspect it, try Jerry MacNeish (http://www.z28camaro.com).

[Zedder]

Thanks Denis, I couldn't have said it any better myself http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif I agree, the market is moving up and $75K for a number 1 car is absolutley possible and something truly unique or outstanding would probably bring more...

[Zedder]

By the way PPPJJJFFF...look in the trunk, I think you'll find the distributor there http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Charley Lillard]

I believe a local 67 Z with a 68 engine and a crossram was advertised in Hemmings just sold for 70K.

[68TopStock]

This is good information, Denis and Mark know their stuff. If you are not a chevy guy, why are you interested? Thinking about flipping it?

[PPPJJJFFF]

I thank all who contributed to this thread. Your correct, them seem very knowledgable. When I said I'm not a Chevy guy, I was referring to having little knowledge of these cars. Doesn't mean I wouldn't own it if the deal was right. Patrick

[Zedder]

I've known about the car that Patrick is refering to in this thread for 5 or 6 years now. The owner of the car does not need the money and is in no panic to sell it. His mechanic contacts me from time-to-time asking what I think it is worth. He always wants $5,000 - $10,000 more than what the market is on the car at the time, so it never sells. I know of 2 others who have had the same experience as I have with the car. Maybe Patrick will get lucky this time and the car will "really" be available. Good luck! Let us know how you make out http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif