"smooth bottom" cowl induction air cleaner???

[Tommy_Mathison]

i just pulled out a "smooth bottom" cowl induction air cleaner and compared to to some of my service replacement ones and noticed that the air horn in in the wrong position. when sitting on my 69 z28, this air horn in at the 4 or 5 o'clock position. this is not right. all my others are opposite. any help?? thanks

[Tommy_Mathison]

any help would be apriciated........... thanks

[Mr70]

Can you post some pix?

[Supercar_Kid]

Hard to tell for sure w/o seeing some pics, but my guess is you're actually looking at the air cleaner base for a 67-8 small block Camaro. They were the same diameter as a '69 CI units and shared the similar "flat bottom" stamping, however the air snorkle is situated on the opposite side because of the 67-8 alternator orientation. These 67-8 air cleaners used a large diameter lid to create a closed element design, the 69 CI type used the 14" lid that sits inside the base. FYI, a 69 type CI flange and seal will actually fit right on the 67-8 base unit and can be used with the 14" lid and element, which could be cool if you were trying to retro fit a CI setup on a 67-8 Camaro, just a thought. Happy hunting for a 69 flat bottom, they're getting very rare and very expensive these days. Hope this helps.

[Tommy_Mathison]

here are 4 pics, on the left is a NOS 69 service replacement air cleaner (has been sandblasted) and on the right is the mystery flat bottom air cleaner that i am trying to identify. they are totally identical except for the position of the air horn and one on the right is a flat bottom and the left is not.

[Tommy_Mathison]

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last one... hope this helps.

[camarojoe]

I tend to agree with my brother, that "flat bottom" one is actually not a cowl induction air cleaner. Its a closed element pre-69 air cleaner with the cowl induction style lid. I got stung with one of these myself once, not realizing what it was until after I bought it. All CI air cleaners have the snorkel pointing towards the passenger side fenderwell when installed... what you have is an earlier non-CI, closed element air cleaner with the original lid swapped.