Opinions wanted...Would you pay?

[TDW]

A guy has a set of American TTD wheels for sale on Team Camaro site. Says they fit a 68 Z28. I email and ask if they have spacers. He says no, they bolt right on. He sends 3 pics. Now I believe all pics are of rear wheels. Look good in pics. I buy them. He ships to me. Open first one and find someone has taken a grinder to the spokes to get the clearance. I call him and tell him i wouldn't run these on a go cart. He says send back, he will refund my money. Cost me 105 to ship them back. He refuses to pay for shipping. Would you pay someone 105 to look at a set of junk wheels? Is this a case of buyer beware? Don't trust anyone that sells parts to tell the whole truth? Ask everyone you buy parts from if someone has done a hack job on the part? I just don't think I should pay the stinkin shipping on a set of junkers. Anybody?

[Belair62]

If they are REAL early D spokes they don't need grinding....how were they advertised ?

[Charley Lillard]

When you asked him if they needed spacers he should have said then that they had been ground on. I'm thinkin you are lucky he didn't just keep the wheels and your money. Was it just a little grinding that two People can argue about if it is safe or was it a bunch of grinding ?

[Mr70]

I think he should refund your full price paid,including shipping costs,regardless of who's at fault,if anyone even is.
Have you tried calling him on the telephone,or talk to him in person?
You might find him more lenient once you do.
In this day & age of the anonymous internet,a lot hide behind the Keyboard,and don't think it will go any farther then that.
If I sell something via the internet,I always contact the buyer once I know they took possesion,and ask them Flat out,"ARE YOU HAPPY WITH IT?"
If it's a reputable part,in reputable condition,& you're both reputable people,it should be amicable.

[TDW]

They were not advertised as early. I asked specificaly if they were. He did not know. I had a very knowlegable member here look at the pics. The member didn't see the grinding in the pics either. The seller said he didn't see the grinding. It is a lot of grinding. All the spokes have about a half inch ground off. Horrible job. If the seller didn't see it, I would have to classify him as legaly blind. I spoke to him on the phone. He said he will eat the shipping to me, but not the return shipping. Rick, that sounds like a good way to business. I wish all sellers were like that.

[Bill Pritchard]

Tony,

I know it's a bitter pill to swallow, but in this day & age of the internet and routine cross-country shipping, it's the cost of doing business http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif Remember, the seller has also spent $105 on shipping and is back to square one. If he was at all knowledgeable, he should have been able to see this grinding and should have informed you of it before any money changed hands. If he was just a dishonest jerk he would probably not even offer to refund your purchase price.

[olredalert]

Tony,

-------Not saying its right, but be thankful you dont own those chunks of aluminum. I hear stories all the time where sellers change thier phone numbers and simply become completely unresponsive. Im honestly surprized that he is going to do what he says hes going to. What a statement about the state of things!..........Bill S

[Pantera]

I would like to see you post this guys ebay name so some of the rest of us can be aware that he is not trustworthy.

Use the power of this forum to police these people that feel that they can get away with this.

I would suggest that you first give him the opportunity to do what is right and then post his information if he doesn't refund the rest of your money. He knew they were defective and should have advertised them correctly or else suffer to loose sales in the future.

It is amazing how the threat of exposure to his potential customers on a website can make someone reconsider his mistake.

What do you have to loose???? Worth a try.

Good Luck
Pantera

[Belair62]

I don't think the guy is totally doing you wrong....sounds like a reasonable return deal...wheels aren't cheap to ship....

[budnate]

Guys I want to drop in for a second, I have been trading online for a few years now, and what seem's to be the norm is you eat shipping back if you don't like the item, the seller has man'ed up and ate shipping on his end, It don't make it right, I will second the guy may be right on the edge of not being honest, be thankful he didn't tell you to go pound sand,eating a hundo has less after bite then a grand.

I had a similar experience on some supposedly perfect recovered seats, all I can add is make sure you ask very clear questions and get crystal clear answers and make sure you are looking at all the pictures required to make a high end purchase,

Bud.

[jg95z28]

The same thing happened to me. I posted that I was looking for parts on Team Camaro and this guy contacted me. Sent me photos, told me of the quality of his parts and even had his own website. When I finally got the parts (2 bumpers and misc.) I thought were a good deal, they were crap! I ended up using them, but they're barely presentable even on my kid's daily driver. In fact I even ended up ordering a repo front bumper from Ricks because the one I bought used, although straight, would need to be rechromed. (It looks like both bumpers got too close to someone who was sandblasting.)

I didn't try getting restitution and the guy stopped replying to my e-mails the day I received my parts. I'm treating it as a lesson learned, but I'm curious if it my be the same guy. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[DjD]

Al takes abuse of the TC classifides very serious. I strongly advise anyone having a run in with a seller there to contact him.

It's a bit different using the TC "Wanteds" and listing that you are looking for something. There's no control over who sees and contacts you. As the buyer you need to be extra careful. It can be a great tool if you keep your guard up.

[TDW]

Thanks everyone. I am still reading. Dennis, I left you a reply on TC...Tony

[Jeff H]

IMO any time an item is returned, both parties should handle the shipping. That's the way I've always handled it. I bought something that wasn't as described so he refunded my money and I paid to ship it back. I sold a cam I thought was new in the tube, but turned out to be used(I never opened it since it looked like it was still sealed) so I returned his money and he paid to ship it back.

[TDW]

Follow up..End of story....I sent the wheels back. Seller refunded price of wheels and cost of shipping them to me. I called him and explained my position that I did not think it was right for me to pay 105 to look at a set of bad wheels. He stated I wasn't buying new parts. I agreed with him, they were not new, but I also wasn't told they were hacked up. Long story short, he did agree to refund 50 bucks of my return shipping. That is better than nothing. Also, like some have said, I am lucky I didn't have to eat the whole deal. Thanks for listening....Tony

[TDW]

Better end of story...The seller has refunded all my money. Decent of him. I think he read this thread?..Thanks..Tony

[Bill Pritchard]

Excellent, Tony. A tip of the cap to the seller for doing the right thing http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif