'74 Z/28 on eBay!

[GOAT72]

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Even though I'm a Pontiac guy, I remember how badly I wanted a Z back in '74. I drove down to the Chevy dealer in my '68 GTO and tried to order one. I was told they didn't make 'em in '74... or '75... or '76.
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Anyway, it seems I musta missed one they made, because it's on eBay!
Darn! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
OK, you Heavy Chebbys... tell us Pontiak-kers if there was a'74 Z/28... or not! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
eBay '74 Z (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2487854967&catego ry=6161)

Thanks!
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[JChlupsa]

Yes you could get a Z/28 in 74. 75 and 76 No Z/28s those years, Returned Mid year 77 The stripes on the car on Ebay are wrong though.

http://www.nastyz28.com/camaro/camaro74.html

[427TJ]

I remember sitting in my high school library on rainy days and reading Hot Rod with my buds. I remember reading the ad for the '77 Z/28 and seeing the asterisk that said: "4-speed transmission not available in California", which was where I lived. That, plus the Z's WEAK horsepower rating was very depressing to us 14-year old car nuts.

[GTO_DON]

I believe there was 1 75 Z28 built. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/3gears.gifRead it somewhere years ago. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[Paul_S]

Yup, they made them. They're known as the last "real" Z. -or were for a while. Same engine and power rating as '73 (L-82), but was only available in 49 states. CA was stuck with the LM-1 I believe.

One '75 built? -Aahh...the only thing I ever heard of was basically a '74 with all the pollution crap and detuning needed to meet '75 specs built to see what it would do. It wasn't any better then the base engine. That was supposedly one of the reasons it was dropped.

'75 was another good one for fake Zs (among all the others). As a kid I would try and pic them out at shows. I still do, but I should mention that my neighbor would put Z emblems on any Camaro even if it was an SS. Why?, "it looks cool"

[Fhakya]

Yep, there was most definitely a '74 Z (as stated above). My 1st car was a 74 Camaro...and if it was a real Z, I'd probably still have it. Here's another currently on ebay. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2487728329&catego ry=6161)
This one also looks a little suspect (missing rear sway bar, wrong stripes etc etc). But, then again I personally think these stripes look nicer than the "mistake" decals that Chevy used in '74 anyways. And, the body tags on the '74 were very similar to the '73's and if it's a Norwood car will denote whether it's a Z on the tag.

On a side note, if you're interested in finding a particularily cool '74...look for one that had both the Z-28 package along with the "Type LT" package which deleted the Z stripes and left only the side and rear Z emblems w/ some LT badging on the side of the roof. Stealthier and without the gaudiness of the stripes.

-Mark Holman

[Paul_S]

Actually the Z stripes/decals were an option. Only about half the cars built had them. It was/is a love-hate thing with the stripes or they grew on you. Without the stripes, Z emblems were placed on the body. The LT option added a deluxe interior, some trim details (that could be ordered separately) and more sound deadening material. Here's a pic of a LT Z28 with stripes.

[Paul_S]

Here's the front. This is a low mile car that was being sold on-line.

[68z302]

Many moons ago when I lived at home my older brother had a '74 Z/28.
At the time he was working in downtown Vancouver & would take the bus as it was only a short ride & downtown parking costs are outragous!
I started taking his car & heading up the Squamish highway, It's a treacherous highway which is carved out of the side of some mountians with Howe Sound directly below it. (They changed the name to the 'Sea to Sky Highway' which goes to Whistler Mountian, very curvy.)
The car was a blast with the L82 4 speed http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif.
Come to think about it I don't think I ever told him http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
maybe one day I will http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Ahh, the good ol' days!

[GOAT72]

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Yup, they made them. They're known as the last "real" Z. -or were for a while. Same engine and power rating as '73 (L-82), but was only available in 49 states. CA was stuck with the LM-1 I believe.


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I can see the err of my post now... I was looking for a Z in the fall of '74, so the '75 models were now on the floor. This is why I ended-up buying a '75 T/A instead -- which I'm glad I did. It was a great car and very fun to drive.
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[GaryH]

I bought a new Z on Jan. 11 of 74. I sold it six months later for a 69 Vette. I still have the window sticker for it though. It was red with a white vinyl top and decals. Similar to the one pictured above. Cream color interior though. LT package 4 speed. Cool car. I saw it in 86. A girl owned it at the time. She had it parked in a Pizza Hut parking lot. I spoke to her briefly and she said it was drinking oil. I just chuckled. It used a qt every 500mi when it was new. The zone rep told me that was normal http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif. I have a saved search in Ebay for those. Maybe it will pop up and I can give the window sticker to the owner.

[RichSchmidt]

Yup,the 74 Z is for real.The 74 is an interesting car and I am a big fan of the 74 and have plans on owning one someday.The 74 was the last year for the early back window and the only "big bumper" camaro to have the early glass,as well as the only one made without a cat convertor.This makes it an easily distingushable 1 year only car.
My plans are to build a car that never was.I want to build a 1974 camaro SS 454 just as GM would have done it.My combo would be similar to how they built the 74SD 455 firebird formulas.I want the car as a driver so I dont want a raical hot rod anyway.My combo was to build a plain jane 74 with a rear spoiler and flat hood.The engine would be a low compression 454 built to 74 corvette specs,but of course I would blueprint it a bit for more power,and things like the cam might be substitued for something more modren,but it would be a smog era large oval port 454 with an iron intake and Qjet and manifold.It would have a super T10 4 speed and a 3.42 geared 10 bolt.I might add some afrtermarket internals to the rear to help it live with some hard driving,but nothing too trick.The chassis would have no real trick stuff.Maybe poly body mounts,and heavy duty aftermarket sway bars,springs and shocks,but no traction bars or frame connectors or anyting that would look not stock.The car would be detailed to look as if it was built at the factory and I would try to convert any details such as chalk marks or tags in a manner that might have been done had GM built the car using the special parts that this car would require.When it was done I would set it down on a set of slotted mags with 15x8's all around to give it a period correct look.The 74 is a one of a find year an I want one to make my one of a kind supercar.Dont let the "big bumper are worthless and ugly" crowd talk you out of buying one.A few years ago I saw a 74 Z in a garage under restoration.It was a blue car with white stripes on it,and was an L82 4 speed car.The car was rough,but seeing it parked nose into the garage with that flat rear glass totally sold me on owning one.If you want it,I say go for it.Good luck.

[mssl72]

I hope they're real. I've owned one for 24 years now. It's got just over 35k miles on it and has a turbo 400 with 3.73's. It's sort of a time capsule. I really haven't done that much to it since I bought it except detail the engine compartment. I tracked the 2 previous owners down to learn as much as I could about the car. The wheels and front tires were put on by the original owner. I asked the first owner about the paperwork that the car came with. He said it was all in the glove box when he sold it. The second owner told me that he threw it all out because it got wet when he was washing the car. If I could have reached through the phone and slapped him I would have. I never understood how or why he did that. The car originally came with the D88 stripe package. The original owner removed them and added the fender emblems. The nice part is that he was going to put them back on and he ordered a new kit which he still had along with 2 of the original wheels. I made a deal and left with the parts. The car needs paint now and I hope to get that done sometime in the near future. I think that I'll put the stripes back on the car so it'll be as new. According to the numbers that are available there were 128,798 1974 V8 Camaro's built. 13,802 were Z28's, 6,978 came with the D88 stripes. I think Paul S. still remembers how it went through the gears with the shift kit (1st owner installed). Here's how it sits today.
http://home.att.net/~mss427/1974Z.jpg

[GOAT72]

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I hope they're real. I've owned one for 24 years now. It's got just over 35k miles on it and has a turbo 400 with 3.73's.

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Mark,
That's one nice Z. It takes me back to my late-teens just looking at it!
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Now that I think about it I have seen these '74 Z/28s before, but I probably haven't spotted one in over a decade.

What color is the stripe package with the brown exterior? Is it white &amp; black?

I'd like to see it when you stripe it.
Do you drive this car daily?

Thanks for the photo!

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[Paul_S]

Brown? Actually the exterior color is Light Gold. It's a nice bright and clean looking gold in person. It doesn't always show correctly through a camera. This color was used in some of the Camaro brochures. Some other gm golds have more of a bronze look to them.

As for the stripes, there was only one kit. They were all the same color: black, red and blue on a white background. I read somewhere on-line that the white background was a mistake and it was supposed to be clear. I don't think that is true. It wouldn't show well on a dark car. I'm not saying I wouldn't like it, but I doubt GM wanted to hide the stripes on a dark colored car. Here is a close-up of a rear stripe from a car that was just on e-bay:

http://www.yenko.net/attachments/95716-4.jpg

[mssl72]

Goat72,
No, it's not my daily driver. I have a Honda Civic that does all that. I've only put 8,000 miles on the car in 24 years. If I was driving this daily in California, the odometer would have spun around a few times. It still has the original brake shoes in it. There was a brown metallic color for Camaros that year, code 59 and a bronze, code 66. My car is light gold metallic, code 53. As Paul said there was only 1 stripe kit and was had a 4 color scheme, red, white, blue and black. As you can see in the picture that Paul posted the stripes themselves and the "Z28" were in black on the white background. The numbers letters and the stripes were highlighted by red outlines. The outer most stripe at the edge of the decal is blue. It's looks darker in the photo than it actually is. Here's a picture of the NOS stripe. It's the part that goes on the rear spoiler. The backing paper makes it a little tough to see the colors real well, but you can see that the outer border is blue, then white, red, white and then the black for the main stripes.

http://home.att.net/~mss427/zstripes.JPG