69 Yenko Camaro Rallye Green

[mc25t190]

i am looking for a Rallye Green sYc 69 Camaro if anyone has a heads up.

[Racefan]

One in particular, or generically a RG car?

[mc25t190]

Preferably a rotisseried restored car, if not a good solid car with paperwork. Posted early thinking it might take a little while, but ready to move. Any leads appreciated.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Isn't the SuperCar Workshop restored, rally green 4speed car for sale at one of the dealers?

[Belair62]

Last I looked it was Private Collection...

[NovaMob03]

Worldwide still has the RG Yenko for sale & is asking $200K.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

This one?

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

?

[Belair62]

http://www.worldwidemusclecars.com/super/inventory_chevy.html

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Let's go Kevin, put your checkbook where your request is http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[mc25t190]

I thought the car had sold, talked to Brian and he said he had heard it was not for sale. I have had a family emergency and not been able to inquire. Once things get back to normal i'll try, which may be a while. Thanks for the info. I had forgotten about the car as Worldwide has had it a while. I saw it last year at the Forge show.

[70 ls6 convert]

how does the price go from 125 grand to 200 grand,i dont get it.

[rich p]

Same as an LS6 convert went from 150 to over 200

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[69_BM_LS7]

Hey Rich, then a month later goes from 200 to 300.

[rich p]

I have seen the Hemi Cuda jump from 200 to people getting 300 in six months. WOOW http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[NovaMob03]

Heard that the RG (Worldwide) Yenko Camaro was bid up to $215K @ Dallas Kruse auction. Not accepted by the owner & later sold for $225K. If this is true, it's probably the highest price paid for a '69 Yenko Camaro. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

[firstgenaddict]

Pics showed the car to be extremely nice. $225 nice? I don't know but lately it seems as though RG cars have jumped on the money.

[camarojoe]

I don't think its the color so much as it is the quality of the restoration that brought the money on this one... You'd be pretty hard pressed to find a better restored 69 Yenko camaro with a for sale sign on it.... not to say that Rally Green isn't cool, cuz it is! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[firstgenaddict]

Agreed I think that you would be hardpressed to find a nicer Yenko.

[Mr. T]

Apparantly the deal didn't go through for the 69 Ralley Green Yenko Camaro, since it is still for sale at WorldWide Musclecars.

[GTO_DON]

Its on EBAY now.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

[Mr. T]

Don,

Thanks for the headsup. Here is the Ebay link for the Yenko.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...713545&rd=1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6161&item=45137135 45&rd=1)

I am real curious if it will sell on Ebay, and if so, for how much. Buy it now option: 225K It's currently at 139K with 5 days to go.

[GTO_DON]

ID LIKE TO HAVE IT!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[69YENKO162]

Is this a #s match car??

[Belair62]

Pretty doubtful anyone would buy it on E-Bay...

[Mr. T]

I agree with you Belair, I have my doubts too. At the same time, it would have been nice to see the Yenko go to a good home. The bidding is up to 152k, and I don't think it will get near the 225k mark in the next 4 days. I think you would have to use the Buy it Now option to buy this car.

[69YENKO162]

I e-mail them they said it was the correct block but not the original.

[Jeff H]

Whoa, this Rally Green Yenko doesn't have the original motor? I thought it was all numbers matching. 150 is pretty strong for a non matching car, 225 is huge! Although it gets real hard to put realistic numbers on anything since that Hemi Cuda conv sold for 2M and a grilled cheese sold for 38K! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Belair62]

Jeff...what do you base your comments on ??? Why is 150 strong and 225 huge ??? There are COPO Camaros that have a higher asking price than 150 !

[Jeff H]

I'm saying that's a huge number IF it doesn't have the original motor. If it does have the original motor then I would say it's pretty close to what I would expect today. I understand it's a top notch restoration, but we all know this car was for sale for $150K barely a year ago by the same dealer so all of the sudden it's worth $225K and they haven't done a thing to it!!! $75K profit just because they currently own it, that's pretty steep. I'm all for high prices in hopes of not losing money on my JL8 car when it's done, but we have to get realistic with some of these prices. So does this car have it's original motor or not, that's the big money question I guess?

[John]

"matching numbers" .....
does not NECESSARILY MEAN ...."original motor" http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif
..
...it usually means "the motor that is now in the car has the correct casting and Date code for the car!
...but I have seen that car close up
and it is top notch http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Charley Lillard]

It does not have the orig engine block. A Yenko is a Yenko and kinda like ZL1's, having the orig. block does not seem to have much of a effect anymore. Value seems based on quality of car and colors, options, etc. I saw the car at Vettefest a couple years ago and it got me really liking Rally Green. I believe there are several real buyers out there that would drop 200K on it tomorrow but I don't think it will get it done.

[DaJudge]

Matching numbers in my book should mean the engine and drivetrain components that the car left the factory with. But people are deceiving potential buyers with calling a numbers matching car one with correct castings and codes and restamps http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif. Today you always have to ask what the sellers definition of numbers matching is. It sucks that you really need to read between the lines. Whenever I have talked to sellers that seem knowledgeable about a car they are advertising it's always real interesting when they all of a sudden get stupid when you start to ask hard questions.

[mhassett]

With only one Yenko for sale it would only take two serious buyers to cause a bidding war. If someone wants one bad enough they might have to pay the price. I remember a few years ago ZL-1's selling for 225,000.
Mark

[hugger_69]

There is no doubt in my mind that a Yenko should pull dollars in the 200 range if the car is real nice. The price of all Camaro models have jumped significantly in the past year, so much so that collectors and aficiandos are shelling out high dollars for concourse and rotisserie restored cars as well as survivors. I personally know of at least three high dollar Z/28's that have broken the 6 figure range in the past 12 months and there is no indication that prices will do anything other than climb in the years ahead.

Just look at what 25K buys you these days. Nothing! And when you look at the cost of buying an unrestored car, then tear it down to restore it properly, the costs of parts will just about kill you. So much so that you can easily spend 50K - 70K or more when restoring it to concourse condition. Its also wise to note that the prices of rare parts have also gone up in accordance with the cars as of late. It's only going to increase, and two years from now, maybe it will be the Yenko demanding the Zl-1 coin once again. GPerhaps that would put the ZL/1 value up there with the Hemi Cuda Vert?

Just my 2 bits!

[sYc]

Is 225 a realistic number for a '69 Yenko Camaro? I think so, when you look at some of the recent sales of restored Yenkos. Deuces in the 80+ range, Chevelles going for 150+ and a '69 Yenko Nova for 400. Part of this I think because it is easier to document a Yenko them some of the others.

And as Charley said, having the original engine or not really does not have that much effect on price. In part do to the fact that is is hard to detemine which parts are original and which ones are restamps (when done right).

[camarojoe]

Just wondering, I know this car was at SCR1 and SCR2, but I can't find any pictures of it on the SCR pages, or even any mention that it was there...I'm sure its just an oversight, but i just now realized its not listed there as being an attendee.

[Chevy454]

You're right, Joe! I thought it was some of the latter SCR's, though, not 1 or 2? But I've slept since then, so who knows!! That's Baker's car, right? I remember seeing it, but can't remember the year(s)...darn CRS! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif I know I've had it listed, but somewhere along the way it got dropped...so, someone set me straight on it's attendance and I'll get it updated...

[camarojoe]

It was definitely at SCR1, here's a pic of my bro standing in front of it... I also know it was at SCR2, not sure if it was at any others, maybe someone else remembers...hard to believe we've been to 7 of these already! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[hvychev]

How old was the kid there.....10 years old? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[camarojoe]

Old enough to change a water pump... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif j/k

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[hvychev]

http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[SS427]

"It was definitely at SCR1, here's a pic of my bro standing in front of it..."

Looks like Jim S. in the background. Seems at that time he was dreaming of the future that one day he would..............
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[rich p]

Any good color Non original motor Yenko Camaro's in the Jeff H price range please call me ASAP.
Copo Camaro have already sold for 185K and I have sold Yenko Camaro's in the 200's already. I had some clients very close to buying the Rallye green but didnt get the response back from them in time, or it would have been sold by now !! Like to see if it sells with private bidding( people like to see real bidding and not feel **$^&#)
Anybody selling ZL1's in the 300's again call me and it will get done for a good car. Some well know guys say they can get a GOOD(done) ZL1 for UNDER 400 and I have yet seen one produced.
Funny thing is the prices will be going up after BJ's and we will be laughing at these prices http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Steve Shauger]

Jeff, no one questioned your asking price/ best offer over 25K for the following ad you placed:

"Let me first say I'm not completely sure I want to sell these parts, but at this point it looks like the resto will take too long to finish due to financial situation. I will only sell the parts as a complete package. Here's what I have that I was planning on putting on my 69 Z28 JL8 car:

- GM crossram with fresh restored(by Holley) Holley 4295 carbs dated 69(I'll get the dates tonight but I think they're 981), wide base reproduction air cleaner, fuel lines, linkage, brackets, etc(missing throttle cable)
- original GM fiberglass crossram hood(it needed some repair and it might be repaired, I have to check with the shop)
- TI conversion setup(this is all the TI stuff where you use your original distributor, I don't have the 263 dist)
- original GM radio delete plate in mint condition
- original GM heater delete plates(includes 69 dash plate)
- custom made Stahl headers that look like original GM headers
- 4 new Minilite wheels which are hardened aluminum, not magnesium and have steel lug inserts, lugs and caps included
- 140 off road cam kit(looks like it's made by Crane, not NOS GM)
- 140 off road cam valve springs which are NOS GM
- NOS GM timing set

I'll try to get some pictures tonight of most of the parts. Taking offers over $25,000 so feel free to email, PM or call me with questions.
Jeff (609)530-9681"

I purchased a real JL8 Z for what your asking, and possibly you did as well (wow things have changed). The dynamic of the market is changing from month to month. Would you sell the above items below their market value ... obviously not and I would not question you on it. Why question the pricing of this Yenko...

[Jeff H]

[ QUOTE ]

I purchased a real JL8 Z for what your asking, and possibly you did as well (wow things have changed). The dynamic of the market is changing from month to month. Would you sell the above items below their market value ... obviously not and I would not question you on it. Why question the pricing of this Yenko...

[/ QUOTE ]

Steve, I'm not questioning the value of this particular Yenko, but I/we have not heard of a Yenko selling for anything in this price range. Now Rich P has just posted that he has sold a COPO for $185K and a Yenko for $200K so that helps to update all of us to what the market is doing. You guys said I was crazy when I referred to a Deuce selling for $100K range. I would bet you can't buy a restored Deuce for under $100K if COPOS and Yenko Camaros are selling for $185 and $200K. I'm not in the market for another car so I have no idea what the cars are really selling for. Rich, I (and I assume others) thank you for posting this updated information on the cars you have been dealing with. Personally, I'm still surprised how much all of these cars have jumped in price this year. Barrett Jackson should be a blast to watch next month! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[hugger_69]

I purchased a real JL8 Z for what your asking, and possibly you did as well (wow things have changed). The dynamic of the market is changing from month to month.

Steve,

Would that happen to be the Brown one that was listed on eBay about a year ago for just a few shorts days before ending early?

[Steve Shauger]

No, that was not my car. BTW I have never ended an auction early... Just for clarification.

[hugger_69]

No Steve,

I was asking if that was the one you had recently purchased as the asking price for it was about 28K and then it ended within 24 hours of it being listed. I presume someone bought it privately. Thought that might have been the one you bought.

[yenkoman]

Im sure you all know theres a rally green 69 sYc on ebay now right.oops its the 1 from the beginning of this thread from worldwide musclecar.Buy it now for $225.000

[resto4u]

It would be nice to see some documentation of cars selling at these prices. Some people in the hobby could over inflate actual selling prices, and then other buyers pay to much. But there are also the buyer who are willing to pay any price, even more than it's worth. To impress others for bragging rights. The market prices have jumped, from straight 6 cars,to super cars. Roger

[Chevy454]

Joe, you're right! I absolutely KNOW I've had Baker's name on the roll somewhere, and thought I listed it under Brian or Joe another year when Baker couldn't make it (or something like that)...but it's since vanished! If you can find out definitely it's years of attendance, I'll get it on there ASAP...

[Belair62]

Selling prices are really nobodies business...it's between the seller and the buyer whether they choose to make that info public

[NovaMob03]

Well, somebody thought that this Yenko was worth $186,702.09 which is still a pretty good price. Seems odd that the high bidders ID was kept private throughout the auction process.

[427TJ]

[ QUOTE ]
Seems odd that the high bidders ID was kept private throughout the auction process.

[/ QUOTE ]

They are kept private so no one gets to be known as "the dummy who bid that Yenko up to 186K on eBay." You know that's what would happen if that information was made public. Even if someone laid down the 225K for that (gorgeous) Yenko, there'd be guys mumbling about how 225K is "too much for that car." It's just the way some people are. I think someone else on this forum called the critics "chair throwers." Bidders ID's are kept secret so that they don't get hit by a chair.

If I had 225K in play money I'd be awfully tempted to jump on that RG Yenko. LOOKOUT!!! Man, that chair just missed knocking my head off!

Just kidding around a bit fellas. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

[Charley Lillard]

Somewhere there was a nitpicker babbling about the tape on the cowl seal. I went upstairs in my barn and found 5 cowl seals. Four are orig. and have the tape and one is repo and has no tape. http://www.yenko.net/attachments/112750-P1010051.JPG

[camarojoe]

Rob, it was at SCR1 and SCR2...and hopefully SCR8. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif

[Supercar_Kid]

Can anyone confirm the part# of the GM seal? Is it #3955231 GR.3.417 ? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[LVCamaro]

Looks right to me...

[Belair62]

Charley...do you have any NOS 4x4 springs that seems to be the rage on some of these restorations where the car is a foot higher than it's supposed to be ? The RG car was done RIGHT !!!

[Jeff H]

Well, I'm hearing of more COPO cars selling for $170-$185K recently so I would assume the Yenkos will be selling for more than that. I'm still kind of shocked that the COPOs have jumped that much since last year. I remember that Brown RS COPO that couldn't sell for $105K late last year. I can't remember all the details on that car but I thought it was original motor and documented. I'm now surprised this Yenko did not get up to $200K since that appears to be the going range. Barrett Jackson is gonna be fun to watch! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Steve Shauger]

I have seen a lot of restorations, what I look for in a restoration are cars that represent what was done on the assembly line. I see a lot of restorers that deviate from the factory processes for the wow factor, and a cleaner look. Each car restoration should be unique based on the what is found during the disassembly process .To me this is the most critical phase, without this information the car loses its true identity. Yes it require much time and become a tedious documetation process. Although these car were built on the assembly line they were not all built the same. There were many variables that caused this, such as; build date, supply shortages, vendor changes, assembly plants, to name a few. It seems that some restorers take the easy way out and produce generic cookie cutter restorations. As the say the devil is in the details

[Belair62]

Well said Steve...I have seen some flashy but low scoring restorations this past year....one set of pics I saw was an 8 year old resto and the damn thing STILL sat up 6 feet in the air...maybe they used NOS Hi Jackers or something http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[Mr70]

Part#3955231 was used on all cowl inducted cars.Camaros-Chevelles till 1972.Tape was the object of choice back then,not glue like today.
Bobby Knight wishes the private auctions would evaporate.
http://www.indystar.com/library/factfiles/people/k/knight_bob/knight-chair.jpg

[Belair62]

I guess they don't put tape on re-pops then huh !!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[camarojoe]

If you look at the pics of the 69 Yenko road test in the Super Stock article in the June 69 issue you can clearly see the tape seam, as well as bodycolor overspray on the top edge of the firewall (no taped edge)... even in a B&W photo shows this. The tape on the seal appears to be in the exact spot as on this Rally Green car. I would think photographs taken in 69 of a brand new car would be a good reference for the way a car should be properly restored if there were any doubts.

[Belair62]

There is a difference between correct restorations....and "pretty" restorations...depends on what you want to do with the car...judged shows or hot dog stand.

[SS427]

The cloth tape that was used can be replicated with a cloth tape that is available on the market today and it duplicates the originals exactly. Makes for a more complete restoration. "Details make the difference"

[Rat_Pack]

[ QUOTE ]
I guess they don't put tape on re-pops then huh !!!

[/ QUOTE ]

I just bought a new repro air cleaner kit from Goodmark and the seal has the correct cloth tape on the seam like original. It is not a cheap copy but identical to the original. Nothing like the black ductape used on that Yenko that is for sale. I will try and get a picture of it in the next day or so and post it...............RatPack...............

[Steve Shauger]

How many awards did the Rallye Green Yenko win?? I know it won a Gold Spinner...

[rich p]

I know of someone who turned down around 250-275 for his Yenko Camaro and I had an offer of 250 and turned down.
Told you buy before BJ's( for the guy who is REALLY looking to buy a car)
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[farone]

WHAT ALOT OF PEOPLE FAIL TO REALIZE, IS THAT THIS CAR WAS RESTORED NINE YEARS AGO... IT HAS GONE THRU A FEW OWNERS SINCE IT WAS DONE, AND PROBABLY NOT HAD THE CARE THAT IT SHOULD HAVE. IT IS REALLY DIFFICULT TO MAINTAIN THE NATURAL FINISHES ON METAL PARTS. (I GUESS THEY COULD HAVE USED OVER THE COUNTER METRIC BOLTS, AND HELP PACK FASTENERS LIKE I HAVE SEEN ON OTHER SO CALLED HIGH END RESTORATIONS) IT IS STILL FAR AHEAD OF WHAT ALOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOING TODAY.... CRY ABOUT A PIECE OF CLOTH TAPE ON THE COWL INDUCTION SEAL, PEOPLE STILL DON'T KNOW THAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THERE EVEN NOW. AND AGAIN THAT WAS NINE YEARS AGO. NOW THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN, GOODMARK SELLS ONE WITH TAPE, IT'S NOW CORRECT, AND WE'LL ACCEPT IT, BUT ITS THE WRONG TAPE. AGAIN NINE YEARS AGO!!! THE GUYS THAT DID THIS CAR ARE SECOND TO NONE, AND ARE IN IT FOR THE LOVE OF THE CARS AND THE HOBBY, NOT JUST TO LINE THEIR POCKETS, UNLIKE SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE. THE CAR IS A GREAT CAR, AND WHO WOULDN'T WANT IT IN THEIR GARAGE. I KNOW THAT I WOULDN'T MIND HAVING IT, EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT NEED A LITTLE SPANKING UP.

[Jeff H]

[ QUOTE ]
I know of someone who turned down around 250-275 for his Yenko Camaro and I had an offer of 250 and turned down.
Told you buy before BJ's( for the guy who is REALLY looking to buy a car)
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

Rich, were these Yenkos you're referring to be cars with the original matching #'s engine or NOM cars? Just curious if you don't mind me asking. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[camarojoe]

[ QUOTE ]
How many awards did the Rallye Green Yenko win?? I know it won a Gold Spinner...

[/ QUOTE ]

Not just a gold spinner, but Best of Show at Vettefest. I was looking at this website last night and found these pics by accident, pretty cool site if you've never been there before. The sound clips are cool too! Let the intro load for a neat photo of this car... you'll probably recognize more than a "few" other cars on that website too... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
69 RG yenko (http://www.gardnerexhaust.com/gardnermovie.html)

[Supercar_Kid]

I just found this in the "library." It's a copy of the January/February '99 issue of Camaro Enthusiast, a small United States Camaro Club publication. It's the happens to be the "Niagara Falls Convention Issue" featuring the RG Yenko in question. Attached is a pic of the cover.

[Supercar_Kid]

The article reads, "The car first time out scored a Gold with 984 points in the Trailered Dealer Modified Class. If you could have taken home any Camaro at the Niagara Falls convention the most likely candidate would have been this outstanding Rally Green Yenko." No mention of the cowl seal.

[Supercar_Kid]

"Gary Baker accepting his Best of Show Award with glee!" Let's give the guys at SCW a little credit here, for knowing their sh-t, then and now. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[Rat_Pack]

Bob, here is the picture I promised. To get the tape to show up I fiddled with the picture with Photoshop but you can see the correct texture and finish. It is a really nice repro from Goodmark..............RatPack.............