What do you think?

[MikeA]

What do you guys think? I am not a conspiracy person but….. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gifPentagon Attack (http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php#Main)

[bbdon]

I think that the people who put that page up are idiots.

[Jeff H]

So what are they actually implying? That the 757 was shot down somewhere else and another plane or missile hit the Pentagon? If so, where's the 757 then? What is their theory? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Belair62]

It sure makes you wonder if nothing else...the films of the actual impact sure don't look like a 757....I don't know what would happen to a 757 going 500+ mph but there should be something left i suppose...but if it was a smaller aircraft would it have made it that far thru the building ? and if it was a cruise missile or something what would be the purpose of covering it up ? arrrggghh I hate that conspiracy stuff...

[KNAPPY]

I think Michael Moore made this film! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bs.gif

[bbg]

If the photos posted are really from the pentagon, the photo of the hole in the wall is really round and small. Does make you wonder. I agree, there should be some sort of wreckage outside on the ground, or some damage on the exterior walls where the wings impacted. Hey, they covered up those aliens in 1947 at Roswell, and no one has ever seen what is hid on that big secret air base. Maybe that is where this 757 is --- http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

[whitetop]

To counter this stupid ass theory there 100's of civilians and pedestrians(and many people on the beltway who actually saw the plane hit the building. One taxi car driver actually saw the plane go over his car and hit a lamp post.

In terms of the wreckage why you saw none look at the pA wreckage site. The largestpiece was 1-2 inches.

On a aviation site plane designers said at that speed the wings would have disintagrated and would have been sucked in by the main body of the plane as it entered the building.

There was actually plane wreckage pulled from the building along with suitcases and personal effects.

[Belair62]

The aliens were later determined to be Charleys dogs that got out one night.

[Seattle Sam]

THis is sad, somepeople see a conspiracy in everything.

The plane full of fuel acted exactly like a missile. Just as the planes that hit the world trade center.

There was not any plane sticking out from those collisions either.

We have all seen cars involved in 100 MPH collisions, how much more destruction must occur at 500 MPH plus, tremendous speeds plus a huge mass, it's unimaginable because we don't have any experience to relate it to.

What an idiotic film, what the h**l do they think REALLY happened?

Where did the 757 go, the one that had people on their cell phones calling loved ones just before the crash?

....dumb asses.....

-Sam

[Belair62]

I think the plane is hidden behind the grassy knowl..or whatever the hell that grassy thing was

[CopoCrunkus]

Wasn't that the coach for the Steelers? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/haha.gif

[hvychev]

We never actually landed on the moon......it was done on a soundstage somewhere in Tulsa Ok. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/CharleySucks.gif

[BARN FIND]

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In terms of the wreckage why you saw none look at the pA wreckage site. The largest piece was 1-2 inches.

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I was going to bring up this same accident as an argument against the video.
A B757 is not really alot bigger than a B737 height wise (it may even be 20' from the bottom of the fuselage to the top), it is longer with alittle more wing. As for the question of blowing over vehicles on the road...that only happens in the movies. Next time you are at an airport look around, there are vehicles all over the place, sometimes during resurfacing the runways you will land right over them. Also, during landing is when the plane is all dirtied up with flaps, spoilers and landing gear is when you get the most wake turbulence which is what would flip things over but yet it does not at the airport. At 500mph you get vortices off the wings if you are directly behind them and for another aircraft this is bad because it changes the relative wind which screws with the lift that acts on the following aircraft, it would be sorta like trying to steer a boat along the edge of a waterfall. I am not an expert but I think that video is at best entertaining but still B.S.

[bbg]

Sorry Frank, but you are way off base. My granddad said the moon shots were filmed at night in the desert. As to the aliens I have it on good authority that ET was really the 3rd generation offspring of one of the surviving embryos that had been placed inside of a girafe for development. It started out as a movie, but he really did phone home and the shot at the end is really one of the mother ships taking him away. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif

[Paul_S]

Where does Alien Autopsy and Howard Hughes ET contacts come into play?


I'll repeat: The people that put that video together are idiots. I wonder if they're planning on leaving the country to not get caught in the flooding and ice age coming to NYC due to global warming?

[MikeA]

Like I said I am not a conspiracy person. I was confused about the lack of wreckage and was wondering if you guys could give some ideas about that.

[Canucklehead]

Does anybody here ever watch Mythbusters on the Discovery channel?. They did a test to see if a car can be "blown away" by jetwash, and they proved that it could'nt be done even at close range. However they did use a midsize car, and they did say it might be possible to blow a smaller car over. But a plane flying over a freeway?????, no way no how!!. As far as no plane wreckage, well a plane is really a fairly flimsy item in comparison to it's size, moving at 500m/hr it would most likely disinagrate on impact. Most airplane wrecks are the plane sliding on the ground and burning up. This honeycomb of aluminum slammed into several concrete walls, i would'nt expect there would be much left espeially when you add in the high temp fire all that fuel caused. Why would they say it was something else anyways?, what difference what it have made, alot of people died regardless and they're not coming back. I think crap like this is just a slap in the face, and they should be ashamed of themselves. It's proabaly made by the same morons that said the us did'nt land on the moon.

[GRB]

Yeah, and Son of Sam killed Kennedy. Anybody with the NTSB will tell you that when a thin skinned aluminum aircraft hits a solid object at 500+ mph there are only shards of debris left at the scene. Besides, one jet engine was found almost entact. This is an insult to the people that were actually in the Pentagon and lived through that hell. Just listen to what some of them have to say about this charade. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif I guess we can look for a Micheal Moore movie about it before the election!

[Belair62]

I don't believe it either but there sure are some weird things pointed out...I guess there are no studies of what an aircraft travelling that fast will do on impact.....Strange that the windows mentioned weren't broken and the "exit wound" of the building is so small and round....very strange.

[JoeG]

All the Planes crashed and all aboard lost their lives-----

I left on a flight from Newark , not too long ago,--and security has vastly improved over last year--- Several Professional type personnel were conducting scanning and searching---Everyone had to take their shoes off and send them thru the scanner, along with your other items and you would not get thru, if the scanner went off, until the source that tripped the alarm was verified .---I had to take my check in bag to the scanner myself---On the way back they went thru my luggage--took some time, but if it prevents another 9/11 --Search all you want---Hope they are steadfast to the task-- http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif

[Paul_S]

Well, there is nothing wrong with curiosity and asking questions. They should just use "all" the data to draw a conclusion.

As far as the impact, think of pushing a pen into a sheet of paper that your holding. Slowly and you'll distort the whole piece before the pen goes through. Now hold a sheet and give it a quick jab. A nice clean hole with minimal surrounding damage. Even take your BB-gun to your neighbors window. You can make a nice clean hole with a BB shot from a gun in the pane without cracking the glass. Now try using a hammer.

A plane wasn't meant to go through hard stuff so, it'll shatter, compress, breakdown -"get smaller" as it goes. Not a lot of strength, but a hell of a momentum.


*Not responsible for self-inflicted wounds or ticked-off neighbors http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gif.

[Belair62]

That is what's so weird about it...a BB hole puts a large bullseye on the other side of the glass....the physics of that crash must be hard to comprehend.

[JoeG]

Some more info--

[Belair62]

Excellent Joe....

[Canucklehead]

These people have nothing better to do with their time. What's their motive for doing this?, what do they hope to gain?. So what if they find out that it wasent a plane, people still died, dosent matter what killed them. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Seattle Sam]

It's all part of the government conspiracy for the Republicans to steal the election, and help the Israelis kill innocent Syrians and Iraquis.
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