View Full Version : ALARM SYSTEMS for Car Storage Building/Garage
mhassett
10-19-2004, 01:34 AM
Would Very Much APPRECIATE any help/suggestions on Alarm Systems/Set Ups. If any of you would rather "Private E-mail me with suggestions instead of Publicly posting (I understand) feel free to do so.
Much Thanks,
Mark
A problem that was hot and heavy back when--This photo and article are from '68 titled-"How to keep -"MIDNIGHT AUTO SUPPLY" from stealing your car"---- http://www.yenko.net/attachments/103042-midnight.jpg
mhassett
10-19-2004, 03:24 AM
One PLUS is that we built a Garage for my Cars right behind our house. When you look out the back windows of the house you can see the Garage--the bad thing is that the driveway that goes to it is out of view!! There are garage doors on all four sides!!! Appreciate any comments/suggestions that might help..
Mark
Contact ADT--Get a field rep to come out and hash out some ideas---------------
Belair62
10-19-2004, 04:27 AM
Agree Joe.....good system with plenty of options available...and pretty cheap too !
Zedder
10-19-2004, 05:14 AM
Mark, Joe and Belair are correct, ADT or another alarm company will assess your situation and provide suggestions. We did contacts on all doors, a motion detector, glass break sensor and separate siren all wired to the house key pad. I would also put in video surveilance and motion sensitive lighting if I had your collection. Video is super cheap now and definitely a deterent. I use it on all of our branch plants were we don't have 24 hour security on staff. Good luck!
Fasttoys1
10-19-2004, 07:40 AM
One key to remember is to insure you have multiple paths to the alarm monitor (or ADT etc.) and battery backup for all the devices. It is very easy to cut phone lines or power. If your defense/alarm system is dependant on these and they are cut, you are toast. I would also recommend a secondary system based on monitoring the cars themselves via motion detectors which uses a totally separate path. I had/have a multi channel RF system that ties into the monitor service as well as dials/pages me. Video is good if someone is watching or to identify the culprit after the fact, but by that time you can already be hosed.
mhassett
10-19-2004, 04:06 PM
We do have a SECURITY SYSTEM in the house--thinking about WireLess to the Garage?? Camera's??
Mark
resto4u
10-19-2004, 06:31 PM
I would us magnetic switches and infared motion detectors at all doors as two separate systems with battery backup. Also if you have garage door openers, have power cutoff switches. There are devices that crack garage door codes. Roger
csx289
10-20-2004, 08:15 AM
My buildings all have infared motions, glass break detectors on every window,magnetic door contacts, smoke detection, rate of rise heat sensors, inside and out sirens, strobes inside and out, security lights on at dusk, off at dawn, 24hr monitoring with call center/police, battery back up AND cell phone transmitting back up in case the phones are cut. Also just put in new security cameras that are able to be checked via the web from anywhere with a computer. Pretty neat. If you get a call, go to your computer and SEE who is there if anybody.
This is most likely overkill , but better safe than sorry! I figure the quicker you scare somebody out the better - before they get to any cars. For what it is worth, I also put Lexan sheets on both the outside and inside of all windows, plus the standard security bars. This keeps projectiles from breaking glass which could in turn hit a car.
I am sure (or sure hope) you live in a better neighborhood than my shop is in , so you could dial it back a bit. But all of it is relatively inexpensive and monitoring is $300/year - well worth it.
Good luck!
Colin
Pantera
10-20-2004, 07:13 PM
I might add that a good perimeter fence with gate alarms on them will also make it less attractive and anything that makes them take too much time will be a deterent.
Remember the Montoring people are not that reliable and by the time the police can finally arrive they may have done a lot of damage. Make it hard to get to the cars and then hard to get out of the area. A old beater of a car parked in front of the door just may save one of your cars from disapearing.
Something that you can do yourself and it is not expensive is X-10 remote devices. They have a complete line of devices that can work for you through your household wiring. I love the convience of some of them.
I have a switch near my favorite chair that will control the Celling fan on or off, the attic fan down the hall, a light over the couch that I cannot reach back far enought to operate all at the touch of a button.
I also have a time clock that controls devices all through the house that turn on and off at different times making the house look occupied when it is not. It is nice to come home to a lit house. You can also buy a computer controled interface that will operate tiny cameras and will turn on a vcr if anyone approches the house or your shop.
You could use something like this in your shop and if you have a old truck out front then they may think someone is in your shop when there really isn't. Anything that will slow the thief's down or deter them is worth any amount of money compared to the investment in your car.
Here is the web site to check it out. Be sure that you have lots of time to read all this as it will take you most of an evening to take it all in.
Warning!!! don't sign up for thier email offers or you will get so much crap it will piss you off. Their products are good and reliable and not expensive at all. Under $500 would put a hell of a good system on your home and shop. BTY: they also have a barking dog alarm you can put just inside your front door that is sound activated!!!
Neat stuff and it is sold by my alarm supply house here in Tulsa so it must be pretty good.
You can also find a ton of it on E-bay for sale.
X-10 homepage (http://www.x10.com/home/offer.cgi?!TMP18,../trafficmarketplaceTMP86b.htm?>tmp086)
Belair62
10-20-2004, 09:13 PM
Colin...just buy a watchdog from Charley...save you lots of $$$$
AutoInsane
10-21-2004, 06:24 PM
With the value of the cars we are talking about your garages should have sprinkler/ fire suppression systems. Remember a few years back when Reggie Jackson lost a garage full of treasure to a fire? A damn shame.
Sure the systems are expensive but if you lose a car to a fire there is most likely no saving it.
mhassett
10-22-2004, 03:55 PM
I want to THANK ALL of you that took the time to respond both Publicly and Privately on my Alarm Question. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif Just found out the other day that the Topic of Conversation among some Drug Addicts at our county Jail was My Car Collection!!! SYSTEM IS IN THE WORKS!!!!
Appreciate the Ideas,
Mark
Belair62
10-22-2004, 06:02 PM
Get insurance from Smith & Wesson.
MikeA
10-22-2004, 06:06 PM
This topic is very timely since I am finishing up a two-car garage. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Belair,
I hear Colt is a good insurance option, specially their ACP plan http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif
Mark
A friend of mine had some problems with criminal types approaching his Garage in the wee hours of the night.He recorded a Dog barking Ferociously,and hooked that recording up to an external MOTiON detector.He then posted this picture outside his 4 garage walls.
He sleeps soundly now.. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
http://www.desafio_jiu-jitsu_mar.blogger.com.br/Hooligan%20Pit%20Bull.jpg
hvychev
10-23-2004, 07:39 AM
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Get insurance from Smith & Wesson.
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Since I am back near the city again THAT is the insurance that I got. The dumb ass that tries to bust into my garage will have the worst day of his life.....
Belair62
10-23-2004, 06:01 PM
What the hell are you doing back in Berwyn ??? Stop in at Lalo's for a great Mexican meal !
Try "Trench Security Systems"-----
Stuart Adams
10-23-2004, 11:06 PM
Mark, with the quality and value of your cars, you need one of Charleys guard dogs.. Great topic, curious what Charley and Supercars recommends.
hvychev
10-24-2004, 07:33 PM
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What the hell are you doing back in Berwyn ??? Stop in at Lalo's for a great Mexican meal !
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I was THERE last night!! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
NCGuy68
10-24-2004, 07:48 PM
Police departments throughout the country consistently report that a barking dog is the best deterrent to residental theft. Even the 'Pros' don't want to deal with a Pit Bull with a bad attitude toward strangers.
My 'Puppy' stays in or around my garage at night or when no one is home.
Charley Lillard
10-24-2004, 09:30 PM
I'll rent you one of my dogs. Heck, I'll rent you all 4 of my dogs. Heck, I'll just mail them to you in a airtight box. I use the local alarm company with motion detectors, door switches etc.
Charleys dogs make this one look Large....
http://mommadog.homestead.com/files/vet_pettingdoggy_md_clr.gif
I have 6 German Shepards. The property is all fenced. 4 of the dogs have free run of the place.The outside dogs have an addition off the main garage that has a bunk bed, heat, and air conditioning piped to it. 2 pretty much live in the house. Most people will not even attemt to come in the gate, even with me standing there telling them its OK. A pack of Shepards makes for a real good deterent. Also have an alarm that has motion detectors, heat sensors, and switchs on all the doors and windows. The alarm is hooked to a siren that sounds like a cop car. Battery backup on the system, and the main panel is hidden.
Stuart Adams
10-25-2004, 06:22 AM
Mark, you could give the cars to me and I will keep them safe, I promise!!!! Seriously, with all the cars stolen these days, it is a real concern. Good Luck with it.
mhassett
10-25-2004, 06:40 AM
Stuart, there is a "Very Big Reason for Concern"--the two guys were released from the jail YESTERDAY--
THANK You for Your Concern,
Mark
AutoInsane
10-25-2004, 07:06 AM
Have you looked into the sprinkler or fire suppression system?
mister_copo
11-04-2005, 09:46 PM
Interesting thread. I have always had great security on my buildings and I have a security specialist that I use to handle all of my needs. My new toy shack is 8,000 Square Feet and is climate controlled. It is directly behind my new home and combines the following security devices to protect my investments and my home.
All perimeter doors are 18 Gauge Lead Lined and house Medeco High Security Locks with restricted keys. They also include Folger Adams Electric Strikes, RCI Mag Locks, and a complete 36 bit Card Access Control Systems to gain entry through these high security doors. Once in, you have to disarm the alarm system that includes, Dual Tech PIR Detectors throughout, Photo beams Sensors at all overhead doors, Sentrol Door Contacts, Shock Sensors along all exterior walls, and then a DVAC Telephone line which polls the signal every 30 Seconds to ensure it has not been cut. On top of that, I have indoor outdoor strobes, 30 watt Sirens, a Cellular Backup Device, and a full compliment of Heat, Smoke and CO2 detectors to advise me if there are any other problems.
I also had my security guy install a Honeywell 32 Channel Digital Video Recorder with 24 Day/Night Cameras. The outer perimeter sports 22x Zoom PTZ Cameras capable of Day/Night viewing with Extreme CCTV Infra Red Flood Lights to ensure I can see everything in the dead of night. The inside of the building is equipped with cameras that also record in IR mode for extreme low light recording. I can log on remotely and view any of the cameras from anywhere in the world and can show freinds my car collection right from my laptop with enough detail to floor them.
Needless to say, my cars and my home are very well protected, and I also have 2 Belgian Malenois dogs that patrol the property. If any of you ever need advice on setting up real security, let me know and I will hook you up with the man that provides my security. He has secured many oil and gas executives homes and also builds safe rooms, bomb proof rooms and man traps. My new home has both of these options built in, and the system for the house has 247 alarm points securing the 16000 square foot estate. I also had him provide gate access and driveway sensors at the bottom of the hill where I am alerted of any guest or visitors before they approach the security gate. This is all piped back to the house along with 2 camera shots that provide me with 360 degree views.
Some say that I am a security nut, but in all reality, I like my toys and I love my privacy too. I had someone threaten my life over an oil contract 10 years ago and have had this type of protection ever since.
Tom
SamLBInj
11-04-2005, 10:15 PM
I did it a lot cheaper and more effective, I just blew the first intruders head off with my 357 magnum and posted his brain spattered pictures around the house and yard with a little slogan that says "Who's Next?". http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif
BARN FIND
11-05-2005, 02:53 AM
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I did it a lot cheaper and more effective, I just blew the first intruders head off with my 357 magnum and posted his brain spattered pictures around the house and yard with a little slogan that says "Who's Next?". http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif
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LOL...all I can say is AMEN!!!
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