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Belair62
12-13-2004, 06:19 AM
1969 Z11: Indianapolis 500 Pace Car Camaro SS/RS

Total production: 3,675 units:

This particular Z11 Pace Car is unique in that it was produced for use as a highly optioned display vehicle for the Chevrolet Washington D.C. Zone Office. It was built during the first week of Z11 production (the 4th week of February, 1969) and delivered directly to the Washington D.C. Chevrolet Zone Office, where it was used as a public relations vehicle. It was rotated as a display car at local dealerships in the Maryland/Virginia/Washington D.C. area between March and August of 1969. It was also used as an executive car by the Washington D.C. Zone Office at the Indy 500 event in May of 1969.

Original options include:

Air Conditioning, Power Windows, Deluxe Front and Rear Seat Belts, Front Shoulder Harnesses, Rear Shoulder Harnesses, Power Convertible Top, Visor Vanity Mirror, Console, Spoiler Package, 3.07 positraction axle ratio, Power Disc Brakes, 350/300 Horsepower Engine, Turbo 350 Automatic Transmission, Tilt Column, Quick Ratio Power Steering, Sport Steering Wheel, Speed Warning Speedometer, Tachometer, Special Instrumentation with Clock, Vigilite Light Monitoring System, AM/FM Four-Speaker Stereo, Front and Rear Bumper Guards and Cowl Induction Hood.

This car is one of the most highly optioned Z11’s ever produced. It also has some of the rarest options, such as the convertible front and rear shoulder harnesses, the Vigilite fiber optic light monitoring system (mounted on front fenders and on the rear seat back), power windows, speed-warning speedometer, AM-FM stereo “blue light” radio and air conditioning. One of the more interesting features is the rear shoulder harness option, which if properly used, resulted in the strangling of the rear seat passengers. It seems that Chevrolet, in their infinite wisdom routed the harnesses from inside the trunk, behind the convertible top, under the top well. If a person is wearing the harnesses while the top is up there is no problem. But if you are wearing the harness while the top is being lowered, a full twelve inches of belt is pulled back under the top well as the convertible top folds up and stows down in the well. Ouch! No wonder they only made 37 cars with that option!

The first “civilian” owner of this Pace Car, Louis Gonzalez, saw it when it was displayed at Bob Peck Chevrolet, 800 North Glebe Road, Arlington, Virginia in May of 1969. Mr. Gonzalez convinced a salesman at the dealership, Giovanni Mariggio to take a $700 deposit on the car. Mr. Mariggio accepted the deposit but told Mr. Gonzalez that he could not take delivery for several weeks, as the Z11 was a display car and had to finish its promotional tour before going on to the Indy 500 event in May 1969. To make sure that no one else tried to purchase it out from under him, Mr. Gonzalez then “stalked” the car as it was displayed at dealer after dealer during the ensuing weeks. Twelve weeks later on August 18, 1969, he finally took delivery of the “used” Z11 with 4,500 miles on the odometer. Mr. Gonzalez paid the full sticker price: $5,281. Bob Peck Chevrolet has been in business for over 60 years and the original sales invoice was located in their records in the Fall of 2003. Mr. Gonzalez still lives in the D.C. area and supplied numerous original photos of the car. Mr. Gonzalez was able to verify the extensive option list on the car through a wide variety of photographs he had taken between 1969 and 1978, including a photo of his wife and newborn daughter being driven home from the hospital, in the car in 1972.

All the drivetrain components on this car are original: engine, carburetor, distributor, alternator, starter, rear differential, radiator, etc. In 35 years nothing has been replaced, with the exception of the transmission, which was replaced under the 5/50 warranty in the Summer of 1970 and the cylinder heads, which were replaced under the 5/50 warranty in the Summer of 1972.

At the time of his purchase, Mr. Gonzalez also purchased a second Z11 Pace Car from Bob Peck Chevrolet, VIN 124679N638573. A friend of Mr. Gonzalez could not find a cosigner due to his age at the time, so Mr. Gonzalez purchased the car for him, as a straw purchaser. The friend paid Mr. Gonzalez several payments and then wrecked the car. The “friend” then abandoned it in front of Mr. Gonzalez’ house, never to be heard from again. Mr. Gonzalez turned that Z11 over to the bank and paid off the remainder of the outstanding loan balance. (Note: NJSteve has the original invoice to that car: if you have the car, contact him and you can have the invoice)

NJSteve’s first car at age 14 was a Z11 equipped with a 350 and a four-speed, which he owned from 1977 to 1980. He began searching for a suitable replacement Z11 in September 2001. After looking at numerous unsuitable candidates, he located this Z11 in Rome, New York in November 2001. He purchased the Z11 and immediately began the preparation for its restoration. He began researching the history of the car through various databases and motor vehicle agencies. During the restoration, the Z11 was completely disassembled, down to the bare body shell. The subframe was removed and the drivetrain, interior and exterior were refurbished. NJSteve performed all of the restoration work himself with the exception of the body and paintwork, which were performed by PRC Restorations in Bridgewater, New Jersey. At the 2004 Camaro Nationals at Carlisle, the car was judged for the 1000 point Bowtie Class, where it achieved a Gold certificate with 963/1000 points. It was also recently used as the feature car for the Camaro Buyers Guide in the October issue of the Hemmings Muscle Machines, on pages 60 to 64.
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camarojoe
12-13-2004, 06:46 AM
http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gifNeat car... I've always liked the 69 pacecars... i like the old Bob Peck ad too... neat stuff. Got one of these? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Belair62
12-13-2004, 07:04 AM
Is that for changing plugs ?? You are a sickie Joe...Steve...that young lady must have enjoyed driving that car...

camarojoe
12-13-2004, 07:13 AM
No, its for taking your potroast out of the oven... but the plug changing idea sounds better.... http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

hvychev
12-13-2004, 07:15 AM
Steve I am not a huge fan of pacers but this one for sure catches my attention! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Mr70
12-13-2004, 07:22 AM
A Beautiful Camaro Steve.It shows very well. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Would somebody buy that Potholder from CJoe,so we don't have to see it on Ebay anymore. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

hvychev
12-13-2004, 07:40 AM
wrong pot holder Dickey...

DarrenX33
12-13-2004, 08:44 AM
Cool history on this pace car. I do love hearing these stories behind the cars. Excellent restoration work Steve. Awesome! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/worship.gif

GM-26
12-13-2004, 04:23 PM
And the Camaro wears "Indy 500" tires! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif
Exceptional car! Steve must get a crowd around the car when he parks it.

Jeff H
12-13-2004, 09:24 PM
I'm not an expert on the SS350 cars but I'm surprised it doesn't have the Z28 style valve covers. I thought that was part of a dress up package and this car has a lot of options as a display car so I thought it would have them. Nice car Steve.

TimG
12-13-2004, 11:30 PM
Nice car, Steve. I still have the window sticker, POP and build sheet on my '69 pace car #640491

1967Z28
12-13-2004, 11:56 PM
Great story, Steve. Gotta love the car being "stalked". Super nice job on the resto. I love the rare seatbelt package.

-Jon

TDW
12-14-2004, 02:44 AM
Very nice car Steve. Looks brand new. Has the original owner seen the car lately?

njsteve
12-14-2004, 03:33 AM
The 350/300 engines never had the aluminum valve covers from the factory. Stamped steel only, though a lot of people put the Z28 valve covers on for looks.

njsteve
12-14-2004, 03:39 AM
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http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gifNeat car... I've always liked the 69 pacecars... i like the old Bob Peck ad too... neat stuff. Got one of these? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Where on earth did you find that??? I'll trade you an original Bob Peck key fob for it.
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One more thing. While searching in Bob Peck's paperwork archives back in 2003 I came across the original invoice for the sale of a 1969 Chevy Kingswood wagon to William Rhenquist...the guy who went on to become the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. He was probably just a lowly lawyer back then in need of family transportation. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

njsteve
12-14-2004, 03:42 AM
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Very nice car Steve. Looks brand new. Has the original owner seen the car lately?

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I've been keeping in touch with him and sending him updated photos. His daughter never forgave him for selling it. She's thrilled it's back in their life again, even though it has a new caretaker.

DarrenX33
12-14-2004, 04:02 AM
Steve is the dealer decal on the bumper a copy or original. I have an original from my dealer it is near exact. Also, is that the original location for the decal?

njsteve
12-14-2004, 04:16 AM
That's an original decal. The dealership is in something of a time warp. They still use the same decals and keyfobs from the 1960s. Here is a postcard from 1964 showing the dealership. It is the exact same today with the exception that it is now surrounding by tall office buildings.

DarrenX33
12-14-2004, 04:22 AM
Excellent design! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

njsteve
12-14-2004, 04:24 AM
Here's another original photo from early 1970. Very interesting indeed. At the Camaro Nationals in 2004 I was docked 10 points in the 1000 point class for what they considered to be improper widths on the pinstripes that surround the racing stripes. They thought the pinstripe and the gap should be the same width. (You cant argue with judges) After the show I emailed them the original factory blueprints that we used to paint the stripes. These are the schematics in the 1969 assembly manual. They document a different width for the stripe and the gap. The judges said that the original cars they have inspected had the same width. Well, here is my car in 1970 with its original paint and even from 50 feet away you can tell that the gap is wider than the pinstripe. The judging staff is supposedly trying to iron out the issue in time for the 2005 show.

njsteve
12-14-2004, 04:27 AM
Sorry, that photo was Jan 71. But you get the point. According to the original owner the car was never repainted until 1977. Here is a shot of the original owner picking up his wife and newborn daughter from the hospital in 1972.

njsteve
12-14-2004, 04:27 AM
And here is the new bundle of joy on the way home.

Belair62
12-14-2004, 04:51 AM
The look on that new Moms face is priceless !!! These Member Features are so cool ! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Mr70
12-14-2004, 05:22 AM
Very Cool pix Steve. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
That girl leaning against that pillar is about to burst out of those Purple pants!
Ya who's Idea was the members rides section anyway?

firstgenaddict
12-14-2004, 05:26 PM
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Very Cool pix Steve. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
That girl leaning against that pillar is about to burst out of those Purple pants!
Ya who's Idea was the members rides section anyway?

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10 Lbs of sugar in a 5 lb bag!

JChlupsa
12-14-2004, 08:12 PM
Now that makes for a neat First car ride story when the little one gets older. Wait the baby is already there!!!

Neat car and great pics of it then and now. Enjoy and hope you have many sunny days driving ahead of you.

L72COPO
12-16-2004, 01:44 AM
Steve, congratulations on owning a great car.

Don Stowers

Bill Pritchard
12-16-2004, 02:01 AM
Beautiful car and incredible stories behind it, Steve. Love those vintage pics http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

And what on earth makes you think you can prove Show Judges to be wrong just because you have original photos and factory documentation http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif We all know the judges are the Ultimate Truth http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

njsteve
12-16-2004, 03:36 AM
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And what on earth makes you think you can prove Show Judges to be wrong just because you have original photos and factory documentation http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif We all know the judges are the Ultimate Truth http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

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I even told them I have the original owner, his wife and daughter standing by to testify to the facts, but they still wouldn't believe it. Kind of bizarre, coming from the legal world as I do: http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scholar.gifIn a courtroom the factory blueprints, i.e business records, would trump anyone's personal observations when it comes to how much weight an item of evidence is given. I guess I'm just living in the Bizarro World again.

Steve Shauger
12-16-2004, 06:36 AM
Easy does it regarding the judges. Although I did not judge your car (I judge Vintage/Survivor class) I did respond to your request for my oppinion. My opinion is base on seven original paint cars which I have owned and/or certified. The original cars are the benchmark for how cars should be restored (in my opinion). We all know the factory had variances in many of their processes. The same can be said for their documentation. I standby my findings that your stripe dimensions are not what is typically found. There are several stencil manufacturers that replicate stripes to what I have found. I understand your frustration and you raise good points, and they should be debated. Also remember all the judges volunteer their time and do it for the fun and love of the hobbie. BTW your looks awesome and is truly one of a kind.

Steve Shauger
Vintage Camaro

budnate
12-16-2004, 08:02 AM
paceme,
dont take offense but let me get this straight..Steve has photo's showing how his strips were applied at the factory..he put them back exactly as they were from new and you are saying they should be altered from that to a standard set by ????? I would agree with you if he had no doc's to back up his claim.....the cars were all not built perfect back then and had there own personalities...all the survivor cars I have seen look like the stuff we buy new today...horrible sheet metal alignment, over spray...no paint on items etc...I worry we are ending up with cookie cutter cars today looking for that perfect score at all costs...

Steve Shauger
12-16-2004, 01:59 PM
At the time the photos were not presented, I believe Steve aquired them at a later date. They represent good evidence , and should be presented to the judges involved. As far as I know the painter(Rich) used the assembly manual (makes sense) to lay the stripes out, and as I stated previously that is not always accurate. My question would be, has Steve presented his new information(pics)to the judging commitee ?? Again I stated before he has good points and this new information should be considered (I have no input with that group).

My post was more directed with the previous by Bill Pritchard "We all know the judges are the Ultimate Truth http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" . He took a shot at the judges I feel is uncalled for. The ACA and Camaros@ Carlisle have in my opinion the most comprehensive judging programs available. A lot of time and dedication goes into judging each class. My class we average 4 hrs a car and try to provide owners with a fair objective assement of their car.

TimG
12-16-2004, 05:20 PM
It's important to remember that the deduction on the stripes was probably very minor in relation to a total score. I've had low mile cars judged with what were definitely factory flaws and seen points taken off for these flaws. Both the judges and I knew these issues were on the car from its birth, but the judges look for typical factory production. This means that an 8,000 mile automatic Corvette with a carb coded for a manual transmission will be docked points even if the carb has the correct date and apparently was installed at the factory.
It also means that a big glob of bonding adhesive on the fender of an 18,000 mile car receives a deduction even though it was done at the factory and should have been cleaned up. These deductions won't make or break a car, especially a very nice car like this Pace Car. Most judges will do the best they can and revise the definitions as time goes on. In five years, other original cars may verify this stripe set up and the judges will allow this variance.

njsteve
12-16-2004, 05:35 PM
At the time of the judging I didnt think to bring the assembly manual with me, but I had the original photos and showed them to anyone who wanted to see them. I just didnt want to be a "stagemother" by hanging around the judges and debating the issue with them. Having judged Mopars in the past I know how much grief it can be! These guys and gals are volunteers and deserve all the cudos I can give them. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

Also, I didn't learn what the deduction was until I received the scoresheet later. The judging staff were extremely helpful in identifying the small things that were downright incorrect with the car (that I didnt even know about) like the muffler clamps, dist cap, air filter, horn brackets and horn relay (which were later corrected with parts hunting at Carlisle). I may bring it back next Summer with the items corrected (other than stripes) and see how it does. Thanks again

Verne_Frantz
12-17-2004, 10:17 PM
Very nice car Steve http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
I'm delighted to see you restored the car as it was originally built. Afterall, isn't that what "restored" means?

Your "trophy" is the car itself.

Verne

ssl78
12-18-2004, 04:49 AM
Steve, very nice car hopefully some day mine might look something like that. I have a set of fenders and trunk lid taken off a Pace car about 30 years ago they are still original paint. Here is a picture of the stripes on the deck lid.

njsteve
12-18-2004, 05:07 PM
Do my eyes deceive me or are those pintstripes narrower than the white gap? BTW, do you still have the L78 Pace Car that was sold new in my town?

ssl78
12-18-2004, 05:56 PM
Yes, I still have the L78 pace car. I havent decided what to do with it yet since I have to sell one of my other cars in order to restore it. It is a hard choice and one I have been really thinking about.

Mr70
12-18-2004, 06:45 PM
John
I still think you should show that L78 Pacecar as it is,at carshows like Vettefest,Colinsville & such.
It's REAL WORLD rough,not OWNER ABUSED rough. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif
Rick

ssl78
12-18-2004, 07:13 PM
Rick, How about I start with local cruise night and car shows next year. I really should have drove it more last year.

67chevy
12-18-2004, 10:13 PM
Here are some pics of a Pace car I looked at a few weeks ago. I know nothing about the car but it looks like the gap is wider than the stripe on it.

67chevy
12-18-2004, 10:14 PM
Another...

Mark_C
12-19-2004, 12:13 AM
Here's mine with its original paint way back in 84 when I bought it.

njsteve
01-28-2005, 07:07 AM
In case anyone is interested, the car just came out in the March 05 issue of Musclecar Enthusiast. Though I cant seem to find a copy and my subscription doesnt seem to be arriving on time. I think the mailman is reading my magazines again.

http://www.musclecarenthusiast.com/

JoeG
01-31-2005, 12:20 PM
Very http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif car/info--------------