Vintage pics. More extended Z stripes!

[DarrenX33]

I just moved into a new house. When I moved the Z in my neighbor immediately ran over to check the car out. Turns out he had one himself as well as other cool cars. Here is a sample of some of the pictures he dug up. Imagine my surprise to see the tail shot of this Z. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

circa 1974

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/darren_costello/135-3503_IMG.jpg

[DarrenX33]

His friend also had a Z. Here is a picture of the car from 1973.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/darren_costello/135-3508_IMG.jpg

[budnate]

thats great nothing better than a car guy right next door...if he has some small kids it even better http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif

[427TJ]

Looks like the red one had "flower" mags (American 200S).
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[DarrenX33]

Yep 200s alright. I have more pictures that I will be posting shortly.

[Salvatore]

Well get em posted! http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/headbang.gif Come on!

[Supercar_Kid]

What's the story on the tailpan stripes of the Garnet Red Z/28? Owner added? Also, looks like the Glacier Blue Z has the grille blacked out. Silver headlight buckets on a black grille. Looks like the owner didn't pay any attention to where the Z/28 emblem was when he removed it either. Stuck it back on in the wrong place. Can't see a chin spolier either, maybe the deck was added. Looks like possibly new tires too, which makes sense on a 3 year old car. A cool example of how many of these cars looked in the early 70's. You're lucky to have Camaro guys nextdoor.

[camarojoe]

Does the blue car have a flat hood? Hard to tell on my crappy monitor... For some reason I like those non ZL2 cars better...

[Mr70]

Are these pix from The ATV girls' House?

[Salvatore]

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Does the blue car have a flat hood? Hard to tell on my crappy monitor... For some reason I like those non ZL2 cars better...

[/ QUOTE ]Looks like a flat hood. I actually like them better myself. Sam

[Rick H]

Here's a picture of an original paint Z/28 we sold recently. Was in a barn for many, many, many years. X33D80 built 08A car with flat hood. Azure Turquiose. Love the extended strips.

http://home.rochester.rr.com/drhoff/images1/z01.jpg

Rick

[DarrenX33]

Rick he is across the street from the ATV girl. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I am going to say that those were owner added. I was told that the previous owner of this car road raced it. It had sidepipes prior to my neighbor owning it. Also, a front end shot show that the stripes continue onto the grille.

About the blue car. My neighbor and his friend were cruising in it and his friend hit a guard rail. That will explain the grille color. I told my neighbor about the site hopefully he will chime in soon.

Here is a front end shot.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/darren_costello/135-3531_IMG.jpg

[DarrenX33]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v370/darren_costello/135-3532_IMG.jpg

[hvychev]

Darren I posted this pic a while back.

My father took this picture in the spring/summer of 1969 in Brookfield, IL You can clearly see the extended stripes on this car.

The interesting thing is that this car still has the original factory tires less the derby caps. Also note the shackles. I would doubt someone would extend the stripes before even swapping the rims and tires? Factory or not??? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[55chevy]

So maybe that was a dealer thing??? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[camarojoe]

Coulda been a dealer thing, i can almost guarantee it wasnt factory, i cant imagine filling out an order form and writing "Please extend the stripes to the bottom of the tailpanel in the back" and having GM do it...It IS odd how many pics exist of cars painted this way though...

[DarrenX33]

Frank how could I forget that pic. I think that one started the extended stripe controversy. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

Well now what about the Carolina Blue Z that was recently on eBay. Wasn't that scheme claimed to be factory? http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif I do agree seems more like a dealer thing but who knows. We need to find an original owner.

Did Jim Mattison have anything info on this topic?

[hvychev]

Kurt S from crg....any input?

[Supercar_Kid]

While interesting and worthy of further research for sure, I still feel pretty confident that the "extended stripes" we're seeing even in these vintage pics are all examples of either dealer or more likely owner added paintwork. It is odd that so many vintage pics seem to be popping of Z/28s painted like this as of late, but these photos may simply support a theory that it was a popular modification and that a lot of Z/28s were subject to this stripe treatment back in the day. Let's not forget the 6 taillight treatment that was so popular on mid-year Corvettes, immortalized in the words of Jan & Dean's "Dead Man's Curve." Check out this link (http://www.67fso.com) for a vintage shot of some brand new '67s on Clippinger Chevrolet's lot complete with dealer added 6 tail light treatment. My point being, by the looks of this pic you'd think the 6 lights could have been a factory deal too, but they weren't, just a popular modification that some dealers would provide if the buyer demanded it. I also think that if the extended Z/28 stripes were any sort of a factory job, even by special request, there would have to be a stencil with a GM part # in some service manual or bulletin somewhere. Dealers would have been responsible for duplicating these stripes if a car was rearended, or needed the tailpan repainted for some reason or another. GM part numbered stencils exist for every other GM stripe application on a 69 Camaro, why not these? I guess until we find an unrestored original owner car with some paper, we'll just have to keep guessing. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

[Kurt S]

I agree that these are not factory mods.
Remember, they were producing them at 1 a minute. There wasn't time nor detailed instructions to handle anything like that. But it obviously was a popular mod.
Note that both 69's in this post were flat hood cars, no surprise. Real cowl hood cars are relatively rare.

[Rick H]

Kurt,
Going with the most likely assumption that the extended stripes were added later could it be possible they were added at the factory after all? When painting the stripes at the factory how much longer would it take to extend them to the bottom of the tail panel?
It doesn't look like a whole lot of masking and taping was involved.
Was there a racing series or other automotive event happening back then that would prompt GM to offer this type of stripes on the cars?

I am just curious. I heard that the Carolina Blue car's extended stripes were factory added as well.

Just an interested observation with these cars.

Rick

[Belair62]

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I also think that if the extended Z/28 stripes were any sort of a factory job, even by special request, there would have to be a stencil with a GM part # in some service manual or bulletin somewhere.

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This does make a lot of sense to me...

[Kurt S]

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Kurt,
Going with the most likely assumption that the extended stripes were added later could it be possible they were added at the factory after all? When painting the stripes at the factory how much longer would it take to extend them to the bottom of the tail panel?

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That first sentence didn't make a lot of sense. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
It's not a time issue, it's a processing issue. They'd have to be shot in the repair booth and there would have to be instructions more involved than 'make them longer'. No way, it didn't happen. Remember, 900 cars a day.....

The Colorado blue car stripes were dealer added.

[DarrenX33]

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The Colorado blue car stripes were dealer added.

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Thanks for clarifying that Kurt. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif

[Rick H]

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That first sentence didn't make a lot of sense. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif


The Colorado blue car stripes were dealer added.

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After reading it, it does sound wacky. I was tired when I posted. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif

Rick H.

[Salvatore]

I am just glad to see that the little Zap/28 is starting to get some ink for a change. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggthumpup.gif http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif